Tonight possibly back to 90 minutes in 2015

[TVCOOL]

I think after Tonight airs (providing NBC gives back 10pm ET/PT to their stations and airs it at 11:05pm ET and extends it to 90 minutes in 2015) ,NBC will give 1:05-7am back to the stations this will work out well.

 

[bpatrick]

While I sometimes wonder why ABC, CBS, and NBC haven't
followed Fox's lead and given 10 PM (ET) back to the affiliates,
I don't know if it's necessary if the Tonight Show goes back to
90 minutes. After all, NBC doesn't give back 10 PM on Saturday
nights; "Saturday Night Live" starts at (actually) 11:29 PM and
runs until 1:02 AM. So why couldn't the Tonight Show run from
11:35-1:05, and NBC could still give 1:05-7 AM back to the affiliates
(of course that raises the question of what happens to "Early Today")?

 

[justpassingthough]

To add to the story, "Tonight" is allegedly headed back to New York and 30 Rock, where it began, according to NBC executives who are working towards a deal for Jimmy Fallon:

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/report-jimmy-fallon-replace-jay-leno-tonight-show-200700696.html

Not included in this information is any expansion beyond the current hour-long format currently in place.

Personally, I think its a big mistake to move this institution back to New York, because they will lose some of the edge they have in booking Hollywood-centric guests on the show, and Jimmy may need all the big names he can get when/if he takes over for Jay. Conan doesn't seem to have lost any steam with doing his show from Los Angeles, but at least he doesn't have to deal with the East Coast winters (I'm speaking here as a lifelong Angeleno, so I'm biased)

 

[Fenway1912]

To add to the story, "Tonight" is allegedly headed back to New York and 30 Rock, where it began, according to NBC executives who are working towards a deal for Jimmy Fallon:

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/report-jimmy-fallon-replace-jay-leno-tonight-show-200700696.html

Not included in this information is any expansion beyond the current hour-long format currently in place.

Personally, I think its a big mistake to move this institution back to New York, because they will lose some of the edge they have in booking Hollywood-centric guests on the show, and Jimmy may need all the big names he can get when/if he takes over for Jay. Conan doesn't seem to have lost any steam with doing his show from Los Angeles, but at least he doesn't have to deal with the East Coast winters (I'm speaking here as a lifelong Angeleno, so I'm biased)

I think NBC is betting Letterman retires.

When that happens what does CBS do?

 

[EricStein]

To add to the story, "Tonight" is allegedly headed back to New York and 30 Rock, where it began, according to NBC executives who are working towards a deal for Jimmy Fallon:

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/report-jimmy-fallon-replace-jay-leno-tonight-show-200700696.html

Not included in this information is any expansion beyond the current hour-long format currently in place.

Personally, I think its a big mistake to move this institution back to New York, because they will lose some of the edge they have in booking Hollywood-centric guests on the show, and Jimmy may need all the big names he can get when/if he takes over for Jay. Conan doesn't seem to have lost any steam with doing his show from Los Angeles, but at least he doesn't have to deal with the East Coast winters (I'm speaking here as a lifelong Angeleno, so I'm biased)

That would be a booking boost for the other "late night Jimmy" - Kimmel, not Fallon.

I think this is the beginning of the end for the traditional late-night talk show. With Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, comedians can instantaneously send their jokes to their followers/fans/friends, rather than wait for someone at 11:35 (10:35 Central/Mountain) to deliver it. Every show's anemic "money demo" numbers are proof.

NBC was in bad shape during the "Leno in Prime Time" debacle. Comcast is really accelerating the once mighty Peacock's ascension into TV oblivion.

 

[F.M.Hertz]

Bad arguments. Letterman has done well in New York for over 30 years. Besides, when stars are promoting movies and TV shows, almost all of their publicity tours have a stop in New York.

Conan O'Brien wanted to stay in New York when he got the "Tonight Show," but NBC insisted that he would do it from L.A. I think that Conan would have been successful in some part to broadcasting from New York.

I think that this is a good move, and might help NBC's ratings fortunes in Late Night. Although Leno is still #1 his numbers aren't that same as they were before he left the first time. Plus, NBC is looking at Jimmy Kimmel's rising numbers at 11:35 and are looking to stop the bleeding.

