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Tiger's profanity-please stop it!
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I'd think he'd be a little more media-conscious than that, with all the endorsements he has. Is it loud, or are there enough mics around to pick up whispers?
I've never understood why sports teams that cover golf tournaments have to use mics at tees and cups. Surely we can tell from seeing the action that someone has swung at the ball or made a shot without the extra effects. Mics aren't used in baseball gloves or at the rim in basketball--viewers can tell than a ball's been caught or a goal's been made.
I've never understood why sports teams that cover golf tournaments have to use mics at tees and cups. Surely we can tell from seeing the action that someone has swung at the ball or made a shot without the extra effects. Mics aren't used in baseball gloves or at the rim in basketball--viewers can tell than a ball's been caught or a goal's been made.
I'm sure there are mics and I know Tiger gets a lot more exposure than the other golfers. There are about a half dozen swear words which I don't mind but using GDI, particularly on a Sunday, on network TV is not acceptable to me (and probably many others). But CBS isn't about to chastise him because they know where their bread (daily) is buttered.
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DaleGriffin
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GDI! Could you guys please post a list of what swears are acceptable and what days I may say them. I just want to know as to not offend.
Dale Jackson, we saw ALF in Alabama in the 1980s and it sucked then, too.
About the GDI thing, Tiger should NOT be allowed to say that on national TV. Delay is probably used - why are they letting him get away with it?
Just like when the camera zooms in on a college or NFL coach pacing the sidelines, saying the f-bomb for the world to see. So what? DON'T SHOW IT. It's cheaper than showing Janet Jackson's boobies on the Super Bowl.
About the GDI thing, Tiger should NOT be allowed to say that on national TV. Delay is probably used - why are they letting him get away with it?
Just like when the camera zooms in on a college or NFL coach pacing the sidelines, saying the f-bomb for the world to see. So what? DON'T SHOW IT. It's cheaper than showing Janet Jackson's boobies on the Super Bowl.
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toby
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The language and nudity restrictions on American broadcast television look totally absurd when compared to other western industrialised nations.
toby said:
I'm glad to be in America and very glad the kind of porn they show around the world isn't available on free over-the-air TV here.
I wish the rules here were a bit more strict about what can be shown on broadcast television. Tiger's comments today would have been front page news 20 years ago. Now we expect that kind of offensive comment and just don't care. That's sad.
vibe said:
Why? Any pro (in any sport) worth his championships will let out an epithet (that's "a word your momma won't like," for those of you in Rio Linda. ;D ) if he screws up. He's earning his living. We're along for the ride.
If you don't like it, you have a volume control on your TV, or you can complain to his or the tournament's sponsors (lotsa luck). Or, you could be an adult, deal with it, and tell your kids that they shouldn't use those words. Tiger Woods is not a role model to anyone except his own child.
Sports is about winning, not pleasing blue-noses that might get their panties in a bunch about something that most of us have said at one time or another in their lives (and DON'T say you haven't unless you've been living in a monastery your entire life). Don't like nasty words in sports? Don't watch. Period.
vibe said:
And you know what else? As an agnostic, I'm offended anytime an athlete thanks Jesus when they are successful. Why don't networks use the delay to bleep that? Especially on Wednesday!
*sarcasm mode off*
Come on. Keith said it best, there are volume controls and/or channel controls for a reason. If you don't like what you're seeing/hearing, turn the channel. If enough people agree with you the ratings will show it and that's when you will get results. For now it just seems as if you are picking nits...
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toby
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It is that sort of regressive close minded thinking that is part of the problem with this country and has elected officials worry about trivial nonsense which brings about all sorts of unneeded garbage like E/I programming and having the FCC become a morality police enforcing the will of a vocal few. There is nothing really wrong with the infamous seven dirty words and there is no reason they should be taboo, same way with sex and nudity. It is no wonder the western industrialised nations that have more freedoms on what to broadcast are more open and have more plurality.
