According to some sources it looks like the ESPN programming currently on 1600 could move to Jack FM's spot at 105.5 and KEPN 1600 would be the new home of Fox Sports Radio. Also, Not sure what would happen with The Fan Currently carrying Fox Sports Radio but they do carry Mike & Mike in the morning and all I know at this point The Fan will need to find a new morning show.
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This Just In ESPN moving from 1600 to 105.5???
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JeeperOne
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ESPN will never survive at 105.5. Those of you in Dallas think 103.3 is bad, you ain't heard 105.5. That's because YOU CANNOT hear it in MANY parts of Denver.
However though, if this is true, then AM 1600 will likely either become a news talker or go silent (Most likely the latter since Salem KBJM 1650 to Spanish Religion not too long ago & KCKK 1510 could use the extra room to increase power even if it's just by a little bit).
Just my opinion.....
Cheers
However though, if this is true, then AM 1600 will likely either become a news talker or go silent (Most likely the latter since Salem KBJM 1650 to Spanish Religion not too long ago & KCKK 1510 could use the extra room to increase power even if it's just by a little bit).
Just my opinion.....
Cheers
If an AM station adds an FM simulcast that doesn't cover the entire market (as 105.5 doesn't), they often keep the AM station broadcasting the same programming as well, to fill in the holes in the coverage .
I doubt they'd just turn the AM station off. Even with AM's sagging listenership, you still can do something with a decent AM signal in a large market like Denver. Maybe it would be brokered ethnic programming, maybe it would be sold to a non-profit broadcaster. Several Catholic groups have lately been buying AM stations in large markets to air their programming, be it EWTN, Sacred Heart or one of the others. One Catholic group just bought TWO AM stations in the Dallas market, one for its English-language programming, one for Spanish.
Gregg
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I doubt they'd just turn the AM station off. Even with AM's sagging listenership, you still can do something with a decent AM signal in a large market like Denver. Maybe it would be brokered ethnic programming, maybe it would be sold to a non-profit broadcaster. Several Catholic groups have lately been buying AM stations in large markets to air their programming, be it EWTN, Sacred Heart or one of the others. One Catholic group just bought TWO AM stations in the Dallas market, one for its English-language programming, one for Spanish.
Gregg
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JeeperOne
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One problem. KEPN-AM 1600 is owned by Lincoln Financial Media whereas 105.5 is a puny little JOKE FM station with a TXer way up in the boondies of Tinmath, CO & IS NOT owned by Lincoln Financial Media.Gregg said:
Please get your facts straight before posting something like this. Otherwise, you just look bad & totally idiotic
Cheers
Pat Cook said:
Doesn't matter. ESPN only has to give an affiliate 90 days notice before canceling them.
This rumor was based on an employee of Front Range Sports Network registering the website 1055espn.com. In the last 2-3 weeks, the same employee has also registered several websites indicating ESPN could move to 102.3 instead of 105.5. None of that necessarily means a format change will be happening at either station. It could simply be someone at Front Range Sports trying to put a scare into the people at LFM or wishful thinking about the future.
JeeperOne
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But what Gregg was saying was this.....Kent said:
Since KEPN-AM 1600 is owned by Lincoln Financial Media, that would mean that Front Range Sports Network (Or anyone else for that matter) WOULD HAVE TO BUY KEPN-AM in order to simulcast it on one of their own FM sticks (Be it 102.3, 105.5 or whatever)Gregg said:
Now 104.3 OTOH is in the clear on this because it's also owned by Lincoln Financial Media. As such, KKFN can pick up stuff from ESPN Radio whenever they want.
Don't you know when you've been PUNKED?? I mean, look at the source of the rumor - AN EMPLOYEE!!! For all we know, THE JANITOR COULD HAVE IT (Thinking back the old KBPI ads of the 1980s)
Right now, that's all it is. Remember the issue surrounding 87.7 Mhz. hasn't been completely settled yet.
Cheers
Whatever the case, it looks like the other shoe is about to drop. The PD at KKFN has registered several domains, including FoxSports950.com, that indicate 950 will be switching to sports. He's also registered CruisinOldies1600.com and CruisinOldies1031.com.
That looks like pretty good confirmation that LFM is indeed losing ESPN with CruisinOldies going to 1600 and keeping the simulcast on the 103.1 translator. Given previous registrations, it seems plausible that Front Range Sports is getting ESPN and will be putting it on 102.3 and/or 105.5.
