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Top 40 Ignoring Ella Langley

All I can figure is programmers are trying to produce less "collisions" in their playlists. The stations that "flow" better from song to song tend to have better ratings, so they probably stick to only things with pop textures in it. The stations that have tonally "collisions" don't do as well in the ratings I think.
 
Whatever.

Anyway, a Langley-Wallen duet, "I Can't Love You Anymore" is due to drop this Friday. Low-quality fan recordings of a live performance by them are all over YouTube right now, but who knows for how long? The sound is so muddy that I can't make out the lyrics, but melodically it sounds a lot like Fleetwood Mac's "Dreams." Can't say that I'm blown away by it, but given who's on it, I imagine it will be a solid crossover hit, maybe bigger pop than country.

TheBigA: Do you know which label is handling this collaboration?
 
Stations and labels don’t do research on brand new songs. Over the years, the music industry has tried to come up with a way to research new songs to determine which ones to release and promote… with no success. Stations generally do not do the present day equivalent of “call out” until a song has been on the air several weeks and been played a certain minimum number of times.

Everyone, from label to station, flies blind upon the original release. Even the sources that show online use can’t tell who is listening with needed precision.

On the other hand, after 7 weeks of online exposure, a station can test against its own listeners. Even if a song has big stream counts, that does not mean your listeners care about it.

In some cases, a PD will go by the axiom that “what you don’t play won’t hurt you” and skip a song. You can always play it later, but nobody tunes out over a song you don’t play.
Thanks David, I appreciate your wisdom. Didn’t realize that there wasn’t much research into what to add and what not to. I assumed there would be. I guess that research is more for gold-based formats, then?

The whole “what you play won’t hurt you” is great unless I’m tuning in to hear the hits and the hits aren’t playing. Then I’ll just go elsewhere to hear the hits. Like Spotify or Apple Music, where I can hear them, and without commercials, too.
 
I guess that research is more for gold-based formats, then?
Not really. Research is utilized more by current-based formats, because those currents are changing at least on a weekly basis. A programmer will use metrics like streaming, artists' past performance, or success on other stations to put a song on the playlist. Once that song has gotten enough airplay, it will go into research (usually a limited number of songs from two to three dozen) to determine if it should be played more or less, and that will change as a song matures as each song has a unique lifespan.
Gold formats may do a broad library test of hundreds of songs on an annual basis to determine what to play, but they do not do the same kind of frequent research that current stations employ. And most stations do not have research to begin with, or in many cases these resources are pooled on a multi-station or even companywide basis... research is NOT cheap.
 
A programmer will use metrics like streaming, artists' past performance, or success on other stations to put a song on the playlist. Once that song has gotten enough airplay, it will go into research

This song was released in October, so the research is available. It tests well with young women. The problem I see is CHR radio is now shifted to women over 30. So I guess that has affected the song. But I'm starting to see that country radio playing Ella Langley and a few others is affecting radio demographics. For example, WXTU is now #1 18-34 in Philadelphia. I'm sure there are others around the country.
 
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I'm not sure who this Mason person is, but it doesn't look like he has a very big show. He has some relationship with John Garribidean who used to host Open house party, but that show's very scarce too.
 
This song was released in October, so the research is available. It tests well with young women. The problem I see is CHR radio is now shifted to women over 30. So I guess that has affected the song. But I'm starting to see that country radio playing Ella Langley and a few others is affecting radio demographics. For example, WXTU is now #1 18-34 in Philadelphia. I'm sure there are others around the country.
In Kansas City, our CHR Mix 93.3 has a 6.7 in the 6+ (I'm sure key demos, they are doing great). They seem to be extremely cautious with new adds, so that might be a blueprint to the other CHRs in the country to be cautious.
 
In Kansas City, our CHR Mix 93.3 has a 6.7 in the 6+ (I'm sure key demos, they are doing great). They seem to be extremely cautious with new adds, so that might be a blueprint to the other CHRs in the country to be cautious.
A lot of KC stations have generally not had a lot of new adds, at least the ones I listen to. When 96.5 was Alt, it rarely added new stuff. The market/audience has always seemed very staid. Going back to Mix, look how long Rocket and Theresa have been on that station.
 
A lot of KC stations have generally not had a lot of new adds, at least the ones I listen to. When 96.5 was Alt, it rarely added new stuff. The market/audience has always seemed very staid. Going back to Mix, look how long Rocket and Theresa have been on that station.
There was one brief period of time right when Steel City took over, Mix started having a cutting edge/rhythmic CHR sound around October 2014-June 2015. During that period, that's when Hood Go Crazy by Tech N9ne was powered (though he's local-they fit their "sound" around it during this period.) But that didn't last. The buzz added a lot, when they were "alt"...not so much.
 
There was one brief period of time right when Steel City took over, Mix started having a cutting edge/rhythmic CHR sound around October 2014-June 2015. During that period, that's when Hood Go Crazy by Tech N9ne was powered (though he's local-they fit their "sound" around it during this period.) But that didn't last. The buzz added a lot, when they were "alt"...not so much.
Tech N9ne was going to be at KPRS when I was there but I missed him. I heard he’s a nice guy! I think The Buzz was the first station where I heard The Get Up Kids.
 
Tech N9ne was going to be at KPRS when I was there but I missed him. I heard he’s a nice guy! I think The Buzz was the first station where I heard The Get Up Kids.
Just because I remember them spinning that track so much, I knew that mini era wasn't a "dream." Yes, the Buzz had a wide sound, but was flattened during the "alt" era.
 
Country music has a long history of being a resting home to washed up or failed pop/rock artists. Jerry Lee Lewis, Conway Twitty, Darius Rucker, Jelly Roll and to a lesser extent artists like Sheryl Crow and Kid Rock have tried moving into the country world when the hits stopped on the pop/rock charts.
We all know Shaboozey, Kane Brown, and Hardy aren't making any resemblance of country music. It's a case of "big fish in a little pond for them." They don't necessarily want to be considered "country artists" but can't or wouldn't be able to make it in the pop world.
Jelly Roll to me, is a Contemporary Christian artist who belongs on KLOVE
God, I Need a Favor wouldn't fly on K-Love
 
A lot of KC stations have generally not had a lot of new adds, at least the ones I listen to. When 96.5 was Alt, it rarely added new stuff. The market/audience has always seemed very staid. Going back to Mix, look how long Rocket and Theresa have been on that station.
When K-104.7 in Charlotte was AC the man in charge said, "We don't make the hits. we play the hits." Even then, there were very few songs from this century. Now there aren't any, but a competing site which posts Nielsen ratings hasn't gotten the message.
 
Sent only to country radio?

Only country radio is playing it.


 
This song was released in October, so the research is available. It tests well with young women. The problem I see is CHR radio is now shifted to women over 30. So I guess that has affected the song. But I'm starting to see that country radio playing Ella Langley and a few others is affecting radio demographics. For example, WXTU is now #1 18-34 in Philadelphia. I'm sure there are others around the country.
Yeah, I'd think that song would test well with young women and maybe not as well with young men. I'm also not thinking "Choosin' Texas" would have the same appeal as, say, that Bruno Mars/Lady Gaga tune "Die With a Smile" for women 30+. Interesting regarding the shift of CHR to women 30+.
 


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