• Get involved.
    We want your input!
    Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.

    After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
    If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.

    After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/

    Thanks in advance and have fun!
    RadioDiscussions Administrators

TJ 98.7

MassMusicMan said:
I'm far more surprised that the FCC allocated the same frequency for translators in both Springfield and Rutland.
Click to expand...
The FCC doesn't "allocate" translator frequencies. Stations use consulting engineers like me to locate frequencies where a translator can be sited. As long as I can make it fit and comply with all the relevant spacing rules in Part 74, the FCC will grant it.
 
fybush said:
The FCC doesn't "allocate" translator frequencies. Stations use consulting engineers like me to locate frequencies where a translator can be sited. As long as I can make it fit and comply with all the relevant spacing rules in Part 74, the FCC will grant it.
Click to expand...

That sounds like a pretty poor set of rules, then. Rutland and Randolph are 40 miles apart, and the same frequency is in use in both places.
 
Mass Music Man, go look up the spacing requirements at fcc.gov and search Rules, Part 74. I know our translator at 250 watts at 455 feet HAAT gets out 12 miles. So we would be fine with another translator on the same frequency 40 miles away.
 
b-turner said:
Mass Music Man, go look up the spacing requirements at fcc.gov and search Rules, Part 74. I know our translator at 250 watts at 455 feet HAAT gets out 12 miles. So we would be fine with another translator on the same frequency 40 miles away.
Click to expand...

Until that translator sends a signal 28.1 miles in your direction. Or exists in your market for any reason, for that matter.

In the real example that I cited, both signals are in the same Nielsen TSA market. The Rutland signal (owned by my trash-ass former employer) gets jammed by the Royalton signal in Killington, which is where some of the market's most affluent residents live, and the Rutland signal existed first. I'd throw a fit if FCC regulations permitted that. In fact, I have to wonder why the FCC exists at all if those things are allowed to happen.
 
MassMusicMan said:
Until that translator sends a signal 28.1 miles in your direction. Or exists in your market for any reason, for that matter.

In the real example that I cited, both signals are in the same Nielsen TSA market. The Rutland signal (owned by my trash-ass former employer) gets jammed by the Royalton signal in Killington, which is where some of the market's most affluent residents live, and the Rutland signal existed first. I'd throw a fit if FCC regulations permitted that. In fact, I have to wonder why the FCC exists at all if those things are allowed to happen.
Click to expand...
Why don’t you make recordings and submit them to the FCC?
 
MassMusicMan, contact the station that is getting interfered with and file a complaint in writing. Interference complaints must be backed up by actual listeners in the 60 dbu area that listen. The size of the market determines how many complaints must be filed.
 
b-turner said:
MassMusicMan, contact the station that is getting interfered with and file a complaint in writing. Interference complaints must be backed up by actual listeners in the 60 dbu area that listen. The size of the market determines how many complaints must be filed.
Click to expand...
He worked for the station's owner, whom he calls "trash-ass." What makes you think that owner wants to hear from him again?
 
MassMusicMan said:
Until that translator sends a signal 28.1 miles in your direction. Or exists in your market for any reason, for that matter.

In the real example that I cited, both signals are in the same Nielsen TSA market. The Rutland signal (owned by my trash-ass former employer) gets jammed by the Royalton signal in Killington, which is where some of the market's most affluent residents live, and the Rutland signal existed first. I'd throw a fit if FCC regulations permitted that. In fact, I have to wonder why the FCC exists at all if those things are allowed to happen.
Click to expand...
The technical rules do not take in any account for the Metro Survey Areas of any market. One is marketing, the other is engineering. There are many cases of multiple translators all in the same MSA.
 
DavidEduardo said:
No they don't. I cringe when I hear him (one or two songs are exceptions) and consciously avoid his music. In the Palm Springs market, where there is not just a main road named Frank Sinatra Drive, there are restaurants and bars that play his songs incessantly. I ignore the street name, and avoid the restaurants.
Click to expand...
Although she was Italian. My Mother didn’t like him. She loved Johnny Mathis 😊
 
DavidEduardo said:
The technical rules do not take in any account for the Metro Survey Areas of any market. One is marketing, the other is engineering. There are many cases of multiple translators all in the same MSA.
Click to expand...
I should have also mentioned that the FCC does not license stations to "markets" but to specific cities, towns and communities.
 
MassMusicMan said:
Oh, for sure...but it still appears that the FCC isn't reading maps when making decisions.
Click to expand...
They look at predicted contours of each station or application. In that stage, they are not looking at the political boundaries of cities but at coverage of an area.
 
One has to ask how long until the station sells. IMHO it shouldn't be that hard to sell a station that covers the #1 market if offered at a reasonable price. Are there any "local" commercials yet? Sometimes you have to cut your losses and move on.
 
Status
This thread has been closed due to inactivity. You can create a new thread to discuss this topic.


Back
Top Bottom