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TransLanTech Still Around?

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RadioMan203

Along with myself, I had a couple of facilities interested in their processor one being a school and one a soon to be built station. I emailed an inquiry to their sales email address and haven't heard anything back. I'm know they're not anywhere as big as Orban so I would have thought I would have received a reply, but nothing yet.

I'm looking for recommendations of decent, preferably digital pre-processors as I know I can always pick up some Compellors in a pinch and I'm sure there's always folks selling something on the used market.
 
Bill DeFelice said:
Along with myself, I had a couple of facilities interested in their processor one being a school and one a soon to be built station. I emailed an inquiry to their sales email address and haven't heard anything back. I'm know they're not anywhere as big as Orban so I would have thought I would have received a reply, but nothing yet.

I'm looking for recommendations of decent, preferably digital pre-processors as I know I can always pick up some Compellors in a pinch and I'm sure there's always folks selling something on the used market.
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Bill,
Thanks for thinking of us!
As you may have noticed by the ads we run at the top of this page, we ARE still around. ;D

Looks like you letter got caught in our SPAM filter. We're all excited and preoccupied preparing for the annual NAB trek, and while we try to check the SPAM filter every day, sometimes we slip. ;)
Sorry about that!

To answer your question, you can get a loaner Sequel from BGS or SCMS. They both have very competitive prices.

Kind Regards,
David
PS: Glad to know YOU'RE still around, too!
PPS: My personal email address is "David (at) Translantech.com" Anyone on the list should feel free to write me when you have questions or problems.
 
I hope so. They’ve had one of my sequels for repair since February! ??? Also, I read where there is a new Ariane plus or something coming out at NAB.
 
Thanks for letting me know, David (usually I'm so focused on board content I somewhat gloss over the ads so I just probably didn't notice them). I probably should have used my own email since I don't think my domain is as susceptible to being filtered as the district's email is.

I know the folks I've talked to love the product which is why I want to at least give one a test spin and see about at least getting one for the test lab. If I can steer one of my project stations toward one I can at least do some real world testing and evaluating.

Per what fm-engineer says, I wonder what the turn-around is when one of these critters have a problem. Also, if there's a "new and improved" unit coming down the pike I would either steer toward the new unit or perhaps look for a better discount on a lower end model, assuming a new product rollout is more than speculation.
 
Bill DeFelice said:
Thanks for letting me know, David (usually I'm so focused on board content I somewhat gloss over the ads so I just probably didn't notice them). I probably should have used my own email since I don't think my domain is as susceptible to being filtered as the district's email is.

I know the folks I've talked to love the product which is why I want to at least give one a test spin and see about at least getting one for the test lab. If I can steer one of my project stations toward one I can at least do some real world testing and evaluating.

Per what fm-engineer says, I wonder what the turn-around is when one of these critters have a problem. Also, if there's a "new and improved" unit coming down the pike I would either steer toward the new unit or perhaps look for a better discount on a lower end model, assuming a new product rollout is more than speculation.
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I'll tell Radio-Info that readers don't see their ads. Maybe they'll reduce our rate. ;D

I can't speak for other manufacturers, but almost invariably TransLanTech will Fedex a loaner unit when someone's Ariane gets cranky and needs attention. Even if out of warranty.

The Ariane Sequel continues to be our flagship digital AGC product, and even now there are firmware updates in the pipeline to further refine its capabilities.


Kind Regards,
David

TransLanTech Sound, LLC
2009 NAB booth N8724
 
Bill and Dave,

I will attest to the great support of Translantech. They sent a fex-ex loaner right away. I was just beginning to wonder since they've had the unit for two months. The subject of this tread caught my attention. IMHO, the sequel is the best AGC you will ever find, and I hope they are around for a long time. :)
 
That's good to hear, considering I am considering the Sequel as the next choice for a few of the stations I have direct involvement with. My initial concern was the fact that the few other vendors I emailed got back to me within hours (if not minutes) but as David explained my email somehow ended up in their spam filter.
 
I have heard good things about the Arianne Sequel too. But would it make any difference on an FM station
that's using the lower priced Vorsis VP-8 for processing?

My small market client is real happy with his little Vorsis. But would having an Arianne in the audio chain make a difference in his on-air sound? And if so, what kind of difference? Or would it be overkill?

dx7
 
If the client likes the sound, leave it be. Later you can wow him with a new box.
As to the Airiane, I heard one which does nice things... lightly used. I've heard a double handful being driven to 'light all the lights' mode and they, as you'd expect, sound like hammered dogchut. The box has its uses, and also has - as do most of today's boxes - the potential to really hose up the audio. Depends what you do with it.
 
littlejohn said:
If the client likes the sound, leave it be. Later you can wow him with a new box.
As to the Airiane, I heard one which does nice things... lightly used. I've heard a double handful being driven to 'light all the lights' mode and they, as you'd expect, sound like hammered dogchut. The box has its uses, and also has - as do most of today's boxes - the potential to really hose up the audio. Depends what you do with it.
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Maybe there's some device called "Airiane," that I'm not familiar with. If you are speaking of the Ariane on the other hand, I think you are mistaken in your judgment.

