Time-change weekend

[flashback]

i think as a nation we should drop daylight saving time.let it be the same time year round for all of the states without having to change the clocks .

daylight saving time is supposidly for energy savings.but indiana has started to use more energy after restarting DST .so the question is would other states use less energy if there was no DST in the united states?

how old were the last nationwide studies on energy usage involving DST use?wouldn`t they be outdated?

 

[Markxxx]

I'd rather keep Halloween on daylight time. Actually, I would rather stay on daylight time all year.

That is exactly the argument that got DST pushed into November. The original just pushed the date back in March, then the argument came that Halloween would be better off in DST, so they added a week to the other end as well

 

[firepoint525]

I'd rather keep Halloween on daylight time. Actually, I would rather stay on daylight time all year.

That is exactly the argument that got DST pushed into November. The original just pushed the date back in March, then the argument came that Halloween would be better off in DST, so they added a week to the other end as well

I seem to recall a compromise which took Halloween week out of DST the last time they revised time changes, then this most recent change (2007) finally put Halloween on DST. Still wonder about that second week of March thing for the spring time change.

 

[mgsports]

Texas/New Mexico/LS/Mobile,Alabama,Florida,Arizona,Southern California,Mexico,Hawaii and so on Southern Time meaning Midnight starts the day. East Coast One Hour behind. Central area's Minnesota to Ohio 2 hours behind MO/ARK/OK/KS/Iowa/Nebraska 3 hours behind Colorado/Wyoming/North and South Dakota/Nevada 4 hours behind and rest of California/Oregon/Washington 5 hours Behind. States like Florida that don't get Snow don't lose an hour.

 

[Bill_W]

Texas/New Mexico/LS/Mobile,Alabama,Florida,Arizona,Southern California,Mexico,Hawaii and so on Southern Time meaning Midnight starts the day. East Coast One Hour behind. Central area's Minnesota to Ohio 2 hours behind MO/ARK/OK/KS/Iowa/Nebraska 3 hours behind Colorado/Wyoming/North and South Dakota/Nevada 4 hours behind and rest of California/Oregon/Washington 5 hours Behind. States like Florida that don't get Snow don't lose an hour.

What????

 

[KML0224]

I still think Indiana should be on central time in its entirety, meaning Central Standard Time now and then Central Daylight Time from March to November, just like Chicago. My only question about that would be for somebody crossing from Indiana north into Michigan, since southern and even southwest lower Michigan are on eastern time. Another argument? The local sunrise and sunset time for Indianapolis. Compared to my home city of New Britain, CT (outside of Hartford), their rise and set times for November 9th are 7:22 AM and 5:35 PM , compared to 6:32 AM and 4:37 PM here. Another issue is their longitude west of Greenwich. Both Indianapolis and Nashville are at or slightly past 86 degrees west longitude. Nashville is in the Central Time Zone. Why isn't Indianapolis? ???

 

[LKellerIII]

I'd rather keep Halloween on daylight time. Actually, I would rather stay on daylight time all year.

This actually happened for one year - I think it was 1974. Due to the energy crisis (long lines of cars at gas stations, etc.), President Nixon retained DST for the entire winter as an energy saving measure. The rationale was that people would use less heating oil in their homes if sunset was an hour later.

The problem was, by the time the days were shortest (December, January), sunrise didn't happen until after 8:00 AM. And that was where I lived in the San Francisco Bay Area. Sunrise had to have been even later in more northern cities like New York, Chicago, Boston, Seattle, etc.

I was a new college student at the time, and definitely NOT a morning person, so it was difficult to get myself out of bed and to early classes.

 

[firepoint525]

I still think Indiana should be on central time in its entirety, meaning Central Standard Time now and then Central Daylight Time from March to November, just like Chicago. My only question about that would be for somebody crossing from Indiana north into Michigan, since southern and even southwest lower Michigan are on eastern time. Another argument? The local sunrise and sunset time for Indianapolis. Compared to my home city of New Britain, CT (outside of Hartford), their rise and set times for November 9th are 7:22 AM and 5:35 PM , compared to 6:32 AM and 4:37 PM here. Another issue is their longitude west of Greenwich. Both Indianapolis and Nashville are at or slightly past 86 degrees west longitude. Nashville is in the Central Time Zone. Why isn't Indianapolis? ???

That may have been why Indiana did not observe DST for the longest time, save for a county or two near Louisville. It's my understanding that Alabama (also along the same longitudinal line) wants to go to eastern time, but I have not heard much about that lately. If Indiana were all on central time, that would put nearly all of I-65 in central time, except for the areas of Kentucky near Louisville.

 

[firepoint525]

This actually happened for one year - I think it was 1974. Due to the energy crisis (long lines of cars at gas stations, etc.), President Nixon retained DST for the entire winter as an energy saving measure. The rationale was that people would use less heating oil in their homes if sunset was an hour later.
The problem was, by the time the days were shortest (December, January), sunrise didn't happen until after 8:00 AM. And that was where I lived in the San Francisco Bay Area. Sunrise had to have been even later in more northern cities like New York, Chicago, Boston, Seattle, etc.
I was a new college student at the time, and definitely NOT a morning person, so it was difficult to get myself out of bed and to early classes.

I was about fourth or fifth grade about that time, and while I remember year-round DST, I don't remember much else about it. With me, time changes get harder on me as I get older. I would like to be on eastern time all year, but not observe DST. Of course, that would put January sunrise at about 8:00 a.m. here as well.

 

[Bill_W]

I was 5 that winter, so I had to have been in kindergarten in '74. I was living in Massachusetts right outside of Boston at the time and I remember nothing about not changing the clocks back to EST. I do know that that extra week of daylight savings now makes it look like nighttime at 7am here in PA just West of Philly.
I DO remember long gas lines and gas stations running out of gas in my hometown.

 

[oldiesfan6479]

That may have been why Indiana did not observe DST for the longest time, save for a county
or two near Louisville.

Oh, you mean those five "illegal counties" next to Cincinnati and Louisville
going on EDT. Shame on them. ;D

So how come the Feds never dinged them for doing the "DST nasty"?

 

[borderblaster]

My understanding is that government offices in those "illegal" DST counties operated on EST; the feds and state can't do much to make private citizens and businesses not observe whatever time they feel like.