Why does Thunder Bay, a market with well over 100,000 people, only have five commercial radio stations?
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Thunder Bay, Ontario
- Thread starter saladdressing
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> Why does Thunder Bay, a market with well over 100,000
> people, only have five commercial radio stations?
>
The CRTC is VERY strict on what is classified as availibity on the radio dial.
More so than the American FCC. It's also alot tougher to get a licence too.<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
> people, only have five commercial radio stations?
>
The CRTC is VERY strict on what is classified as availibity on the radio dial.
More so than the American FCC. It's also alot tougher to get a licence too.<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
L
Lee_T
Guest
Sudbury, Ontario has a population of over 155,000 with
5 commercial radio stations:
Rogers Radio:
AM:
790 CIGM Country & Western, also airs news during the
day with full-time sports at nights.
FM:
92.7 CJRQ Rock
105.3 CJMX EZ Rock
NewCap Broadcasting:
FM:
103.9 CHNO CHR/Top 40
Haliburton Broadcasting:
98.9 CHYC French AC
Sudbury at current date has 7 non-commercial radio stations
so this brings the total amount of radio stations in the
Sudbury market to 12, there is also one out of market commercial
radio station out of Elliot Lake, Ontario serving Algoma/Manitoulin
which is called CKNR FM 94.1 The Moose owned by Haliburton, but heard
in the Western areas of Greater Sudbury.
Do you think the Sudbury Market can have another commercial radio
station or two in the future? Why does Sudbury with a population
of 155,000 have only one AM Radio station with so many FM radio
stations in Sudbury?
Take care and Happy Holidays!
From Lee.
> > Why does Thunder Bay, a market with well over 100,000
> > people, only have five commercial radio stations?
> >
> The CRTC is VERY strict on what is classified as availibity
> on the radio dial.
> More so than the American FCC. It's also alot tougher to get
> a licence too.
>
5 commercial radio stations:
Rogers Radio:
AM:
790 CIGM Country & Western, also airs news during the
day with full-time sports at nights.
FM:
92.7 CJRQ Rock
105.3 CJMX EZ Rock
NewCap Broadcasting:
FM:
103.9 CHNO CHR/Top 40
Haliburton Broadcasting:
98.9 CHYC French AC
Sudbury at current date has 7 non-commercial radio stations
so this brings the total amount of radio stations in the
Sudbury market to 12, there is also one out of market commercial
radio station out of Elliot Lake, Ontario serving Algoma/Manitoulin
which is called CKNR FM 94.1 The Moose owned by Haliburton, but heard
in the Western areas of Greater Sudbury.
Do you think the Sudbury Market can have another commercial radio
station or two in the future? Why does Sudbury with a population
of 155,000 have only one AM Radio station with so many FM radio
stations in Sudbury?
Take care and Happy Holidays!
From Lee.
> > Why does Thunder Bay, a market with well over 100,000
> > people, only have five commercial radio stations?
> >
> The CRTC is VERY strict on what is classified as availibity
> on the radio dial.
> More so than the American FCC. It's also alot tougher to get
> a licence too.
>
I
ian
Guest
> Why does Thunder Bay, a market with well over 100,000
> people, only have five commercial radio stations?
>
That's pretty typical in Canada.
> people, only have five commercial radio stations?
>
That's pretty typical in Canada.
J
JonEllis
Guest
> The CRTC is VERY strict on what is classified as availibity
> on the radio dial.
> More so than the American FCC. It's also alot tougher to get
> a licence too.
Not to mention that Dougall Media, owner of three radio stations and the city's only two commercial TV stations, has a history of fighting every effort to bring any new station to town. To read some of their comments to the CRTC about the supposed dire situation of the city, you'd think every media outlet would have gone out of business by now! For example, this from 2003: "C.J.S.D. and Newcap further stated that the recent launch of CJUK-FM and CFQK-FM have moved C.J.S.D and Newcap from a "marginally profitable to a significant deficit position" in the market."
