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Time is ripe for E-skip

OK here we go, more E-skip fun.

Report from Miami, Florida stating 15 minutes of solid reception of KEOM.

Caller said they wished KEOM could be heard out there, regularly.

R
 
> OK here we go, more E-skip fun.
>
> Report from Miami, Florida stating 15 minutes of solid
> reception of KEOM.
>
> Caller said they wished KEOM could be heard out there,
> regularly.

Caller than requested some indie rock on the weekends and breaks from the students that they didn't have to read first. Caller was also puzzled why a high school station plays 70's cheese that predates it's student body by 30 years.

Don't get me wrong...KEOM was great, before it's format could be heard on 4 or so commercial stations. <P ID="signature">______________
WG</P>
 
> > OK here we go, more E-skip fun.
> >
> > Report from Miami, Florida stating 15 minutes of solid
> > reception of KEOM.
> >
> > Caller said they wished KEOM could be heard out there,
> > regularly.
>
> Caller than requested some indie rock on the weekends and
> breaks from the students that they didn't have to read
> first. Caller was also puzzled why a high school station
> plays 70's cheese that predates it's student body by 30
> years.
>
> Don't get me wrong...KEOM was great, before it's format
> could be heard on 4 or so commercial stations.

That's funny. And yes, I've had my fill of the 70's too, since Sunny came along.

Back to the E skip subject, I've suspected that it might be starting to kick in a little, as I chatted with a poster of the Louisiana board about his reception of Miami FM's. I really haven't decided if it was really good tropo or a mild episode of E-skip in that case, because the distance is about 650 miles. Tropo generally involves distances from about 100 to 300 miles, whereas with E-skip the sky's the limit (well, so to speak) and stations can be heard from say, 800 to 1200 miles away. The distance of his reception is between the two, so who's to say.

What's puzzling me is the lack of breakout, blistering DX on the TV channels above Channel 2. If E-skip is really hot, you'd be receiving skip on Channels 2 through 6 (54 to 88mHz) and up into the FM band. It can affect FM and not be that evident on TV's VHF-Low channels, but that's awfully rare. If getting KEOM in Florida is tropo ducting, that's pretty amazing. But if it's really E-skip, get ready for more really amazing DX to start kicking in.
 
A History Lesson

Perhaps this is a long overdue answer to this question, so here goes.

I’ve seen suggestion around here on RI a few times that says KEOM should allow the students to pick the music, and to let them play Rock (or whatever). I suspect that the few people who have suggested this, are not fully aware that in KEOM’s early days, there was a time when this was allowed. The program was called the Student Triple Take, and essentially for half hour blocks on Friday afternoon, each of the three high schools had a couple of students who basically delivered school news about their school and played (more or less) whatever music they wanted.

In those days KEOM was only broadcasting with an ERP of 3 kW, so the coverage area was quite small. However, moving to the current tower brought many changes. One of the most important changes was the increase in ERP power to 61 kW. Thus KEOM’s coverage area increased and KEOM could be heard over much of Dallas County (roughly 60 to 80 miles North, East and South of the tower… somewhat less coverage to the West, to protect 88.7 FM).

Since KEOM’s coverage area increased, it was felt that the station needed a more consistent format. Among other things this meant eliminating dayparted programming such as the Student Triple Take. This was a change executed well over 10 years ago, and personally I don’t think that type of free-form programming will ever return. Suffice it to say, been there, done that.

As was noted in a few threads below, Mesquite ISD is the license holder of KEOM. The target audience is primarily parents of students in the district. KEOM began and still remains a “Community Service” station. Dr. Ralph Poteet envisioned KEOM as being a way to communicate Mesquite ISD related information to the city, and that’s what KEOM does. History buffs may recall one of the original slogans, “Voice of the Mesquite Schools and Community”.

KEOM is a Community Service station, not a small time College FM’er meant for free-form programming. KEOM teaches the students “what to expect” in commercial radio. Granted I don’t like the fact that commercial radio is liner card reader driven anymore than the rest of you. But that is the reality of radio today.

There is a lot of behind the scenes instruction given to the students, in addition to basic board operator skills. They write and produce quite a bit of material, they learn about broadcast journalism, they study FCC rules and now with a Radio II class some of them will even learn about and become involved with other areas such as Sports Reporting and General Station Programming.

So yes, KEOM is a very hands-on learning laboratory for the students. But the students are not the target demo. Their parents are. Besides, the music on KEOM is meant to serve as a hook to keep people tuned in between the Community Service programming, which is and will always be KEOM’s first priority.

I know some of you want a rock station in DFW. But I highly doubt KEOM’s target demo (let alone the MISD School Board) wants that. Yes, I personally agree the music format needs to evolve. Yes, I agree Jack, Sunny, et al are likely chipping away some of our target demo. But Jack, Sunny, et al do not emphasis Community Service. I hear so many people say that K104’s success revolves around the Dallas Community. Even though it’s non-commercial, KEOM does the exact same thing for Mesquite.

R

> Caller than requested some indie rock on the weekends and
> breaks from the students that they didn't have to read
> first. Caller was also puzzled why a high school station
> plays 70's cheese that predates it's student body by 30
> years.
>
> Don't get me wrong...KEOM was great, before it's format
> could be heard on 4 or so commercial stations.
 
