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Top 40 Radio Back in the Day, circa 1985

While searching the internet last night, I came across 2 old playlists for both WZOU and WHTT for the same week of November back in 1985. I thought it would be interesting to compare the 2 playlists:

WZOU November 4th, 1985

WHTT November 3rd, 1985

Looking at the 2 playlists, WHTT's list is more appealing to me. This would make sense too as I preferred "Hit Radio" over Z-94 at the time.
 
WOW! :eek: What a find Retro!!!

This brings back A LOT of memories (And has there ever been a cooler LOGO for a Top 40 station?? 8) )

WHTT was, without a doubt, one of the best Top 40 Stations. Ever.

Many, many thanks for this.
 
35, 31, Simple Minds Alive & Kicking

The band is Simple Minda, not Alive & Kicking. The song is "Alive & Kicking."

Retro said:
While searching the internet last night, I came across 2 old playlists for both WZOU and WHTT for the same week of November back in 1985. I thought it would be interesting to compare the 2 playlists:

WZOU November 4th, 1985

WHTT November 3rd, 1985

Looking at the 2 playlists, WHTT's list is more appealing to me. This would make sense too as I preferred "Hit Radio" over Z-94 at the time.
 
That was a terrific year for the format, and that WHTT playlist is awesome.

'Sunset Grill' is the kind of song you don't hear anymore, from my personal choice as the best CD of the decade ('Building The Perfect Beast').

Elton John's 'Wrap Her Up?' I love that song!!!!!
 
(Just an FYI, this topic has already been covered about a year or two ago, I think it's somewhere down the board if you look. In any case, I'll repeat what wrote back then about what I remember from WHTT vs. Kiss108 vs. WZOU)

Back in the early 80's when I was a tween (about 10-14ish), FM radio in Boston really began to get my attention! There was Kiss, with a very heavy disco sound, with the WVBF's and WROR's in some other category, not quite WSSH or Magic, but not exactly fresh either, and then there was WHTT. HitRadio103, WHTT was the station all my peers listened to. I used to record songs off WHTT, keeping the pause button down on our Emerson stereo to keep out the elements, and then recorded the songs I liked together on a Centron C-60 (those white with orange cassettes you got from F. W. Woolworth). (These days, I wished I hadn't cut out elements, but I digress). Between 1983 and 1986, I listened to A LOT of WHTT! It was the station that had Michael Jackson's Thriller, Madonna, Men Without Hats, and Cyndi Lauper. There was never any question what the hottest songs were, because that is what WHTT was playing. WHTT was the happening thing, lots of energy, and everyone sounded like they were at a big party. Heavy on the reverb, and of course a top of the hour jingle I.D., complete with the DJ intro in front. The TV ads which ran showed a big lightening bolt, and emphasized "Power 103, WHTT." I think there's one somewhere on YouTube. Suffice it to say that WHTT was THE station of record.

Meanwhile, Kiss had their stickers everywhere, with their black background, pink lipstick and big lips, but at that point, they didn't register for me because they seemed to radical, too extreme. And, of course, there was WZOU "The Zoo," which at the time had visibility, (it's where Live on 4's Judy Paparelli went), but also didn't register, because they just didn't seem interesting (and not at all like Top 40).

Then came Summer 1986. That Spring I went away to Maine for summer camp. When I got back in August, I noticed this big dark blue and green sign just before we crossed over the Tobin on I-93 South: "The New Q103, Boston's Quality Rock." What was that? How were they on the air next to WHTT? What I realized later is they had flipped to this new station, which also was very uninteresting. It wasn't even really rock (that might have been ok, even WBCN was more entertaining than WMRQ).

That fall I leared to adjust my listening habits. "The Zoo" was now "Z-94," (or sometimes, they called themselves "Z-O-U") and they seemed to have taken over the same kind of wall-to-wall Hits format that WHTT had. Kiss 108 had also jumped in to take over from HTT's audience, and this created a true war that lasted until after I left in 1988. Both Z-94 and Kiss108 were Top 40, but that's where the similarities ended. WZOU abandoned the reverb that WHTT had, but kept the jingle and element heavy attitude. Z94 was a very disciplined format that had a very tight rotation. The Top 10's were repeated every 2 hours, and all 40 every 3 or 4. There were few (if any) "remixes" during the 86-88 era, everything was exactly as released. No backselling at all, no dead-air allowed what-so-ever. And everything was heavily processed (and remained so even after flipping to Jam'n' as I understand it). "The Madam" (Karen Blake) sounded similar to "Lady D" and was the most distinguishable voice on the station.

