Tony Kornheiser - possibly suffering from dementia

[joshzz]

It appears Tony Kornheiser, sports personality for ESPN may be suffering a serious mental problem. I believe it's dementia but whatever it is, I feel sorry for the guy. His remarks were hurtful but in the end, it's possible he may losing control of his vocabulary.

ESPN would be smart to insist that he has a complete battery of tests, such as MRI, etc. In my opinion, its no coincidence that he had two serious, verbal mishaps over a month duration.

Glad to hear what you think! josh :-\

 

[bordeaux]

He's a very replaceable personality. Espn radio upgraded when he left. Certainly in ratings and revenue. Thats just factual. He made no imprint outside of one or two Eastern radio markets. MNF upgraded when he left the broadcast. and PTI was just fine without him a week ago. Count me as one of the people, who dont think cranky and old is the future of media. Plus, ESPN mgmt. is very split on him according to my sources. Which are very solid at that company.

 

[quadraphonic]

It appears Tony Kornheiser, sports personality for ESPN may be suffering a serious mental problem. I believe it's dementia but whatever it is, I feel sorry for the guy. His remarks were hurtful but in the end, it's possible he may losing control of his vocabulary.

ESPN would be smart to insist that he has a complete battery of tests, such as MRI, etc. In my opinion, its no coincidence that he had two serious, verbal mishaps over a month duration.

Glad to hear what you think! josh :-\

If two verbal mishaps in a month makes someone "demented" then this world is full of "demented" people.
The president. The last president. Anyone who speaks in public. Anyone who doesn't speak in public. Anyone who talks to themselves.
All make "serious mishaps." Some people say some people even commit murder with their tongue.

 

[Pratte4Life]

I think people are getting upset at Tony just being Tony.

 

[udfan07]

It's Tony being Tony. The bicycle comment was a joke and anybody who listens to his show knows it.

 

[gshood]

I think it is refreshing to hear an independent personality away from the corporate swag...It's the last of a breed that may be on life support...I can think of Marty Brennaman, Vin Scully, and Bob Uecker as those announcers that have a little freedom to express their opinions.

 

[Nate Wesley]

I think it is refreshing to hear an independent personality away from the corporate swag...It's the last of a breed that may be on life support...I can think of Marty Brennaman, Vin Scully, and Bob Uecker as those announcers that have a little freedom to express their opinions.

There lies the difference between Brennaman, Scully, and Uecker versus Tony Kornheiser: The announcers probably aren't expressing 'opinions' so much as they are noting something that would objectively observable to a lot of people.

Hannah Storm's scandalous, prostitution-like wardrobe choices (per TK's habit of ridiculing other TV personalities clothes, not just that one example) or how all bicyclists are jerks deserving of vehicular harm--those are not what anyone would rationally call objective observations.

 

[Pratte4Life]

I just thought of this.

About 10 years ago when Deion Sanders signed with the Washington Redskins, he wore an all-red suit when his signing was announced.

Kornheiser was at the press conference. He asked Deion about his outfit.

Sanders reacted with something along the lines of "Why do you want to know?"

Tony replied- "I'm the fashion editor of the Washington Post."

To which Sanders replied- "I can tell by what you're wearing you're NOT the fashion editor of the Washington Post."

Okay, what Kornheiser said about Storm was, at its base sense, mean. I don't happen to agree with Tony, I think Hannah Storm is a very beautiful woman and can pull off such an outfit tastefully.


But if we are to censor sports talk show hosts for being critical, we are no longer going to have sports talk shows.

 

[Nate Wesley]

But if we are to censor sports talk show hosts for being critical, we are no longer going to have sports talk shows.

You can be critical without being a jackarse. Being a radio jackarse can certainly be good for ratings, but as many twice-thrice-and-beyond suspended and fired shock jocks have proven, that shtick comes with risks.

 

[Pratte4Life]

True, but since when did Tony Kornheiser become The Greaseman?

 

[Nate Wesley]

True, but since when did Tony Kornheiser become The Greaseman?

My point being, the same mouth that gets you ratings can get you in trouble. If its so worth it to say it, back it up.

