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Time to move Arlene from Drive Time on WHJJ

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To improve the WHJJ programming day, it would be a good idea to dump IMUS (he's no liberal) and shuffle springer to late night in order to give Arlene 3 hours before Al Franken.

To dominate Drive Time (especially when WPRO's most obvious weakness is Dan Yorke), let Randi Rhodes draw in listeners with her powerful show. Its a waste to only play 2 hours of Randi from 6pm to 8pm.....

Im not a big fan of Arlene but she is a respected local host that should not be pushed off the station. Geoff Charles should be moved to the weekends or dumped for another local host with greater appeal.

AAR doesn't need Springer in prime listening time in RI, we need some people which better fit this blue state....the Violet, Franken, Rhodes threesome is powerful and entertaining.

IMUS and Springer are best left to other times or not at all.
 
> IMUS and Springer are best left to other times or not at
> all.
--------------------

I disagree. I think they are the stronger personalities out of everyone you mentioned. The sad thing is that Imus is only a shell of his former self and Springer is much more entertaining on television. So I don't want to appear to be defending them. My point is that even though neither Imus or Springer are anything to write home about, they are still better than anything else on HJJ. That's just my opinion.

Personally if I was programming the station I would totally clean house and try to turn the station back into something to be proud of. 24 hour traffic reports from the RIDOT would probably surpass current WHJJ ratings. As someone else mentioned here before..... WPRO only wins by default.



John<P ID="signature">______________
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John, you remember the golden days at WNBC-AM out of New York
(now WFAN) when Imus was their morning DJ and Howard Stern
was their afternoon drive DJ??
That was an awesome station back then.
I still like Imus because I enjoy politics.
If you're not into national politics then you won't like Imus
these days.

Re: programming at HJJ
If they're going to be a ratings player in Providence then they
need more local programming. Placing Randi Rhodes in Arlene's
3 - 6 spot will guarantee WHJJ ratings plummet to under 1.
Arlene is the ONLY reason I and thousands of others ever tune in
920 anymore. It's sad!

>
> I disagree. I think they are the stronger personalities out
> of everyone you mentioned. The sad thing is that Imus is
> only a shell of his former self and Springer is much more
> entertaining on television. So I don't want to appear to be
> defending them. My point is that even though neither Imus or
> Springer are anything to write home about, they are still
> better than anything else on HJJ. That's just my opinion.
>
> Personally if I was programming the station I would totally
> clean house and try to turn the station back into something
> to be proud of. 24 hour traffic reports from the RIDOT would
> probably surpass current WHJJ ratings. As someone else
> mentioned here before..... WPRO only wins by default.
>
>
>
> John
>
 
> John, you remember the golden days at WNBC-AM out of New
> York
> (now WFAN) when Imus was their morning DJ and Howard Stern
> was their afternoon drive DJ??
> That was an awesome station back then.
> I still like Imus because I enjoy politics.
> If you're not into national politics then you won't like
> Imus
> these days.

IMUS is past his shelf life....if you think using IMUS to promote local NBC hacks like Chris Matthews ....and other media hacks like Howard Fineman is a good use of time, well im sorry about what you think is political discourse...not to totally trash Imus..sometimes he does flash a good question but its so rare its not fun to hear him .....with his stupid ultra-conservative side kicks along for the ride...its just not a good fit with the new liberal radio format WHJJ has moved to.....

Randi Rhodes is a better fit for drive time than Arlene any day of the week. Arlene, to me, is great for the mid-morning. She is well respected and I would not want to see her taken away from loyal Rhode Islanders....but not using Randi where she would be most effective is not good programming.....besides, as stupid a show as Yorke is running right now, its a good time to give people a much more entertaining, and smart option with Randi than listening to Yorke bore everyone for his time on the air...(this is my opinion)

Springer is targeting the red state audience specifically.....thats why I think he can be heard at different times. I don't dislike Springer either....but Randi offers the two-fisted, fight the conservatives, anti-Rush radio I think blue staters need to hear....and hear a lot more these days since the conservatives are pulling out every dirty nasty trick in the book to combat the new effort for liberals to return to talk radio.....Randi can help rally the troops on the left....my opinion.


> Re: programming at HJJ
> If they're going to be a ratings player in Providence then
> they
> need more local programming. Placing Randi Rhodes in
> Arlene's
> 3 - 6 spot will guarantee WHJJ ratings plummet to under 1.
> Arlene is the ONLY reason I and thousands of others ever
> tune in
> 920 anymore. It's sad!

Its sad that all you can do is try to take pot shots at AAR. I don't think Arlene needs to come off the station so your point about the local effect doesnt work...besides a lot of you have been wanting to see Glenn Beck and Laura Ingraham and others on ANOTHER conservative station here in Providence, so no one buys this ...we need more local programming to succeed...stuff

So now we are back to your sad 12+ argument..that WHJJ is dead because of the 12+ drop. Conservative listeners werent all going to stay with WHJJ because the format changed....gee thats a shock.....they might believe it or not seek more of the swill they were listening to so WPRO and other stations were options.