Re: A History Lesson

Well thought out and appreciated. I don't subscribe to a student picking out their own music without a strong "programming sense". The music would be the same as if they were a corporate station, meaning they would pick out the same old songs over and over again. I appreciate the fact that students are learning how to write, and produce. Live "on air" production is essential, and beyond your football and basketball games. The students( as I and several others have metioned in months pass)need to open that on air mike more and actually announce instead of introing a student doing a brief 20 sec.traffic report weather,and a short PSA. Announcing is part of the learning system in broadcasting,and should be applied here. I know Dr.Griffin sets the rules,but not allowing the students to talk more "live" on the air is a hinderance to their growth. I am not advocating talking after every song just between every two at the max. They should have well thought out,no "slang" words to say. This would help them gain even more confidence and help develop their announcing skills far better than what is presenteed now.The Productions I hear are of adults mostly and that's ok,but some should include a students voice as well. I hear Dr. James Griffin often on Promos when the students could handle that chore themselves. I know you will vigorously defend otherwise,but a meeting with Dr.Griffin ,students ect. should be held to "open the mikeup" more.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by edwardrmurrow on 06/01/05 07:24 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: A History Lesson

You are correct Dr. Griffin is in charge. Since I am not a certified instructor, I have very little say in anything that involves the students. I am just the Music Director. Dr. Griffin is the Program Director.

R

> Well thought out and appreciated. I don't subscribe to a
> student picking out their own music without a strong
> "programming sense". The music would be the same as if they
> were a corporate station, meaning they would pick out the
> same old songs over and over again. I appreciate the fact
> that students are learning how to write, and produce. Live
> "on air" production is essential, and beyond your football
> and basketball games. The students( as I and several others
> have metioned in months pass)need to open that on air mike
> more and actually announce instead of introing a student
> doing a brief 20 sec.traffic report weather,and a short PSA.
> Announcing is part of the learning system in
> broadcasting,and should be applied here. I know Dr.Griffin
> sets the rules,but not allowing the students to talk more
> "live" on the air is a hinderance to their growth. I am not
> advocating talking after every song just between every two
> at the max. They should have well thought out,no "slang"
> words to say. This would help them gasin even more
> confidence and help develop their announcing skills far
> better than what is presenteed now.The Productions I hear
> are of adults mostly and that's ok,but some should include a
> students voice as well. I hear Dr. James Griffin often on
> Promos when the students could handle that chore themselves.
> I know you will vigorously defend otherwise,but a meeting
> with Dr.Griffin ,students ect. should be held to "open the
> mikeup" more.
>
 
> > > OK here we go, more E-skip fun.
> > >
> > > Report from Miami, Florida stating 15 minutes of solid
> > > reception of KEOM.
> > >
> > > Caller said they wished KEOM could be heard out there,
> > > regularly.
> >
> > Caller than requested some indie rock on the weekends and
> > breaks from the students that they didn't have to read
> > first. Caller was also puzzled why a high school station
> > plays 70's cheese that predates it's student body by 30
> > years.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong...KEOM was great, before it's format
> > could be heard on 4 or so commercial stations.
>
> That's funny. And yes, I've had my fill of the 70's too,
> since Sunny came along.
>
> Back to the E skip subject, I've suspected that it might be
> starting to kick in a little, as I chatted with a poster of
> the Louisiana board about his reception of Miami FM's. I
> really haven't decided if it was really good tropo or a mild
> episode of E-skip in that case, because the distance is
> about 650 miles. Tropo generally involves distances from
> about 100 to 300 miles, whereas with E-skip the sky's the
> limit (well, so to speak) and stations can be heard from
> say, 800 to 1200 miles away. The distance of his reception
> is between the two, so who's to say.
>
> What's puzzling me is the lack of breakout, blistering DX on
> the TV channels above Channel 2. If E-skip is really hot,
> you'd be receiving skip on Channels 2 through 6 (54 to
> 88mHz) and up into the FM band. It can affect FM and not be
> that evident on TV's VHF-Low channels, but that's awfully
> rare. If getting KEOM in Florida is tropo ducting, that's
> pretty amazing. But if it's really E-skip, get ready for
> more really amazing DX to start kicking in.
>

Let's also bear in mind when this DX is seen; 'tropospheric ducting'
is more prevalent in the morning hours (usually onsetting after dusk),
before sun/solar heating causes 'thermals' to mix the otherwise stratified levels in atmosphere in the lower heights espcially. Although I have seen
really GOOD tropo as late as noon, past that hour you're more than likely
seeing some other 'skip' propagation phenomonon.

Tropo is also less enthusuastic in aiding the lower frequencies, like
CH 2 or 6 Meters (50-54 MHz) or 10 Meters (28 - 30 MHz) whereas E-layer is
most friendly to those freqs ...

I have seen MUCH ghosting from other signals on CH's 2 and 4 here in the
DFW area esp. in the evning hours the last week or so; this is idicative
of E-layer propagation as opposed to tropo.

I have also seen 10 Meters 'open' (and worked any stations with low power)
unlike I have seen it in months as well; this as a result of ionospheric
influences as well rather than tropospheric ducting.

Regards, _Jim
 
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