 

[quadraphonic]

True, but since when did Tony Kornheiser become The Greaseman?

My point being, the same mouth that gets you ratings can get you in trouble. If its so worth it to say it, back it up.

How is Tony Kornheiser going to back up his opinion on Hannah Storm's get-up?
Punch her in the face? Rip it off and replace it with something more demure?

 

[Nate Wesley]

True, but since when did Tony Kornheiser become The Greaseman?

My point being, the same mouth that gets you ratings can get you in trouble. If its so worth it to say it, back it up.

How is Tony Kornheiser going to back up his opinion on Hannah Storm's get-up?
Punch her in the face? Rip it off and replace it with something more demure?

To your point, Kornheiser could have playfully offered to buy Hannah Storm some new clothes. I'm pretty sure that would have been received more favorably, as opposed to publicly comparing her to a prostitute.

Rush Limbaugh showed just how much of a man he was when he chose to 'resign' from Sunday NFL Countdown rather than defend his statements concerning Donovan McNabb. And he had the nerve to complain about 'you can't say what you want in this country' after the fact.

If Tony Kornheiser believed what he said, then he shouldn't have apologized--even at the behest of ESPN. If they fire you, then they fire you. There are other sports TV and sports radio platforms to work for. Stand by your principles if you claim to have them.

 

[SportsDotCom]

True, but since when did Tony Kornheiser become The Greaseman?

My point being, the same mouth that gets you ratings can get you in trouble. If its so worth it to say it, back it up.

How is Tony Kornheiser going to back up his opinion on Hannah Storm's get-up?
Punch her in the face? Rip it off and replace it with something more demure?

Easy for you to say when it's not your 7 figure salary

To your point, Kornheiser could have playfully offered to buy Hannah Storm some new clothes. I'm pretty sure that would have been received more favorably, as opposed to publicly comparing her to a prostitute.

Rush Limbaugh showed just how much of a man he was when he chose to 'resign' from Sunday NFL Countdown rather than defend his statements concerning Donovan McNabb. And he had the nerve to complain about 'you can't say what you want in this country' after the fact.

If Tony Kornheiser believed what he said, then he shouldn't have apologized--even at the behest of ESPN. If they fire you, then they fire you. There are other sports TV and sports radio platforms to work for. Stand by your principles if you claim to have them.

 

[quadraphonic]

True, but since when did Tony Kornheiser become The Greaseman?

My point being, the same mouth that gets you ratings can get you in trouble. If its so worth it to say it, back it up.

How is Tony Kornheiser going to back up his opinion on Hannah Storm's get-up?
Punch her in the face? Rip it off and replace it with something more demure?

To your point, Kornheiser could have playfully offered to buy Hannah Storm some new clothes. I'm pretty sure that would have been received more favorably, as opposed to publicly comparing her to a prostitute.

I dunno man, I don't see Kornheiser offering to be a personal shopper.
It was just a quick comment he thought might be funny. Probably not even an "opinion" just something he decided to say, trying to be funny. Most of the time it works for him, sometimes it don't.

Rush Limbaugh showed just how much of a man he was when he chose to 'resign' from Sunday NFL Countdown rather than defend his statements concerning Donovan McNabb. And he had the nerve to complain about 'you can't say what you want in this country' after the fact.

Limbaugh's statement was waaay more about the media and what they wanted. He's never really gotten along with the media, has he? He's focused more on the media, especially back then, than anything racial.
Shoot, even Iggles fans seem to have some trouble believing McNabb's been "successful" and hasn't been kind of propped up by something beyond his skill level. They let him go to the Skins, without much in return.

If Tony Kornheiser believed what he said, then he shouldn't have apologized--even at the behest of ESPN. If they fire you, then they fire you. There are other sports TV and sports radio platforms to work for. Stand by your principles if you claim to have them.

I'm pretty sure Kornheiser didn't expect people to take his comments as seriously as they did. It wasn't a matter of "principle" it was a matter of he just ran his mouth too far and got caught up by people who want to be offended. Probably if the girls from "The View" said the same thing, it would've been okay. Overall, it wasn't a deeply-held, considered, thought-out belief he's been holding back on discussing for years. It was something he blurted out, basically. So he apologized. Most people would, too. Not apologizing for his mistake would kinda make him look dogmatic, megalomaniacal, inflexible, insecure, and/or crazy.