So Thunder Bay residents are left with few choices, and currently, no full-time Country station.
The FCC just approved a new allotment for 96.9 in Grand Portage, MN, which could possibly be used as a Thunder Bay station. It'll probably go up for auction in a few years.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by JonEllis on 12/19/05 06:33 AM.</FONT></P>
> on the radio dial.
> More so than the American FCC. It's also alot tougher to get
> a licence too.
Not to mention that Dougall Media, owner of three radio stations and the city's only two commercial TV stations, has a history of fighting every effort to bring any new station to town. To read some of their comments to the CRTC about the supposed dire situation of the city, you'd think every media outlet would have gone out of business by now! For example, this from 2003: "C.J.S.D. and Newcap further stated that the recent launch of CJUK-FM and CFQK-FM have moved C.J.S.D and Newcap from a "marginally profitable to a significant deficit position" in the market."
So Thunder Bay residents are left with few choices, and currently, no full-time Country station.
The FCC just approved a new allotment for 96.9 in Grand Portage, MN, which could possibly be used as a Thunder Bay station. It'll probably go up for auction in a few years.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by JonEllis on 12/19/05 06:33 AM.</FONT></P>
So in other words, Canadians in these small to mid-sized cities would be well advised to get Satellite Radio. What a shock it must be to go from 5 commercial stations to 100+.
> So in other words, Canadians in these small to mid-sized
> cities would be well advised to get Satellite Radio. What a
> shock it must be to go from 5 commercial stations to 100+.
>
AND what a shock it must be to learn that, of those 80 XM stations or 100 Sirius stations NONE will care about local content.
(Canada still gets stuck with less stations than the states)<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
> cities would be well advised to get Satellite Radio. What a
> shock it must be to go from 5 commercial stations to 100+.
>
AND what a shock it must be to learn that, of those 80 XM stations or 100 Sirius stations NONE will care about local content.
(Canada still gets stuck with less stations than the states)<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
I
ian
Guest
> So in other words, Canadians in these small to mid-sized
> cities would be well advised to get Satellite Radio. What a
> shock it must be to go from 5 commercial stations to 100+.
>
5 commercial stations per 100,000 is propotionately a lot. That would work out to 50 commerical station per `1,000,000. Any more than 5, and the advertising dollars get spread so thin that the stations cannot afford any local content and community involvement and at that point the residents might as well go to satellite anyway.
> cities would be well advised to get Satellite Radio. What a
> shock it must be to go from 5 commercial stations to 100+.
>
5 commercial stations per 100,000 is propotionately a lot. That would work out to 50 commerical station per `1,000,000. Any more than 5, and the advertising dollars get spread so thin that the stations cannot afford any local content and community involvement and at that point the residents might as well go to satellite anyway.
Re: Satellite Radio
> > So in other words, Canadians in these small to mid-sized
> > cities would be well advised to get Satellite Radio. What
> a
> > shock it must be to go from 5 commercial stations to 100+.
>
> >
> AND what a shock it must be to learn that, of those 80 XM
> stations or 100 Sirius stations NONE will care about local
> content.
> (Canada still gets stuck with less stations than the states)
----------
And that is precisely why I have no use for satellite radio, and will never subscribe.<P ID="signature">______________
From WNBC-TV New York this is Liiiiive at Fiiiiive!</P>
> > So in other words, Canadians in these small to mid-sized
> > cities would be well advised to get Satellite Radio. What
> a
> > shock it must be to go from 5 commercial stations to 100+.
>
> >
> AND what a shock it must be to learn that, of those 80 XM
> stations or 100 Sirius stations NONE will care about local
> content.
> (Canada still gets stuck with less stations than the states)
----------
And that is precisely why I have no use for satellite radio, and will never subscribe.<P ID="signature">______________
From WNBC-TV New York this is Liiiiive at Fiiiiive!</P>
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