Per latest Time Warner Houston statement: Beginning 3/31/06, iLife Network (ch 203), and American Life (formerly Good Life TV) (ch 396) will no longer be available. GSN (ch 339) will now be available only in the Sports Extra package. These changes will accommodate future programming additions designed to enhance the overall value of your Digital Cable package.
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Time Warner Houston Drops Good TV, Moves GSN!
- Thread starter Mikedond
- Start date
Time Warner is dropping GSN entirely in Austin, effective 2 May.
Somehow I doubt these types of moves are intended to "enhance the overall value" of anything except Time Warner's pocketbook.
Of course, in Austin, if Time Warner wanted to enhance the value of anything, they'd let me order a la carte, so I could get rid of the community access channels, which add no value.
Somehow I doubt these types of moves are intended to "enhance the overall value" of anything except Time Warner's pocketbook.
Of course, in Austin, if Time Warner wanted to enhance the value of anything, they'd let me order a la carte, so I could get rid of the community access channels, which add no value.
> Time Warner is dropping GSN entirely in Austin, effective 2
> May.
>
> Somehow I doubt these types of moves are intended to
> "enhance the overall value" of anything except Time Warner's
> pocketbook.
>
> Of course, in Austin, if Time Warner wanted to enhance the
> value of anything, they'd let me order a la carte, so I
> could get rid of the community access channels, which add no
> value.
>
Community Access channels are a MUST CARRY. Do you really think the cable companies want to devote channels to that crap? So, Time Warner certainly doesn't get the blame for community access -- blame the politicians across the country for forcing them to devote these channels exclusively to "community service".
> May.
>
> Somehow I doubt these types of moves are intended to
> "enhance the overall value" of anything except Time Warner's
> pocketbook.
>
> Of course, in Austin, if Time Warner wanted to enhance the
> value of anything, they'd let me order a la carte, so I
> could get rid of the community access channels, which add no
> value.
>
Community Access channels are a MUST CARRY. Do you really think the cable companies want to devote channels to that crap? So, Time Warner certainly doesn't get the blame for community access -- blame the politicians across the country for forcing them to devote these channels exclusively to "community service".
> >
> Community Access channels are a MUST CARRY. Do you really
> think the cable companies want to devote channels to that
> crap? So, Time Warner certainly doesn't get the blame for
> community access -- blame the politicians across the country
> for forcing them to devote these channels exclusively to
> "community service".
>
I don't know if the Austin Music Network is still on over there... but being in Houston I would pay $5.00 a month for that on my digital cable here if I could get it. I used to love watching it when I went there. Is it considered a "public access" channel?<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by whatever2000 on 03/16/06 06:57 PM.</FONT></P>
> Community Access channels are a MUST CARRY. Do you really
> think the cable companies want to devote channels to that
> crap? So, Time Warner certainly doesn't get the blame for
> community access -- blame the politicians across the country
> for forcing them to devote these channels exclusively to
> "community service".
>
I don't know if the Austin Music Network is still on over there... but being in Houston I would pay $5.00 a month for that on my digital cable here if I could get it. I used to love watching it when I went there. Is it considered a "public access" channel?<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by whatever2000 on 03/16/06 06:57 PM.</FONT></P>
> > Time Warner is dropping GSN entirely in Austin, effective
> 2
> > May.
> >
> > Somehow I doubt these types of moves are intended to
> > "enhance the overall value" of anything except Time
> Warner's
> > pocketbook.
> >
> > Of course, in Austin, if Time Warner wanted to enhance the
>
> > value of anything, they'd let me order a la carte, so I
> > could get rid of the community access channels, which add
> no
> > value.
> >
> Community Access channels are a MUST CARRY. Do you really
> think the cable companies want to devote channels to that
> crap? So, Time Warner certainly doesn't get the blame for
> community access -- blame the politicians across the country
> for forcing them to devote these channels exclusively to
> "community service".
>
Hey,hold on the hoss,one thing i'll give TW-Austin is that they run some interesting stuff on community access,compaired to the crap DCTV runs here in the Dallas area. At least they have a decent local cable news channel (News 8 Austin), unlike this area, which cant seem to even get on the same page when it comes to community.
> 2
> > May.
> >
> > Somehow I doubt these types of moves are intended to
> > "enhance the overall value" of anything except Time
> Warner's
> > pocketbook.
> >
> > Of course, in Austin, if Time Warner wanted to enhance the
>
> > value of anything, they'd let me order a la carte, so I
> > could get rid of the community access channels, which add
> no
> > value.
> >
> Community Access channels are a MUST CARRY. Do you really
> think the cable companies want to devote channels to that
> crap? So, Time Warner certainly doesn't get the blame for
> community access -- blame the politicians across the country
> for forcing them to devote these channels exclusively to
> "community service".