I have to agree with Keith that any athlete worth
a championship is going to let out an occasional
curse word. Tiger demands so much from himself
that to think CBS or anyone else is going to keep
him from expressing his emotions when he makes
a bad shot is out of the question...indeed, about as
likely as stopping Jim Nantz and company from constantly
fawning over Tiger. I know. Tiger brings in the ratings,
but (a) anyone with eyes can see how good he is, and
(b) Tiger's wins aren't always blowouts--he won by two
shots yesterday. If anything, the story yesterday was
Ernie Els, looking like the Ernie who was Tiger's closest
challenger a few years back; or the emergence of Woody
Austin, who by finishing second moved himself onto the
President's Cup team. Personally, I thought both of them
were more exciting than Tiger, who was playing primarily
to protect his lead and not do something dumb that might
lead to a lot of bogeys. The most excitement Tiger brought
to the tournament was on Friday, when he would have set
a major-tournament scoring record if the ball hadn't lipped
out of the hole at 18.
a championship is going to let out an occasional
curse word. Tiger demands so much from himself
that to think CBS or anyone else is going to keep
him from expressing his emotions when he makes
a bad shot is out of the question...indeed, about as
likely as stopping Jim Nantz and company from constantly
fawning over Tiger. I know. Tiger brings in the ratings,
but (a) anyone with eyes can see how good he is, and
(b) Tiger's wins aren't always blowouts--he won by two
shots yesterday. If anything, the story yesterday was
Ernie Els, looking like the Ernie who was Tiger's closest
challenger a few years back; or the emergence of Woody
Austin, who by finishing second moved himself onto the
President's Cup team. Personally, I thought both of them
were more exciting than Tiger, who was playing primarily
to protect his lead and not do something dumb that might
lead to a lot of bogeys. The most excitement Tiger brought
to the tournament was on Friday, when he would have set
a major-tournament scoring record if the ball hadn't lipped
out of the hole at 18.
Caught y'all, Tiger's remark on #5 was the 2nd time he uttered that phrase. He did it several holes earlier when he blocked a tee shot out to the right. He's said it many times before. One of the most notable was at pebble beach when he hooked his tee shot into the ocean on #18.
CBS does not have the guts to at least apologize to the viewers on behalf of their meal ticket.
CBS does not have the guts to at least apologize to the viewers on behalf of their meal ticket.
I don't want to go off-topic and get into a debate
about morality. I do think that Tiger--and other
athletes who do the same thing--does not act
very professionally; he should remember he's on
television and kids are watching (but then again,
they know words I didn't learn until I was a teenager).
But as I said in my other post on this, who's going to
stop him? Woody Austin, who finished second Sunday,
made a valid point when he said that the media call
him a "hothead" who's "out of control" when he loses
his temper, but when Tiger does it he's just being
"competitive."
Here's the thing, as USA Today pointed out yesterday:
Tiger transcends his sport as no one has since Michael
Jordan. How many of you would even watch golf if it
weren't for him (we have the Wyndham coming up this
week right here in my area and I won't be watching because
neither he nor the rest of the "Big Five": Els, Mickelson, Vijay,
and Retief Goosen, is playing)? Nantz, Feherty, McCord, and
the rest of the CBS crew can get pretty sickening fawning over
Tiger, but, hey, it's television. He's ratings insurance. We're
stuck with people overlooking Tiger's faults.
about morality. I do think that Tiger--and other
athletes who do the same thing--does not act
very professionally; he should remember he's on
television and kids are watching (but then again,
they know words I didn't learn until I was a teenager).
But as I said in my other post on this, who's going to
stop him? Woody Austin, who finished second Sunday,
made a valid point when he said that the media call
him a "hothead" who's "out of control" when he loses
his temper, but when Tiger does it he's just being
"competitive."
Here's the thing, as USA Today pointed out yesterday:
Tiger transcends his sport as no one has since Michael
Jordan. How many of you would even watch golf if it
weren't for him (we have the Wyndham coming up this
week right here in my area and I won't be watching because
neither he nor the rest of the "Big Five": Els, Mickelson, Vijay,
and Retief Goosen, is playing)? Nantz, Feherty, McCord, and
the rest of the CBS crew can get pretty sickening fawning over
Tiger, but, hey, it's television. He's ratings insurance. We're
stuck with people overlooking Tiger's faults.
Somehow I'm reminded of a story Ed Sullivan's
original producer (before Bob Precht, his son-
in-law) Marlo Lewis told in his book about Sullivan,
"Prime Time": seems that when Elvis Presley was
getting ready for his third and final appearance on
Sullivan's show in January 1957, Lewis suggested
that Sullivan ask Elvis to tone down the gyrations.
Sullivan refused; "The kid's an emperor now," he
said, and expressed concern that Elvis might tell
Sullivan where to go and then take a walk. According
to Lewis, Sullivan told him to tell the director to "wing
it" (depart from the planned shots) if Elvis began to
wiggle too much (hence the legend about his being
photographed from the waist up). Elvis, as it turned
out, wasn't angry at all. But Sullivan's refusal to
confront him was unusual for someone not easily
intimidated by entertainers, no matter how big.