Kiss 108 took the opposite approach, very light on the jingles (at least initially), heavy remixes (especially after 9pm), cuts-ins througout the day with live events updates. DJ's like Uncle Dale and Lady D frequenly were allowed to mention their mistakes and talk without music beds, and backselling was the rule, not the exception. Everything on WZOU's playlist was on Kiss's, but not everything on Kiss's playlist was on WZOU's.

That last piece was the single biggest difference! You never really knew what Kiss 108 was going to do, they were going to play Top 40, sure... But, they were also going to throw in an Oldie or two, a Disco track, or an old Album Rock song from the 70s. David Bowie and Aerosmith, staples of WBCN also got airplay on Kiss. There were more rap songs, louder rock songs, and processing took a different direction on Kiss! WXKS FM was much dryer and heavier on the base than WZOU's "perfect" processing sound.

Of course these days, it is Kiss that is the so-called "disciplined" CHR, but it is much debated as to whether that's out of program direction or just budget.
 
radiorama1 said:
WOW! :eek: What a find Retro!!!

This brings back A LOT of memories (And has there ever been a cooler LOGO for a Top 40 station?? 8) )

WHTT was, without a doubt, one of the best Top 40 Stations. Ever.

Many, many thanks for this.

Your welcome Radiorama, now this kinda reminds me of the old V66 also.
 
Great post Garret!

Gadon, yes, for about 6 months in 1985 there was WKKT "The Kat." They were Top 40 light and probably a fore-runner to one of the Hot AC radio that ended up becoming popular a few years later. I do not remember any personalities on the station at all.
 
Retro said:
Great post Garret!

Thank you.
I enjoy recalling that experience every single time I write it.
There are some airchecks of both at www.airchexx.com, but they don't really tell the story, imo.

Speaking of V66, I have a bumper sticker sitting right here that somebody sent me!
 
Garrett said:
(Just an FYI, this topic has already been covered about a year or two ago, I think it's somewhere down the board if you look. In any case, I'll repeat what wrote back then about what I remember from WHTT vs. Kiss108 vs. WZOU)

Back in the early 80's when I was a tween (about 10-14ish), FM radio in Boston really began to get my attention! There was Kiss, with a very heavy disco sound, with the WVBF's and WROR's in some other category, not quite WSSH or Magic, but not exactly fresh either, and then there was WHTT. HitRadio103, WHTT was the station all my peers listened to. I used to record songs off WHTT, keeping the pause button down on our Emerson stereo to keep out the elements, and then recorded the songs I liked together on a Centron C-60 (those white with orange cassettes you got from F. W. Woolworth). (These days, I wished I hadn't cut out elements, but I digress). Between 1983 and 1986, I listened to A LOT of WHTT! It was the station that had Michael Jackson's Thriller, Madonna, Men Without Hats, and Cyndi Lauper. There was never any question what the hottest songs were, because that is what WHTT was playing. WHTT was the happening thing, lots of energy, and everyone sounded like they were at a big party. Heavy on the reverb, and of course a top of the hour jingle I.D., complete with the DJ intro in front. The TV ads which ran showed a big lightening bolt, and emphasized "Power 103, WHTT." I think there's one somewhere on YouTube. Suffice it to say that WHTT was THE station of record.

Meanwhile, Kiss had their stickers everywhere, with their black background, pink lipstick and big lips, but at that point, they didn't register for me because they seemed to radical, too extreme. And, of course, there was WZOU "The Zoo," which at the time had visibility, (it's where Live on 4's Judy Paparelli went), but also didn't register, because they just didn't seem interesting (and not at all like Top 40).

Then came Summer 1986. That Spring I went away to Maine for summer camp. When I got back in August, I noticed this big dark blue and green sign just before we crossed over the Tobin on I-93 South: "The New Q103, Boston's Quality Rock." What was that? How were they on the air next to WHTT? What I realized later is they had flipped to this new station, which also was very uninteresting. It wasn't even really rock (that might have been ok, even WBCN was more entertaining than WMRQ).