 

[nomadcowatbk]

While I sometimes wonder why ABC, CBS, and NBC haven't
followed Fox's lead and given 10 PM (ET) back to the affiliates,
I don't know if it's necessary if the Tonight Show goes back to
90 minutes. After all, NBC doesn't give back 10 PM on Saturday
nights; "Saturday Night Live" starts at (actually) 11:29 PM and
runs until 1:02 AM. So why couldn't the Tonight Show run from
11:35-1:05, and NBC could still give 1:05-7 AM back to the affiliates
(of course that raises the question of what happens to "Early Today")?

Why don't they just end programming in the 10PM (9PM central) slot and just begin late night at 11PM (10PM central) to compete with the cable late night shows.

 

[nomadcowatbk]

Conan O'Brien wanted to stay in New York when he got the "Tonight Show," but NBC insisted that he would do it from L.A. I think that Conan would have been successful in some part to broadcasting from New York.

Why didn't TBS move Conan back to New York? Probably because they had space near Wacko, Yacko, and Dot

 

[BD Sullivan]

Bad arguments. Letterman has done well in New York for over 30 years. Besides, when stars are promoting movies and TV shows, almost all of their publicity tours have a stop in New York.

Conan O'Brien wanted to stay in New York when he got the "Tonight Show," but NBC insisted that he would do it from L.A. I think that Conan would have been successful in some part to broadcasting from New York.

I think that this is a good move, and might help NBC's ratings fortunes in Late Night. Although Leno is still #1 his numbers aren't that same as they were before he left the first time. Plus, NBC is looking at Jimmy Kimmel's rising numbers at 11:35 and are looking to stop the bleeding.

They're probably willing to move it back to New York because of the headaches caused by dumping Conan so quickly last time. He AND his entire staff moved out West and then NBC had to pay them ALL off (presumably with a handsome severance package) to avoid even worse PR fallout.

 

[F.M.Hertz]

Another change they should make is to move the show back to 11:30 straight up.

I realize that the affiliates push for the 11:35 start time only 20 years ago in order to sell more spots, but in my opinion, it's a waste. My idea: push the Tonight Show with Fallon back to 11:30 to get a jump on CBS and ABC, and if its 90 minutes, make up the availabities that the affiliates had by giving them an extra block of local time.

 

[Joseph_Gallant]

"We all know nobody with accent is going to get 11:35." Well, explain David Frost who did a show for Westinghouse back in the day.

I don't think any station that carried Group W/Westinghouse's syndicated "David Frost Show" (1969-72) ever aired it at 11:30 at night (ET/PT).

I do know the then-WNEW-5 New York (and probably the other Metromedia independents) aired it in prime-time, but in most cities, it was shown in daytime (usually late afternoon as a lead-in to early-evening local newscasts).

Group W's WBZ-4 Boston aired Frost from 4:30 to 6 P.M. Merv Griffin (who had ended his Group W syndicated show to jump to CBS in mid-1969) had been in the same timeslot on WBZ for the previous three years.

In fact, Frost was Griffin's replacement in the Group W production/syndication lineup, and also replaced Griffin on many of the stations that carried him.

Frost's show ended when Griffin left CBS to return to syndication; many stations that had aired Frost elected to go with Griffin instead. Group W saw the market for Frost dry-up, so Frost was cancelled.

 

[FredLeonard]

"We all know nobody with accent is going to get 11:35." Well, explain David Frost who did a show for Westinghouse back in the day.

I don't think any station that carried Group W/Westinghouse's syndicated "David Frost Show" (1969-72) ever aired it at 11:30 at night (ET/PT).

I do know the then-WNEW-5 New York (and probably the other Metromedia independents) aired it in prime-time, but in most cities, it was shown in daytime (usually late afternoon as a lead-in to early-evening local newscasts).

Group W's WBZ-4 Boston aired Frost from 4:30 to 6 P.M. Merv Griffin (who had ended his Group W syndicated show to jump to CBS in mid-1969) had been in the same timeslot on WBZ for the previous three years.

In fact, Frost was Griffin's replacement in the Group W production/syndication lineup, and also replaced Griffin on many of the stations that carried him.

Frost's show ended when Griffin left CBS to return to syndication; many stations that had aired Frost elected to go with Griffin instead. Group W saw the market for Frost dry-up, so Frost was cancelled.

Before David Frost, Group W syndicated late night shows with Steve Allen (original host of the Tonight Show), and Regis Philbin (yes, the very same). When Group W regained ownership of KYW-TV in 1964, they continued to carry the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and bumped Steve to 1am. At the time, Group W's WJZ in Baltimore, then an ABC affliate, took Steve at 11:30 rather than Les Crane.