>
Hey,hold on the hoss,one thing i'll give TW-Austin is that they run some interesting stuff on community access,compaired to the crap DCTV runs here in the Dallas area. At least they have a decent local cable news channel (News 8 Austin), unlike this area, which cant seem to even get on the same page when it comes to community.
D
DXER1
Guest
> > >
> > Community Access channels are a MUST CARRY. Do you really
>
> > think the cable companies want to devote channels to that
> > crap? So, Time Warner certainly doesn't get the blame for
>
> > community access -- blame the politicians across the
> country
> > for forcing them to devote these channels exclusively to
> > "community service".
> >
>
> I don't know if the Austin Music Network is still on over
> there... but being in Houston I would pay $5.00 a month for
> that on my digital cable here if I could get it. I used to
> love watching it when I went there. Is it considered a
> "public access" channel?
>
I hope that Time Warner doesn't screw things up here in Dallas when they take over Comcast. TW and KIII 3 (ABC) out of Corpus Christi have had several fights. <P ID="signature">______________
"I'm a gonna go to hell when I die!" Connan O'Brien
"yay boo, yay boo, it's lots of fun to do, if ya like it holler yay, and if ya don't ya holler boo!"
Connan O'Brien
</P>
> > Community Access channels are a MUST CARRY. Do you really
>
> > think the cable companies want to devote channels to that
> > crap? So, Time Warner certainly doesn't get the blame for
>
> > community access -- blame the politicians across the
> country
> > for forcing them to devote these channels exclusively to
> > "community service".
> >
>
> I don't know if the Austin Music Network is still on over
> there... but being in Houston I would pay $5.00 a month for
> that on my digital cable here if I could get it. I used to
> love watching it when I went there. Is it considered a
> "public access" channel?
>
I hope that Time Warner doesn't screw things up here in Dallas when they take over Comcast. TW and KIII 3 (ABC) out of Corpus Christi have had several fights. <P ID="signature">______________
"I'm a gonna go to hell when I die!" Connan O'Brien
"yay boo, yay boo, it's lots of fun to do, if ya like it holler yay, and if ya don't ya holler boo!"
Connan O'Brien
</P>
> > > >
> > > Community Access channels are a MUST CARRY. Do you
> really
> >
> > > think the cable companies want to devote channels to
> that
> > > crap? So, Time Warner certainly doesn't get the blame
> for
> >
> > > community access -- blame the politicians across the
> > country
> > > for forcing them to devote these channels exclusively to
>
> > > "community service".
> > >
> >
> > I don't know if the Austin Music Network is still on over
> > there... but being in Houston I would pay $5.00 a month
> for
> > that on my digital cable here if I could get it. I used to
>
> > love watching it when I went there. Is it considered a
> > "public access" channel?
> >
> I hope that Time Warner doesn't screw things up here in
> Dallas when they take over Comcast. TW and KIII 3 (ABC) out
> of Corpus Christi have had several fights.
>
Heres responses to both your comments:
A) AMN is no longer on the air due to another local station (ran by TW-A/AMP) called ME Television(www.metelevision.com) taking over. Its not as "local"(read: low rent) as AMN, but its a work in progress that sports higher production quality and better coverage of the local music scene.
B) The KIII fight was mainly caused by station managment, who demanded TW-CC give out free cable boxes to pretty much anyone who asked for one. As a business decision, I have to side with TW. They offered to provide boxes for folks who normally couldnt afford cable (elderly) but KIII managment pushed the issue too far, and TW rightly switched to the Victoria ABC affiliate. I dont think Belo would be stupid enough to pull the same move in the dallas market.
> > > Community Access channels are a MUST CARRY. Do you
> really
> >
> > > think the cable companies want to devote channels to
> that
> > > crap? So, Time Warner certainly doesn't get the blame
> for
> >
> > > community access -- blame the politicians across the
> > country
> > > for forcing them to devote these channels exclusively to
>
> > > "community service".
> > >
> >
> > I don't know if the Austin Music Network is still on over
> > there... but being in Houston I would pay $5.00 a month
> for
> > that on my digital cable here if I could get it. I used to
>
> > love watching it when I went there. Is it considered a
> > "public access" channel?
> >
> I hope that Time Warner doesn't screw things up here in
> Dallas when they take over Comcast. TW and KIII 3 (ABC) out
> of Corpus Christi have had several fights.
>
Heres responses to both your comments:
A) AMN is no longer on the air due to another local station (ran by TW-A/AMP) called ME Television(www.metelevision.com) taking over. Its not as "local"(read: low rent) as AMN, but its a work in progress that sports higher production quality and better coverage of the local music scene.
B) The KIII fight was mainly caused by station managment, who demanded TW-CC give out free cable boxes to pretty much anyone who asked for one. As a business decision, I have to side with TW. They offered to provide boxes for folks who normally couldnt afford cable (elderly) but KIII managment pushed the issue too far, and TW rightly switched to the Victoria ABC affiliate. I dont think Belo would be stupid enough to pull the same move in the dallas market.