That fall I leared to adjust my listening habits. "The Zoo" was now "Z-94," (or sometimes, they called themselves "Z-O-U") and they seemed to have taken over the same kind of wall-to-wall Hits format that WHTT had. Kiss 108 had also jumped in to take over from HTT's audience, and this created a true war that lasted until after I left in 1988. Both Z-94 and Kiss108 were Top 40, but that's where the similarities ended. WZOU abandoned the reverb that WHTT had, but kept the jingle and element heavy attitude. Z94 was a very disciplined format that had a very tight rotation. The Top 10's were repeated every 2 hours, and all 40 every 3 or 4. There were few (if any) "remixes" during the 86-88 era, everything was exactly as released. No backselling at all, no dead-air allowed what-so-ever. And everything was heavily processed (and remained so even after flipping to Jam'n' as I understand it). "The Madam" (Karen Blake) sounded similar to "Lady D" and was the most distinguishable voice on the station.

Kiss 108 took the opposite approach, very light on the jingles (at least initially), heavy remixes (especially after 9pm), cuts-ins througout the day with live events updates. DJ's like Uncle Dale and Lady D frequenly were allowed to mention their mistakes and talk without music beds, and backselling was the rule, not the exception. Everything on WZOU's playlist was on Kiss's, but not everything on Kiss's playlist was on WZOU's.

That last piece was the single biggest difference! You never really knew what Kiss 108 was going to do, they were going to play Top 40, sure... But, they were also going to throw in an Oldie or two, a Disco track, or an old Album Rock song from the 70s. David Bowie and Aerosmith, staples of WBCN also got airplay on Kiss. There were more rap songs, louder rock songs, and processing took a different direction on Kiss! WXKS FM was much dryer and heavier on the base than WZOU's "perfect" processing sound.

Of course these days, it is Kiss that is the so-called "disciplined" CHR, but it is much debated as to whether that's out of program direction or just budget.

I'll echo what Retro said here... one of the BEST posts I've read in a long, long time.

Reading that is like hopping in a time machine.

I agree, unless you actually were around back then to experience the Top 40 format at its finest, a one hour aircheck just can not/will not do WHTT justice. Back then, listening to that station meant that you were afraid to turn it off, because you were afraid you might miss out on something.

When was the last time you felt that way about turning off a station nowadays??? ???
 
When WHTT became WMRQ Boston's Quality Rock, I think the format change was on a Sunday Night at midnight..(I grew up in the area). It was a pretty uneventful ending to the WHTT era. Used to be funny when Eddie Andleman would plug WZOU on "The Huddle".. since it was co-owned with WHDH at the time. I have my V66 sitckers somewhere, also vintage Celtics "Sampson is a Sissy" WZOU hold-up poster used during the Celts 1984 run to the championship. Another concoction was WHEB in Portsmouth's "Hit / Rock" hybrid at the time.. WHEB gets into the North Shore by the wattah quite well.. Great topic BTW.. :D
 
When WHTT became WMRQ Boston's Quality Rock, I think the format change was on a Sunday Night at midnight.

Actually it happened around 6 or 7PM on a weeknight. I had tuned in while scanning the dial waiting to hear the next song that they were going to play. At the top of the hour I heard "we are announcing the end of WHTT!" There is an aircheck of it somewhere. Anyway, they ended it by thanking a few people then announced Quality Rock and entered the format with playing "FM No Static" by Steely Dan.



Top 40 radio back then has something that todays CHR's lack. WHTT's original positioner was "playing only the hits!" I used to joke because of their high repetition (which is normal in Top 40 radio) and say "playing only the hit" instead. ;D

The last days of WHTT were not all that great. I loathed them calling themselves Power 103. When they did flip formats, Kiss was still doing their Disco'y Top 40 and Z-94 had announced before that they would go all rock Top 40 instead. There was a concern at the time that Boston would not have any "true" Top 40's at all.