That looks like pretty good confirmation that LFM is indeed losing ESPN with CruisinOldies going to 1600 and keeping the simulcast on the 103.1 translator. Given previous registrations, it seems plausible that Front Range Sports is getting ESPN and will be putting it on 102.3 and/or 105.5.
JeeperOne
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This will only happen if 104.3 is switched back to Smooth Jazz/NACKent said:
And since the damage has been done, any attempt to gain an audience with that format would be an act of futility. 92.5 has a better chance of bringing back Jammin' Oldies or going Smooth Jazz/NAC itself (And getting an audience for either) than 104.3 does despite its powerful signal
And there's NO WAY KKFN is going back to 950 or giving up all their local shows on 104.3 to make way for ESPN Radio. Neither will happen
Just because they've registered domain names doesn't mean they're gonna make a move. Besides, usually when a station actually makes a move, it's BEFORE a domain name has been registered & a website is put up. This way, they have time to promote their new address on the air once the site is up and running. Makes no sense to promote the new site BEFORE the move. That's like putting the cart before the horse
Besides, 102.3 is still home to ESPN Desportes Radio. What happens to it should ESPN Radio move to 102.3?? Most logical place I can think of is 105.5 (Either without the 102.3 simulcast completely or on an HD sub of 102.3). I can't see 104.3 becoming the next 96.5 (Not with it having a FOR SALE sign in front of the studios)
Just my opinion.....
Cheers
Gregg said:
Yeah and look how badly 1570 is in.. They are asking the archdicese (ok I don't know how to spell that) to fork over (I believe) about 5 grand or so to keep them going. I think that is inconsiderate of them to ask that from them, since that organization is struggling to keep priests in churches. They can buy up AM's but it well never last.
Pat Cook said:
You misread me. The rumor isn't that 104.3 changes formats. It is expected to stay sports. It just looks like LFM is swapping ESPN for Fox on the AM, and the two AM formats swap signals.
Agree in part, disagree in part. You're right that registering domains doesn't guarantee a move. However, most stations start reserving domains BEFORE the stations change. If you believe stations don't register domains until after they sign on, you haven't followed the scoops on format changes all over the internet. You can easily find such instances not just on this site but all over Twitter. Besides, in this case, if LFM is really about to lose ESPN, the competition already knows it. What's there to hide?
JeeperOne
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Well let's take a look at the stations you mentioned.....WRIKER said:
AM 1410 - Umm.....Isn't it now KGNU-AM 1390 (And a Latin station before that?)
KLZ-AM 560 - It's owner is Crawford Broadcasting. Not exactly sports friendly (In fact, Crawford isn't even run by REAL radio people, unlike its chief competitor Salem Broadcasting who DOES have radio people running the outfit)
Why get rid of it? True the sports stations here are all mainly local personality driven with some sporting events. But that goes against what ESPN Radio stands for which is national personalities & live sporting events. And the reason why it hasn't worked here so far because we didn't have the infrastructure for local personality driven sports stations in place like we do now.
Because we have this infrastructure in place now, there's no reason to think that ESPN Radio can't work here. If Front Range Sports doesn't snag it, here are some other places where it might go.....
92.5 - Owned by Wilkes & supporting a format with a long history of failure (Country Music)
99.5 - Owned by Entercomm & supporting a format that competes directly with EVERY Clear Channel FM stick in town with the possible exception of KBPI
100.3 - Owned by Wilkes & supporting a format which appears to drifting between a cross between Party 95.7 & Alice 105.9 (And sounding AWFUL in the process)
107.5 - Also owned by Lincoln Financial & supporting a format which isn't impressing anybody these days
With ESPN being on the signals of 99.5, 100.3 & 107.5 (And maybe 92.5, albeit to a lesser extent), it would be a force to be reckoned with. Ditto if it were on 102.3 (Which is where it'd likely go in the end)
Just my opinion.....
Cheers
Pat Cook said:Well let's take a look at the stations you mentioned.....WRIKER said:
AM 1410 - Umm.....Isn't it now KGNU-AM 1390 (And a Latin station before that?)