WHJJ has survived fine with the new format....Regarding revenue, listen to WHJJ sometimes and you will see that the ad revenue is there just as strong as it was before, despite the changes the station is not tanking..CC is making money...and the station is just fine.so you need to get over your manic desire to slam WHJJ every turn...and get used to having an alternative to the conservative echo machine. Besides you have WPRO and plenty of options for your type of radi, what are you guys afraid of..my god,..can providence have one alternative to Rush and Hannity and that horrible Savage guy?


> >
> > Personally if I was programming the station I would
> totally
> > clean house and try to turn the station back into
> something
> > to be proud of. 24 hour traffic reports from the RIDOT
> would
> > probably surpass current WHJJ ratings. As someone else
> > mentioned here before..... WPRO only wins by default.
> >
>

Personally those of us on the left are glad that you are NOT programming the station. Then it would be a great littany of conservative echos and talking points and distortion 24-7. I like the WHJJ weekend stuff as well although i prefer AAR if i had a choice....but its a diverse set of shows for everyone not just the left-leaning...

I mean you people didnt even give WHJJ credit for scooping WPRO on a recent news event. (there was a thread about it recently) Its ok if you hate AAR but dont make the staff at WHJJ sound like they are all of as sudden incompetent due to a format change....its silly. If you have an axe to grind against the staff, this is not the place...or the forum.
 
> I mean you people didnt even give WHJJ credit for scooping
> WPRO on a recent news event. (there was a thread about it
> recently) Its ok if you hate AAR but dont make the staff at
> WHJJ sound like they are all of as sudden incompetent due to
> a format change....its silly. If you have an axe to grind
> against the staff, this is not the place...or the forum.
>

Nice post. Thanks for the support. Where is the thread you reference?
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by whinerline on 06/26/05 01:46 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> > I mean you people didnt even give WHJJ credit for scooping
>
> > WPRO on a recent news event. (there was a thread about it
> > recently) Its ok if you hate AAR but dont make the staff
> at
> > WHJJ sound like they are all of as sudden incompetent due
> to
> > a format change....its silly. If you have an axe to grind
> > against the staff, this is not the place...or the forum.
> >
>
> Nice post. Thanks for the support. Where is the thread you
> reference?
>

its ok whinerline i saw it before you edited it....its ok to be ultraconservative and work at WHJJ (just kidding)

here are the threads i mentioned in my post

http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=463527&Board=providence = about the scoop on the news

http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=444857&Board=providence = about the non-local programming
 
> > > I mean you people didnt even give WHJJ credit for
> scooping
> >
> > > WPRO on a recent news event. (there was a thread about
> it
> > > recently) Its ok if you hate AAR but dont make the staff
>
> > at
> > > WHJJ sound like they are all of as sudden incompetent
> due
> > to
> > > a format change....its silly. If you have an axe to
> grind
> > > against the staff, this is not the place...or the forum.
>
> > >
> >
> > Nice post. Thanks for the support. Where is the thread
> you
> > reference?
> >
>
> its ok whinerline i saw it before you edited it....its ok to
> be ultraconservative and work at WHJJ (just kidding)
>
> here are the threads i mentioned in my post
>
http:> //www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=463527&Board=providence
> = about the scoop on the news
>
http:> //www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=444857&Board=providence
> = about the non-local programming
>

Thanks.

About the edit... I dont want people to think im an CC 'homer' when it comes to my posts here just because I work for them. That was the reason for the edit.
 
Doc, how can we give WHJJ credit for covering a breaking news story when none of us are listening??
Air Amerika sucks!
 
Doc, please post a listing of the ratings for each of WHJJ's shows.
 
John, you remember the golden days at WNBC-AM out of New
York(now WFAN) when Imus was their morning DJ and Howard Stern was their afternoon drive DJ??
-------------------------------


Oh Yes.... What an Awsome station! I first discovered WNBC back in April 1984. I was flipping around the dial one afternoon and I heard this guy goofing on his Mother in Law who he had spent the weekend with. He was bashing her Boston accent and how annoying it was to hear her talk about Cape Cod all day. Howard kept mimicking her by saying. CAPE CAAAAD... CAPE CAAAAD. When I heard this, I said to myself..... LISTEN TO THIS GUY! He's just ripping on his family and doing it in a hilarious way. He didn't even appear to have much of a format to follow. It's the first show where I remember a guy having free reign (or) at least as Free as 1984 would allow. I LOVED IT! I was instantly hooked. I have been a fan ever since. After discovering Stern on WNBC I started listening to the other people on the station. Imus, Wolfman Jack, EJ Crummy, Soupy Sales etc.... WNBC was the best example of personality driven radio in the country. Now "THAT" was a Fun station! Every station should strive to become what WNBC was. It was Perfect Radio!