Which brings me back to Tiger: he, too, is practically
an "emperor," and perhaps the people at CBS (or ABC--
which is getting out of golf--or NBC) feel too intimidated
to ask him to watch his language. Maybe, and I emphasize
"maybe," he would not get angry if they did. But when you
treat a golfer as if he's Superman, Einstein, and Jesus Christ
rolled into one, it's not likely you're going to call attention to
his faults. That said, I reiterate that I also object to his language;
I just don't think anyone can or will do anything about it.
One other note: my dad and I both watch golf (he plays),
and he said that what irritated him the most were the frequent
highlights of Tiger's earlier rounds (esp. Friday and Saturday).
At one point I even asked myself, are we watching a golf tournament
or are we watching Tiger? I mean, Saturday they even showed him
hitting balls in order to warm up! The answer to my question, I think,
is obvious.
original producer (before Bob Precht, his son-
in-law) Marlo Lewis told in his book about Sullivan,
"Prime Time": seems that when Elvis Presley was
getting ready for his third and final appearance on
Sullivan's show in January 1957, Lewis suggested
that Sullivan ask Elvis to tone down the gyrations.
Sullivan refused; "The kid's an emperor now," he
said, and expressed concern that Elvis might tell
Sullivan where to go and then take a walk. According
to Lewis, Sullivan told him to tell the director to "wing
it" (depart from the planned shots) if Elvis began to
wiggle too much (hence the legend about his being
photographed from the waist up). Elvis, as it turned
out, wasn't angry at all. But Sullivan's refusal to
confront him was unusual for someone not easily
intimidated by entertainers, no matter how big.
Which brings me back to Tiger: he, too, is practically
an "emperor," and perhaps the people at CBS (or ABC--
which is getting out of golf--or NBC) feel too intimidated
to ask him to watch his language. Maybe, and I emphasize
"maybe," he would not get angry if they did. But when you
treat a golfer as if he's Superman, Einstein, and Jesus Christ
rolled into one, it's not likely you're going to call attention to
his faults. That said, I reiterate that I also object to his language;
I just don't think anyone can or will do anything about it.
One other note: my dad and I both watch golf (he plays),
and he said that what irritated him the most were the frequent
highlights of Tiger's earlier rounds (esp. Friday and Saturday).
At one point I even asked myself, are we watching a golf tournament
or are we watching Tiger? I mean, Saturday they even showed him
hitting balls in order to warm up! The answer to my question, I think,
is obvious.
If Tiger were to leave a putt 2" short of the hole and were to mumble (hit it you P) and the audio catches that it's certainly invasive andf funny since T' is poking fun at himself. But if he flat out yells a curse word then someone should have the guts or golf balls to take him to task.
Having said that he is generally good for golf.
Having said that he is generally good for golf.
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imhomerjay
Guest
Oh my heavens. He said GDI on a Sunday. That makes it much worse. Sacred day and all that. But then, none of us should be watching TV on the Lord’s day, watching people like Tiger work at their career and violating the “remember the Sabbath” commandment.
Seriously, it’s not Tiger’s job to think, “Hmmmm, some people might be offended if they CHOOSE to tune in to watch me engage in my career, which I take very seriously, and CHOOSE not to turn down the volume on a network that CHOOSES to use technology to listen in on what I’m not saying for the world’s consumption. So let me say ‘Oh fiddlesticks’ instead.”
Offended? Don’t watch, or turn down the volume. And if kids are watching, how about using it as an opportunity to be a parent and explain your values to your kids about what is and isn’t appropriate to say, instead of asking everyone else to make sure your kids’ ears aren’t offended?
Seriously, it’s not Tiger’s job to think, “Hmmmm, some people might be offended if they CHOOSE to tune in to watch me engage in my career, which I take very seriously, and CHOOSE not to turn down the volume on a network that CHOOSES to use technology to listen in on what I’m not saying for the world’s consumption. So let me say ‘Oh fiddlesticks’ instead.”
Offended? Don’t watch, or turn down the volume. And if kids are watching, how about using it as an opportunity to be a parent and explain your values to your kids about what is and isn’t appropriate to say, instead of asking everyone else to make sure your kids’ ears aren’t offended?
Time out; I am far from being a religious zealot. I don't watch the religious channels since they are a tool to extract $$ from their viewers. What Tiger did was WRONG! And since this is a radio/tv discusssion board, I'm pointing out that CBS, in their self serving interest, did not have the guts to call Tiger out on it.
In golf, nobody rocks the boat because everybody is profitting and nicely at that.
In golf, nobody rocks the boat because everybody is profitting and nicely at that.
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