Tim Conway Jr.'s fill-ins tonight were awful!

[SimiRadioListener26]

So gouging the tax payers is different from gouging broadcasting companies for longer vacations and platinum health benefits?

Yes. If a private union gouges a company, and they do so without leveraging government pull, it's nobody's business but the company's because no one else has been hurt (and besides, the victim and the perpetrator are the same because the company voluntarily agreed to those demands).

 

[robnokshus06]

if you are a scrub at KTLK (but I repeat myself) you need to hide behind the union for every little tidbit and morsel you can lay your little squirrel paws on

Yes, we all know how terrible it is for people to make a living wage. America will be so much better once we dispense with the middle class.

 

[davideduardo]

John and Ken are the most vocal against unions and yet they probably are part of a union that fights tooth and nail to get them their nice generous vacations days and their health care benefits. No?

Like a lot of AFTRA (or AFTRA / SAG now) talent that had to join the union to be able to do voiceover work or to be at a union shop station, those guys are so far above the union scale that the union does nothing for them.

Folks like John & Ken generally have an agent or lawyer who works with them and the station to negotiate contracts. The union contract is almost irrelevant when you are making 20, 30, 50 times scale... except that the base conditions generally are respected. But there is nothing in a blanket union deal in radio that prohibits paying more than scale and giving greater benefits to certain people.

 

[davideduardo]

Is KFI a union shop? I don't think it is.

Are you kidding? Everyone who does radio has to be part of AFTRA (at least until they merged with SAG).

And that is not the case... there are quite a few non-union stations and clusters in LA; statewide as you get out of a couple of big markets, there is little union activity in radio.

 

[davideduardo]

What ever happened to letting Aron Bender fill in? I thought he was pretty good!

He filled in last night, along with Kennedy.

 

[SimiRadioListener26]

What ever happened to letting Aron Bender fill in? I thought he was pretty good!

He filled in last night, along with Kennedy.

They meant filling in as host. Kennedy was the host, Bender did his usual thing as news anchor and guy who occasionally chimes in.

 

[SimiRadioListener26]

Is KFI a union shop? I don't think it is.

Are you kidding? Everyone who does radio has to be part of AFTRA (at least until they merged with SAG).

And that is not the case... there are quite a few non-union stations and clusters in LA; statewide as you get out of a couple of big markets, there is little union activity in radio.

I am not a lawyer, so explain how this is possible. I thought that in California, which isn't a right-to-work state, it was impossible for employers to refuse to deal with unions.

 

[davideduardo]

I am not a lawyer, so explain how this is possible. I thought that in California, which isn't a right-to-work state, it was impossible for employers to refuse to deal with unions.

In very broad strokes, to have a unionized workforce, the non-management employees of a business have to organize and call for a certification election.

If a unionization election does not give a majority for the union, then there is no union. And if, at some point, a decertification election is called and the majority vote for decertification, the union goes away.

Simply said, if the "unionizanble" workforce does not vote in a union, there is no union.

 

[ChannelFlipper]

I am not a lawyer, so explain how this is possible. I thought that in California, which isn't a right-to-work state, it was impossible for employers to refuse to deal with unions.

In very broad strokes, to have a unionized workforce, the non-management employees of a business have to organize and call for a certification election.

If a unionization election does not give a majority for the union, then there is no union. And if, at some point, a decertification election is called and the majority vote for decertification, the union goes away.

Simply said, if the "unionizanble" workforce does not vote in a union, there is no union.

It is not a good idea for a workforce to organize a union when they can probably be easily, and most likely more profitably, replaced with automation, syndication, or both.

 

[davideduardo]

It is not a good idea for a workforce to organize a union when they can probably be easily, and most likely more profitably, replaced with automation, syndication, or both.

Where this might be the case, it has been the case for the last 40-some years.

 

[Bug on the rug]

After Wednesday's God AWFUL hostess (the absolute worst talk radio in the annuls of KFI's history!!), now I kinda miss the the superficial lightweights Gina & Randy!

And speaking of God ... thank God Timmy's back tomorrow night!