KLZ-AM 560 - It's owner is Crawford Broadcasting. Not exactly sports friendly (In fact, Crawford isn't even run by REAL radio people, unlike its chief competitor Salem Broadcasting who DOES have radio people running the outfit)
Why get rid of it? True the sports stations here are all mainly local personality driven with some sporting events. But that goes against what ESPN Radio stands for which is national personalities & live sporting events. And the reason why it hasn't worked here so far because we didn't have the infrastructure for local personality driven sports stations in place like we do now.
Because we have this infrastructure in place now, there's no reason to think that ESPN Radio can't work here. If Front Range Sports doesn't snag it, here are some other places where it might go.....
92.5 - Owned by Wilkes & supporting a format with a long history of failure (Country Music)
99.5 - Owned by Entercomm & supporting a format that competes directly with EVERY Clear Channel FM stick in town with the possible exception of KBPI
100.3 - Owned by Wilkes & supporting a format which appears to drifting between a cross between Party 95.7 & Alice 105.9 (And sounding AWFUL in the process)
107.5 - Also owned by Lincoln Financial & supporting a format which isn't impressing anybody these days
With ESPN being on the signals of 99.5, 100.3 & 107.5 (And maybe 92.5, albeit to a lesser extent), it would be a force to be reckoned with. Ditto if it were on 102.3 (Which is where it'd likely go in the end)
Just my opinion.....
Cheers
Where have you been? 1410 Is KIIX, they tired it as 1410 the X, and it failed on that one badly before it went to this format.
If talk didn;t work on FM what makes you ESPN would work on any of those signals? Colorado isn;t exactly a sports station state.
There proably is a reason no one has chosen to do sports on those frequencies before or ever. LFM did on 104.3 but that is the only one . Wonder why?
I don;t think they are going to do anything with those frequencies or with 950.
WRIKER said:
While there may be a greater audience demand for Cruisin' Oldies, a poorly rated sports station will bill more than an oldies station (meaning one centered in the 50's/60's) 100% of the time. ESPN doesn't do well, but it bills more than Cruisin' Oldies!
By the way, I do think LFM is more concerned with running Crusin' Oldies on that 250 watt translator than it is the AM signal. That translator also can't be upgraded to an actual radio station. FCC rules don't allow upgrading a translator or LPFM to a full-power stick. If LFM were, somehow, able to do something to get that potential move-in from Limon to go away, that frequency would have to be available to anyone at auction. LFM would have to bid just like everyone else and would probably be at a disadvantage since qualified minority entities and small businesses are afforded bidding credits larger companies just can't get. If they lost the auction, they'd still either lose their translator or have to find another frequency for it.
Kent said:
Will your right they can't upgrade the translator at all, but maybe they can apply for a full power one? So there is the other station in Limon, they well just be able to cover all of Denver and North to Fort Collins and to Greeley. Yeah oldies isn't that much of a money maker, but at least people are enjoying it alot! Even if your lucky to pick up the translator some how.. which as I read on their facebook page alot of people are not able to pick up the 250 Watt translator at all in some areas.
I doubt it if LFM would be dumb enough (as I mentioned before) to move oldies to a weaker signal to 1600 to where NO ONE Would be able to hear it! THeyt are not that dumb to do that and nor would they twant to do that at all. Or move ESPN to 950, they already converted the studio to be a music one. Just like KLZ can't be anything else either since (as I saw pictures) they redone the whole studio it doesn't look like it did in the old days. It is made for talk now and nothing else. People would be mad if LFM moved it anyways, they like 950 just the way it is.
Pat Cook said:
There is a country FM in 3rd position in billing in the market. How is country " a format with a history of failure?"
And 107.5 is around 7th or 8th in billings, hardly unimpressive.
Saying that the good people at Crawford are not "real broadcasters" is like saying the same about the folks who built HCJB in Quito into the world's most significant evangelical station. The objectives of non-commercial and religious stations are different, but the operators are no less professional.
According to the Denver Business Journal some sports swapping 87.7 and 102.3 will be taking one on Thursday March 31 2011 and 102.3 gets ESPN on Jan. 1 2012.
http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2011/03/27/espn.html
http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2011/03/27/espn.html
There's more Developments to this story this morning I was just on KCNC Channel 4's Gary Miller's twitter and he tweeted to someone that 105.5 would go to ESPN and 102.3 would be focused on local sports.
http://twitter.com/thegarymiller/status/52055918715740161
http://twitter.com/thegarymiller/status/52055918715740161
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