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Tim Dukes New Gig

The man responsible for wrecking most of Clear Channel Atlanta, PD Tim Dukes, has a new career. According to the Chicago Sun-Times, he's studying to become a broker and financial adviser for Wachovia Securities in Chicago.

Note to self: get all my money out of Wachovia today!
 
Neil Millman said:
The man responsible for wrecking most of Clear Channel Atlanta, PD Tim Dukes, has a new career. According to the Chicago Sun-Times, he's studying to become a broker and financial adviser for Wachovia Securities in Chicago.

Note to self: get all my money out of Wachovia today!

I'd like to see the "Reason for leaving previous employer" on that job application.
 
In terms of wrecking CC-Atlanta, Tim Duke's only guilt is by association. The problem's in CC-Atlanta were not created by Tim, and have continued far past his tenure.

If you've ever met Tim, or worked with him, you would know he's extremely intelligent and a class act.
 
Neil Millman said:
The man responsible for wrecking most of Clear Channel Atlanta, PD Tim Dukes, has a new career. According to the Chicago Sun-Times, he's studying to become a broker and financial adviser for Wachovia Securities in Chicago.

Note to self: get all my money out of Wachovia today!

Neil Millman is a self-important [EDIT] who couldn't program a VCR, and likely has never had a show or ratings track record.

Tim Dukes, on the other hand, is a decent guy who had some success and failures and made the wise move to do something more lucrative and rewarding.


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The answer to your question Dash is......well....no one is, in particular, to blame!
When the broadcast industry was deregulated back in the mid nineties, a brand new paradigm, or business model, was put in place. One management group would attempt to successfully program, operate, and sell over 1000 radio stations spread from coast to coast. And there were those, in their infinite wisdom, who warned it would not be possible....that radio was "local" and needed local, hands-on management, and that "cookie-cutter" formats would not work. There was another school of thought that said the country is, culturally, homogeneous, and would accept like-formats just as network programming is nationally accepted.
The schools still out on who is right....but so far, no one has sucessfully operated 1000 stations. All the large companies have dog stations where the right mix consistantly eludes the management.
While many of the CC moves baffle me I also see that long term strategy dictates change for the radio paradigm. Billions will be paid....and made....when the rocket scientist comes along who can successfully transform radio and take it to the next level.
 
Tim Dukes is getting out of radio precisely when people should be getting out of radio...and are. The business is HORRIBLE right now....business-wise, programming-wise, everything. Neil Millman is the typical blogger who thinks he knows something about a business when, in fact, he's clueless. He still thinks radio is about programming what's "cool" or what "sounds good" or what he, himself, likes. Radio is, make no mistake, about money and what will bring in the most, period. Guys like Millman (and others on this board) are confusing radio with college radio. Congrats to Tim Dukes. He'll eat all of you "radio authorites" for lunch at the end of the day.
 
Good points, but I'd like to pin the blame on somebody... I'm still saddened by the demise of my favorite stations.

Oh well, I guess O&A, DeepTracks, and old RG shows on mp3 will have to do. I still miss GST in afternoon traffic.
 
DashRiprock said:
Good points, but I'd like to pin the blame on somebody... I'm still saddened by the demise of my favorite stations.

Oh well, I guess O&A, DeepTracks, and old RG shows on mp3 will have to do. I still miss GST in afternoon traffic.

There IS someone to blame... that guy is Marc Chase! He threw is own boy "Dukes" under the bus when the Regular Guys screwed up the first time! Not to mention his countless other blunders.
 
tim is a great person and had a great run! the loop had a few nice books while Tim was there and has been down since he left. we need more good guys like him in the biz, it's a shame he's left radio but real life goes on. good luck Tim!
 
holyspirit said:
tim is a great person and had a great run! the loop had a few nice books while Tim was there and has been down since he left. we need more good guys like him in the biz, it's a shame he's left radio but real life goes on. good luck Tim!

I will second that.
 
content said:
holyspirit said:
tim is a great person and had a great run! the loop had a few nice books while Tim was there and has been down since he left. we need more good guys like him in the biz, it's a shame he's left radio but real life goes on. good luck Tim!

I will second that.

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I got a lot of love for Tim Dukes. The guy gave me my shot at full time on 96rock. I was hoping he would land another gig and hire me again! No such luck... I don't blame him for getting out. It's a great job while it lasts but absolutely no security. I'm sure I speak for a lot of people in radio when I say "Every day feels like it could be your last." Southside and I were fired when we were number 2 with men... If that's not job security I don't know what is.

Good luck Tim!


Rhodes
 
Tim's a good guy

Oh yeah, like CC Atlanta really turned around when Tim left? Come on. If you followed the Loop in Chicago the numbers and revenue were increasing. He brought Jonathon Brandmeier back to do mornings. Emmis had fired all the sales assistants they could and both Tim and the Regional Programming Guy were let go months and months ago. He started investments in May after wondering if there was a station anywhere that could focus on programming vs slashing budgets, on giving a work environment where people had fun and felt secure, and being a family guy hated that his daughter might be the new kid in class yet another school year. Why keep killing yourself for owners who have one goal: for the owner to get rich and blame the local team for all the problems.
What happened to Tim happens to a lot of people. They go to Chicago, fall in love with the city, and decide it's a great place to live. Making the career change took guts because a lot of guys would rather stay in the business and bad mouth it all day. The business changed. Tim didn't want the business to change him. He seems happy.
Don't sneeze at this too quickly. Not everybody who applies to the securities business gets accepted. You gotta hand it to a guy with a Plan B that doesn't include moving to another CC or Emmis station hoping "this time" it everything goes as "promised."
 
I don't know him. I've never heard any thing terrible about the guy.

My question in reading all of these responses is whether I'm out of my mind not to consider a career change.

It just seems that since the 1996 Deregulation Act everything went down the river sans boat and/or paddle. And with these huge corporations in control, there isn't much that can be done about it other than moving to a small market and getting a lower-paying job BUT with a locally owned station, i.e. Bahakel Chattanooga, and more autonomy in the sales/programming sides.

I have seen more good managers and even sales people fired simply because "upper management" had to cover their hind-sides. It is truly sickening to me because as bad as Atlanta radio can be, I still love the medium.
 
Everyone I knew in the industry, that I respected, is out. Every show I used to listen to (in town or otherwise) is gone.

We all love what radio used to be... I believe in the "pendulum" theory... it'll be back. It's gone right now, but it'll be back.





(I hope)
 
Miss_Anthrope said:
Everyone I knew in the industry, that I respected, is out. Every show I used to listen to (in town or otherwise) is gone.

We all love what radio used to be... I believe in the "pendulum" theory... it'll be back. It's gone right now, but it'll be back.

(I hope)

Agreed. Once they fire all the idiots who still run everything like it's 1987.
 
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