 

[Nate Wesley]

Limbaugh's statement was waaay more about the media and what they wanted. He's never really gotten along with the media, has he? He's focused more on the media, especially back then, than anything racial.

Where were the examples of media bias in favor of McNabb? Certainly Limbaugh could point to some...but he didn't. El Rushbo didn't just do what he often accuses his critics of (racial baiting), but he pointed toward a false boogeyman in the room without proof of its existence.

Limbaugh's never been one to shy away from his public statements before--why this one particular time? Hmmm...

I'm pretty sure Kornheiser didn't expect people to take his comments as seriously as they did.

Correction: Kornheiser didn't expect his primary employer or America's most famous bicyclist to catch wind of these statements and take them seriously.

It wasn't a matter of "principle" it was a matter of he just ran his mouth too far and got caught up by people who want to be offended.

I know of a few folks who like being entertained. Who are these mythical people you know of that want to be offended?

Overall, it wasn't a deeply-held, considered, thought-out belief he's been holding back on discussing for years. It was something he blurted out, basically. So he apologized. Most people would, too. Not apologizing for his mistake would kinda make him look dogmatic, megalomaniacal, inflexible, insecure, and/or crazy.

Thinking before speaking. That's crazy enough to work.

 

[quadraphonic]

Where were the examples of media bias in favor of McNabb? Certainly Limbaugh could point to some...but he didn't. El Rushbo didn't just do what he often accuses his critics of (racial baiting), but he pointed toward a false boogeyman in the room without proof of its existence.
Limbaugh's never been one to shy away from his public statements before--why this one particular time? Hmmm...

He didn't seem to have much choice and didn't get a lot of time on-air to discuss his opinions, because all the rigamarole started after the broadcast, when "it hit the fan" not while he was still making the statements.

Correction: Kornheiser didn't expect his primary employer or America's most famous bicyclist to catch wind of these statements and take them seriously.

Yeh. Those were some of the people.

I know of a few folks who like being entertained. Who are these mythical people you know of that want to be offended?

"Mythical?" Hardly. Those people exist. They're all over the internets. The handwringers. The people who are looking for every boogeyman they can blow out of proportion to bring someone else down, since being p.c. and manufacturing outrage is about all they got.

Thinking before speaking. That's crazy enough to work.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes nothing qualifies as "enough."

 

[Pratte4Life]

True, but since when did Tony Kornheiser become The Greaseman?

My point being, the same mouth that gets you ratings can get you in trouble. If its so worth it to say it, back it up.

How is Tony Kornheiser going to back up his opinion on Hannah Storm's get-up?
Punch her in the face? Rip it off and replace it with something more demure?

To your point, Kornheiser could have playfully offered to buy Hannah Storm some new clothes. I'm pretty sure that would have been received more favorably, as opposed to publicly comparing her to a prostitute.

Rush Limbaugh showed just how much of a man he was when he chose to 'resign' from Sunday NFL Countdown rather than defend his statements concerning Donovan McNabb. And he had the nerve to complain about 'you can't say what you want in this country' after the fact.

If Tony Kornheiser believed what he said, then he shouldn't have apologized--even at the behest of ESPN. If they fire you, then they fire you. There are other sports TV and sports radio platforms to work for. Stand by your principles if you claim to have them.

Rush was witch hunted. He has addressed the incident on his show, not with the media that would twist what he said around just as they did here.

 

[Nate Wesley]

"Mythical?" Hardly. Those people exist. They're all over the internets. The handwringers. The people who are looking for every boogeyman they can blow out of proportion to bring someone else down, since being p.c. and manufacturing outrage is about all they got.

Name a few.

 

[Nate Wesley]

Rush was witch hunted. He has addressed the incident on his show, not with the media that would twist what he said around just as they did here.

Yes, Rush was afraid that the liberal sports media (that group he can't/won't prove exists) would twist what he said.

Change the 'w' in witch to a 'b', and you might be onto something.