The Ariane is, by design, the "anti-hammer." It simply doesn't have the capacity to "sound like hammered dogchut!" "Hosing" the audio is not in its vocabulary.

Uniquely, the Ariane algorithm, even fully wound-out, is "looking" for opportunities to STOP the process.

Littlejohn, if you are going to the NAB, please visit our booth. You can play with an Ariane, and hear for yourself. Set it however you like...I challenge you to make it sound like "dogchut." ;D

Kind Regards,
David

NAB booth N8724
 
I'd admire to, you pick up the ticket and I'll see if I can get loose for a couple of days. :):) It isn't unfortunately in my current budget. And you can easily convince me that the box after yours is where the bad sound originates.... but the experience was/is, one of the stations sounded real nice. Many did not. So, I suppose one could say the good one was the result of this box, but the bad ones were the result of those boxes over there after it? Works for me.
 
As with all processors,set up is the key,as you all know very well.i'm using the matrix default setting and running the total G/R on the 8100 alittle less than 10db and the combo is fantastic.Open and very smooth.I just didn't like the sound when i pushed the 8100 into 10-15db G/R.,although some claim that's the sweet spot..I will experiment with some suggestions other users sent,just been too busy to get er done.But you hate to mess with something that sounds good now.
 
dx7 said:
I have heard good things about the Arianne Sequel too. But would it make any difference on an FM station
that's using the lower priced Vorsis VP-8 for processing?

My small market client is real happy with his little Vorsis. But would having an Arianne in the audio chain make a difference in his on-air sound? And if so, what kind of difference? Or would it be overkill?

dx7
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With a VP-8 it would probably be overkill. The VP-8's AGC is a sum/difference-style AGC like the Ariane in Matrix mode. There are some differences, however, with the biggest probably being that the VP-8 has a compressor ganged to the AGC. The compression ratio is different as well, and I find that most VP-8 factory presets have much more L-R injection than Ariane presets do. I like the Ariane sound but it would not serve much of a purpose with a VP-8 (unless you were to defeat the AGC & compressor).
 
Whit,

The Ariane is a much better AGC than most, if not all, stock internal AGC's. I'm not sure about the Vorsis, but you can control how much L-R you want on the Ariane factory presets. The matrix processing of the L-R can reveal more perceived separation with lower L-R injection levels. The band 1 L-R mute is also handy too for multipath prone areas.
 
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Whit,

The Ariane is a much better AGC than most, if not all, stock internal AGC's. I'm not sure about the Vorsis, but you can control how much L-R you want on the Ariane factory presets. The matrix processing of the L-R can reveal more perceived separation with lower L-R injection levels. The band 1 L-R mute is also handy too for multipath prone areas.
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The VP-8 has separate controls for L-R drive (injection) at both the input of the AGC and the output. There is also a sum/diff HPF with an adjustable frequency on both.

I agree with your assessment of the Ariane. It's an excellent leveler. What I was trying to point out is that, considering the style of AGC that both of them are, the sound improvement would only be slight and thus not worth the cost (for most stations on a budget). I'm not trying to drive people away from the Ariane...just trying to lay out the technical side of this purchasing decision.
 
The Ariane is great period...but if you're forced to have your processing out at the transmitter and you're running a digital STL or especially analog into a digital converter...nothing beats an Ariane to run protection...and to keep the processor at the other end in a sweet spot.
 
whitfm said:
With a VP-8 it would probably be overkill. The VP-8's AGC is a sum/difference-style AGC like the Ariane in Matrix mode. There are some differences, however, with the biggest probably being that the VP-8 has a compressor ganged to the AGC. The compression ratio is different as well, and I find that most VP-8 factory presets have much more L-R injection than Ariane presets do. I like the Ariane sound but it would not serve much of a purpose with a VP-8 (unless you were to defeat the AGC & compressor).
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Whit should've been at processing freak day in Netherlands. I was there and saw vorsis get embarassed in the A/B comparison with other processors. Even the vorsis guys could not make the box sound better than the competing processors.
 
i hear the Omnia One FM with cg;s presets was a clear winner over the Vorsis.But i also hear Leif's Breakaway Broadcast Processor was the real head turner and caught quite a few ears by surprise.
 
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