M
Mediafrog
Guest
> Per latest Time Warner Houston statement: Beginning
> 3/31/06, American Life (formerly
> Good Life TV) (ch 396) will no longer be available.
The only thing worth watching on American Life was the Color Honeymooners. Everything else was pretty forgettable. The channel reminds me of one of those bottom feeder networks distributed on LPTV.
> These changes will accommodate future programming additions
> designed to enhance the overall value of your Digital Cable
> package.
Translation: We're dumping those channels to clear bandwidth for something else that people might be more likely to watch.
Cable systems will have much more channel capacity when they are able to discontinue the "basic analog" lineup, which in TWC Houston's case takes up 444 MHz of bandwidth. That same bandwidth could be used for perhaps 400 digital SD channels, or well over 100 HD.
> 3/31/06, American Life (formerly
> Good Life TV) (ch 396) will no longer be available.
The only thing worth watching on American Life was the Color Honeymooners. Everything else was pretty forgettable. The channel reminds me of one of those bottom feeder networks distributed on LPTV.
> These changes will accommodate future programming additions
> designed to enhance the overall value of your Digital Cable
> package.
Translation: We're dumping those channels to clear bandwidth for something else that people might be more likely to watch.
Cable systems will have much more channel capacity when they are able to discontinue the "basic analog" lineup, which in TWC Houston's case takes up 444 MHz of bandwidth. That same bandwidth could be used for perhaps 400 digital SD channels, or well over 100 HD.
> > Per latest Time Warner Houston statement: Beginning
> > 3/31/06, American Life (formerly
> > Good Life TV) (ch 396) will no longer be available.
>
> The only thing worth watching on American Life was the Color
> Honeymooners. Everything else was pretty forgettable. The
> channel reminds me of one of those bottom feeder networks
> distributed on LPTV.
>
> > These changes will accommodate future programming
> additions
> > designed to enhance the overall value of your Digital
> Cable
> > package.
>
> Translation: We're dumping those channels to clear bandwidth
> for something else that people might be more likely to
> watch.
>
> Cable systems will have much more channel capacity when they
> are able to discontinue the "basic analog" lineup, which in
> TWC Houston's case takes up 444 MHz of bandwidth. That same
> bandwidth could be used for perhaps 400 digital SD channels,
> or well over 100 HD.
>
When is the target date for a total throw out of regular analog cable..is it around the same "timeframe" the govts been hemhawing about the rollover to non-cable OTA HD?
> > 3/31/06, American Life (formerly
> > Good Life TV) (ch 396) will no longer be available.
>
> The only thing worth watching on American Life was the Color
> Honeymooners. Everything else was pretty forgettable. The
> channel reminds me of one of those bottom feeder networks
> distributed on LPTV.
>
> > These changes will accommodate future programming
> additions
> > designed to enhance the overall value of your Digital
> Cable
> > package.
>
> Translation: We're dumping those channels to clear bandwidth
> for something else that people might be more likely to
> watch.
>
> Cable systems will have much more channel capacity when they
> are able to discontinue the "basic analog" lineup, which in
> TWC Houston's case takes up 444 MHz of bandwidth. That same
> bandwidth could be used for perhaps 400 digital SD channels,
> or well over 100 HD.
>
When is the target date for a total throw out of regular analog cable..is it around the same "timeframe" the govts been hemhawing about the rollover to non-cable OTA HD?
> When is the target date for a total throw out of regular
> analog cable..is it around the same "timeframe" the govts
> been hemhawing about the rollover to non-cable OTA HD?
>
So far, there are no plans to discontinue analog cable. The digital plans apply only to full-powered OTA TV.
> analog cable..is it around the same "timeframe" the govts
> been hemhawing about the rollover to non-cable OTA HD?
>
So far, there are no plans to discontinue analog cable. The digital plans apply only to full-powered OTA TV.
M
Mediafrog
Guest
> So far, there are no plans to discontinue analog cable.
True, but it will eventually happen. After next year, all TV's sold will be digital capable. The number of existing analog sets will decrease as they reach the end of their service lives. At some point that number will fall below a critical mass, and the cable companies will push for a change in the rules.
I've heard that the average service life of a TV set is eight years, so that might give some idea of the time frame here--perhaps 2015 as a drop dead date for analog cable?
True, but it will eventually happen. After next year, all TV's sold will be digital capable. The number of existing analog sets will decrease as they reach the end of their service lives. At some point that number will fall below a critical mass, and the cable companies will push for a change in the rules.
I've heard that the average service life of a TV set is eight years, so that might give some idea of the time frame here--perhaps 2015 as a drop dead date for analog cable?
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