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Top two Music Stations in Boston ,...1)Jamn 94.5,......2)Kiss 108 . WBZ Number One Overall .
 
Yes, you're right! Amazingly, despite the new signal at 97.7, WAAF's ratings remain as flat as a pancake in Texas! None of the other rockers are burning up the ratings either.

Clearly (to me, at least) there are too many rock and rock-based formats in the market and not enough rhythmic ones. Clear Channel has done a good blocking job with Kiss and Jamn, but neither are standouts in their respective formats - they win by default. Boston needs a more urban formatted station.

Yet one other thing impresses me about the 12+ beauty contest (which can be indicative in a general way): Boston is not a very dynamic market. Very few big changes in the ratings over time. Even the perennial cellar dwellers (i.e. WBOS, WXRV, WFNX) always find reasons to justify their continued existence. And, that's unusual in other markets. Anywhere else and at least 2 of them would have been flipped long ago.

In other words, even though there is a yawning need for an urban formatted (FM) station in town - don't hold your breath. Perhaps PPM technology will shake things up in the next few years....
 
Looking up and down the ratings staircase from Spring 2006 to Spring 2007 (yes, these are projections):

WBZ - big winner, even without a standout AM abchor
Kiss - winner, in spite of playing only one half of top 40
Jam'n - loser, for losing listeners year to year in spite of another rhythmic/R&B station's demise
WEEI - winner, for having the same ratings from year to year (projected by me) in spite of losing the Red Sox, proving that racism and homophobia (via D&C and The Big O and his cohorts) do carry the day - uh, I mean week
WRKO - winner for its own racist and homophobic hosts Howie, Rush and Savage - oh, who's kidding who - it's the Red Sox!
Magic - loser, although its morhing into alt-rock Mix 98-5 may be slowing its demise
WKLB - winner, both in year-to-year signal increase (from 102.5's days as classical) and on its format's own merits
Oldies - loser, since dumping disco into the harbor (year-to-year basis) - bring back disco on a weekly basis!
WZLX - winner as Boston's #1 classic rock station (by a slim margin over #2 AND #3)
Mike - winner; slight improvement year-to-year; is Boston's #2 classic rocker
96-9 FM Talk - winner for simply not being slaughtered in the ratings after the A-Man (AKA the I-Man) got canned
WROR - big loser; after being #1 classic rocker for the last 2 years or so, it's down to #3 (a projected 0.2 rating behind 'ZLX and 0.1 behind Mike)
WCRB - big loser, especially in format; 'KLB had numbers equal to 'CRB's on the 99.5 signal - listeners followed 'KLB from 99.5 to 102.5 (and then some) as 'CRB listeners failed to do likewise
WAAFs - loser for failing to significantly increase its ratings after grabbing the 97.7 signal; just does beat out....
WBCN - winner; rock will live on 104.1 for at least another year; the same can't be said for....
Mix - big loser; time to flip to either urban or illegal alien format (like those that CBS operates in DC and Tampa Bay)
Easy - slight winner year-to-year; obviously there are people on the South Shore who hate hearing edgy artists like Kid Rock, Hoobastank, Bon Jovi, Nickelback, 3 Doors Down, Green Day and other nightmarish rockers on Magic, which may as well add AC/DC, Motley Crue and Godsmack
River - giant winner, especially since coverage is limited to the North Shore
WBOS (which comes closest to River in terms of playlists) - big loser; time to flip to whatever format the soon-to-be former Mix doesn't take

Those are projected to be the only stations which will reach a 1.0 or higher (sorry, Bob; you do run a great station though on 740 AM :D ). :)
 
BRNout said:
Yes, you're right! Amazingly, despite the new signal at 97.7, WAAF's ratings remain as flat as a pancake in Texas! None of the other rockers are burning up the ratings either.

Clearly (to me, at least) there are too many rock and rock-based formats in the market and not enough rhythmic ones. Clear Channel has done a good blocking job with Kiss and Jamn, but neither are standouts in their respective formats - they win by default. Boston needs a more urban formatted station.

Yet one other thing impresses me about the 12+ beauty contest (which can be indicative in a general way): Boston is not a very dynamic market. Very few big changes in the ratings over time. Even the perennial cellar dwellers (i.e. WBOS, WXRV, WFNX) always find reasons to justify their continued existence. And, that's unusual in other markets. Anywhere else and at least 2 of them would have been flipped long ago.

In other words, even though there is a yawning need for an urban formatted (FM) station in town - don't hold your breath. Perhaps PPM technology will shake things up in the next few years....
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Yes , 97.7 signal does nothing for WAAF ( and 30 mil. does nothing for Radio One going out of Business sale. Boston,Minneapolis,Dayton and soon L.A. ) . Until there a another Rhythmic or Urban ( Urban A/c will be nice ) format in Boston , Jamn will always be the Number One Music station in Boston ( 94.5 only a avg. Hip Hop Station right now ). I heard a Rumor, that one of Clear channel AM signal might flip to Urban A/C ( WJMN-AM ? ) , but I will not hold my breath on that.
 
Steve N. said:
Looking up and down the ratings staircase from Spring 2006 to Spring 2007 (yes, these are projections):

WEEI - winner, for having the same ratings from year to year (projected by me) in spite of losing the Red Sox, proving that racism and homophobia (via D&C and The Big O and his cohorts) do carry the day - uh, I mean week
WRKO - winner for its own racist and homophobic hosts Howie, Rush and Savage - oh, who's kidding who - it's the Red Sox!
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Snore. You're such a one note Johnny. Opinions you don't agree with aren't necessarily racist or homophobic.

I'd like to see some valid examples of your assertions.
 
I think Kiss and Jamn are both empty excuses for a real top 40 station.

94.5 seems to play ONLY RAP to the exclusion of REAL RnB.

Kiss? Every other track is by Justin Timberlake.

A rhythm heavy Top 40 mainstream station could kick both their asses.
 
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