John

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> Doc, please post a listing of the ratings for each of WHJJ's
> shows.
>

If you have that data post it yourself...i dont have ratings ....all we have is the 12+ and that you guys try to use as an anvil....

I can listen to WHJJ and i dont hear an increase in PSA's, the station doesnt seem to have changed advertisers ...the ads sound the same....CC is not looking to flip the channel back....so what do you have to show that WHJJ is tanking..you are the people that keep saying that....outside of the 12+, you have nothing to make that claim until we hear that WHJJ runs into finanancial difficulties and CC has to make some "big decisions" on the future of the station...its not happening now and i don't see it happening soon.,...so looks like the station will keep airing the stuff you hate so much .....so not sorry to hear that!

so why dont you prove your own point .....mr WHJJ is failing....you guys just want to make hit and run points without one lick of proof...then accuse us of the same...well you put up some evidence and ill do my best to match you...
 
> Doc, how can we give WHJJ credit for covering a breaking
> news story when none of us are listening??
> Air Amerika sucks!
>

so very helpful to the discourse....this is what you conservatives do to further any debate or discourse,...

whinerline = is CC planning to change course on WHJJ....? is the station tanking? since you work there you might be able to point out a few things without getting in trouble.....please dont do that..but help these morons see that the station is not going anywhere soon...
 
> > Doc, how can we give WHJJ credit for covering a breaking
> > news story when none of us are listening??
> > Air Amerika sucks!
> >
>
> so very helpful to the discourse....this is what you
> conservatives do to further any debate or discourse,...
>
> whinerline = is CC planning to change course on WHJJ....? is
> the station tanking? since you work there you might be able
> to point out a few things without getting in
> trouble.....please dont do that..but help these morons see
> that the station is not going anywhere soon...
>

Alot of listeners believe ratings are the end all, be all of TV/Radio. This is simply not the case. Higher ratings boost advertising revenue. That's it. Do you see CC losing money with WHJJ? No. Are they having trouble finding sponsors? No.

The station is still in the process of developing a new format. I don't AGREE with the format change but it will work out in the long run. People don't like change, thus the constant bitching.

WHJJ is not dead. Give it time.
 
I couldn't agree more, Doc.
You're right, WHJJ isn't going ANYWHERE soon. hahahaha
Or later for that matter until they figure out Air Amerika sucks.
WHJJ went from being a newsmaking radio station with very solid ratings
to being completely irrelevant in the Providence market and the morons
who run the place made all that happen in under one year.

>
> whinerline = is CC planning to change course on WHJJ....? is
> the station tanking? since you work there you might be able
> to point out a few things without getting in
> trouble.....please dont do that..but help these morons see
> that the station is not going anywhere soon...
>
 
Doc, you're nothing more than a liberal blowhard and that's it.
Bring something more to this discusssion than your worship of the horrible air amerika programming.
You're the one running your mouth so why don't you show some prove of your point. Show us the WHJJ ratings!!
 
Whinerline posted something much more different that your short sited comment...


> I couldn't agree more, Doc.
> You're right, WHJJ isn't going ANYWHERE soon. hahahaha
> Or later for that matter until they figure out Air Amerika
> sucks.
> WHJJ went from being a newsmaking radio station with very
> solid ratings
> to being completely irrelevant in the Providence market and
> the morons
> who run the place made all that happen in under one year.
>
 
RadioHead,

When you offer a opinion that says "something sucks" without any discourse...well thats is being a moron. If you have someting more intelligent to say, i welcome a normal debate. I certainly can debate the qualiies of the material being broadcasted...but you can't debate..."something sucks"....sounds pretty grade school to me if i respond with "no it doesn't".....you might enjoy that but i certainly don't

My post did not attack you or anyone else here. Im offering something (obviously new to you) called an opinion (and marked as so in my posting) ....because it conflicts with your limited vocabulary...."duh Air america sucks....".

Im betting you never listened at all to really any of the programming. Rush and your guys dont offer much either to defend this failure of an administration...AAR offers an alternative to the VRWC radio shows on the air and I still can't for the life of me understand why you guys try so hard to shoot AAR down if we aren't a threat. (you have the ratings, you have the majority of the stations, we are just getting started...so whats your fear?)

Call me what ever you want but it won't make WHJJ go away....you tell me to post ratings for shows that no one has....but if you were thinking you know that the Arbitron books are not publically known....im sure you dont have access to WPRO's books either...so don't ask stupid things...OK?

My point was clear....I think Randi Rhodes is a better target than Arlene for drive time....and that she is more entertaining than Dan Yorke...a host no one on this board seems to like...maybe if you could form a thought, you would see that point....typical conservative, make the attack then become the victim...





> Doc, you're nothing more than a liberal blowhard and that's
> it.
> Bring something more to this discusssion than your worship
> of the horrible air amerika programming.
> You're the one running your mouth so why don't you show some
> prove of your point. Show us the WHJJ ratings!!
>
 
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