It wasn't until a year later when Kiss hired John McKenna as MD that Kiss became my favorite CHR station. They dropped the remix in-house stuff which I wasn't a fan of and also started adding much more New Wave/pop stuff too. The '87-'90 years were among Kiss's best!

I finally started getting into 'ZOU when they hired Steve Rivers and started playing much more Dance titles. 1990 was a very interesting year in Boston for Top 40 radio!
 
Some great memories were brought back here! I was in Southern NH at this time in the mid-late 80's, so I could also pick up WERZ (the old Z 107 before the flip to a/c), WTHT (102.9), and WWGT (G-98). It was a great time to listen to CHR.
 
Retro said:
When WHTT became WMRQ Boston's Quality Rock, I think the format change was on a Sunday Night at midnight.

Actually it happened around 6 or 7PM on a weeknight. I had tuned in while scanning the dial waiting to hear the next song that they were going to play. At the top of the hour I heard "we are announcing the end of WHTT!" There is an aircheck of it somewhere. Anyway, they ended it by thanking a few people then announced Quality Rock and entered the format with playing "FM No Static" by Steely Dan.



Top 40 radio back then has something that todays CHR's lack. WHTT's original positioner was "playing only the hits!" I used to joke because of their high repetition (which is normal in Top 40 radio) and say "playing only the hit" instead. ;D

The last days of WHTT were not all that great. I loathed them calling themselves Power 103. When they did flip formats, Kiss was still doing their Disco'y Top 40 and Z-94 had announced before that they would go all rock Top 40 instead. There was a concern at the time that Boston would not have any "true" Top 40's at all.

It wasn't until a year later when Kiss hired John McKenna as MD that Kiss became my favorite CHR station. They dropped the remix in-house stuff which I wasn't a fan of and also started adding much more New Wave/pop stuff too. The '87-'90 years were among Kiss's best!

I finally started getting into 'ZOU when they hired Steve Rivers and started playing much more Dance titles. 1990 was a very interesting year in Boston for Top 40 radio!

Wow, if you could find out where that aircheck is posted of HTT flipping to MRQ, I sure would love to hear that! (And also while we're at it, what about 'Hit Radio' flipping to Power ;) )

^ You can find lots of postings for the aircheck of EEI-FM flipping to WHTT... but what about the two I listed above?

I too, remember the repetition on WHTT, but it's funny how HTT's "Hitlists" (that's EXACTLY what they were called), pick 'em up at your favorite MUSICLAND (before Sam Goody's... "they know what's hot!" ) along with your Hit Radio 103.3 BUMPERSTICKER... listed "Boston's Top 50"... but seemed to lean heavily on the upper 25-30 songs on those lists... I bet the songs on the bottom of the list probably saw no more than 5-10 spins a week, tops...

Nowadays, Kiss 108 has their "Top 30" countdown, and even worse, Jamn' has their "Top 20" ... now THAT'S repetition! Yikes! ;)
 
Re: The Flip from WHTT to WMRQ....

Garrett said:
The flip from WEEI to WHTT (From Steve West's Airchexx.com):
http://www.formatchange.com/1033-weei-fm-becomes-hitradio-whtt/

The flip from WHTT to WMRQ (from Peter Q. George's page):
(It's from a geocities page, so i don't know how limited he is on bandwidth):

http://www.geocities.com/radiojunkie1/FormatCh.ra

Full page:
http://www.geocities.com/radiojunkie1/audio.html

Here's Z94, also from airchexx.com (I contributed this one, so I have the unscoped version somewhere, but I got it from someone else):
http://airchexx.com/markets/boston/j-michael-fox-tom-jeffries-on-945-wzou-boston-august-13-1986

WHTT vs. Z94:
http://airchexx.com/markets/boston/quick-composite-wzou-whtt-boston-1985

last but not least, Kiss 108:
http://airchexx.com/markets/boston/composite-wxks-fm-kiss-108-medfordboston-july-17-1984

I have much more that I actually own through trades (all unscoped) but they are in storage. :(
(BigAppleAirchecks.com may have some of them?)
 
This thread sounds like a lot of fun. Too bad I didn't live in Boston until 2003.

Nothing this interesting will ever happen in Boston radio again, not when Kiss considers sweepers telling me to watch something on their website to be interesting radio.
 
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