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Transparent Box going into spots on SNL
- Thread starter Garrett
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KML0224
Guest
> Hey, at 12:27pm I've been noticing an a brief empty outline
> of a box going into each network break on SNL (which is live
> tongiht, 4/15/06). Is anyone else noticing this? Does it
> have something to do with the Widescreen format?
>
Is it the same people who supply us with that mysterious thin green bar you always see between Leno and Conan on weeknights?
<P ID="signature">______________
The 2006 New York Yankees...on to title #27!</P>
> of a box going into each network break on SNL (which is live
> tongiht, 4/15/06). Is anyone else noticing this? Does it
> have something to do with the Widescreen format?
>
Is it the same people who supply us with that mysterious thin green bar you always see between Leno and Conan on weeknights?
<P ID="signature">______________The 2006 New York Yankees...on to title #27!</P>
O
oldiesfan
Guest
> Is it the same people who supply us with that
> mysterious thin green bar you always see
> between Leno and Conan on weeknights?
Wasn't the green bar mystery solved here a
few months back?
IIRC, it's a network origination switch between
Burbank and New York--although I wonder with frame
synchronizers, et al, why it wouldn't be a clean
switch.
Apparently since Leno tapes in Burbank around
5:00pm PT, it's not backhauled live to 30 Rock
for later airing. Any editing, bleeping, etc.,
is done on the left coast and the program aired
from Burbank at 8:34:30pm PT for the ET/CT feed.
What I don't know is which facility originates
the MT and PT feeds of Leno. Anyone? Bueller?
> mysterious thin green bar you always see
> between Leno and Conan on weeknights?
Wasn't the green bar mystery solved here a
few months back?
IIRC, it's a network origination switch between
Burbank and New York--although I wonder with frame
synchronizers, et al, why it wouldn't be a clean
switch.
Apparently since Leno tapes in Burbank around
5:00pm PT, it's not backhauled live to 30 Rock
for later airing. Any editing, bleeping, etc.,
is done on the left coast and the program aired
from Burbank at 8:34:30pm PT for the ET/CT feed.
What I don't know is which facility originates
the MT and PT feeds of Leno. Anyone? Bueller?
Re: And, getting back to the subject...
> Yes, it's a hand off from LA to NYC...
>
> Now, can we get back to my question please?
Probably just something coming down the network feed that's supposed to be covered up locally - just the opposite from my local NBC affiliate, WHEC-TV Rochester, which regularly covers the open of "Weekend Update" with the end of a local spot. <P ID="signature">______________
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> Yes, it's a hand off from LA to NYC...
>
> Now, can we get back to my question please?
Probably just something coming down the network feed that's supposed to be covered up locally - just the opposite from my local NBC affiliate, WHEC-TV Rochester, which regularly covers the open of "Weekend Update" with the end of a local spot. <P ID="signature">______________
Tower Site Calendar 2006 ON SALE! - <a target="_blank" href=http://www.fybush.com/nerw.html#calendar>www.fybush.com</a></P>
Re: And, getting back to the subject...
> > Yes, it's a hand off from LA to NYC...
> >
> > Now, can we get back to my question please?
>
> Probably just something coming down the network feed that's
> supposed to be covered up locally - just the opposite from
> my local NBC affiliate, WHEC-TV Rochester, which regularly
> covers the open of "Weekend Update" with the end of a local
> spot.
>
I know what you are talking about, but these were going into every national break...
> > Yes, it's a hand off from LA to NYC...
> >
> > Now, can we get back to my question please?
>
> Probably just something coming down the network feed that's
> supposed to be covered up locally - just the opposite from
> my local NBC affiliate, WHEC-TV Rochester, which regularly
> covers the open of "Weekend Update" with the end of a local
> spot.
>
I know what you are talking about, but these were going into every national break...
> Hey, at 12:27pm I've been noticing an a brief empty outline
> of a box going into each network break on SNL (which is live
> tongiht, 4/15/06). Is anyone else noticing this? Does it
> have something to do with the Widescreen format?
>
Where was the box? Could it have been a malfunctioning Namedropper? (The Namedropper is an automated logo insertion system that keys the local station's ID over the network programming when it receives signals from NBC Skypath control.)<P ID="signature">______________
"Radio is like musical chairs. When the music stops, I sit down and say something."</P>
> of a box going into each network break on SNL (which is live
> tongiht, 4/15/06). Is anyone else noticing this? Does it
> have something to do with the Widescreen format?
>
Where was the box? Could it have been a malfunctioning Namedropper? (The Namedropper is an automated logo insertion system that keys the local station's ID over the network programming when it receives signals from NBC Skypath control.)<P ID="signature">______________
"Radio is like musical chairs. When the music stops, I sit down and say something."</P>
O
oldiesfan
Guest
> ...The Namedropper is an automated logo insertion
> system that keys the local station's ID over the
> network programming when it receives signals from
> NBC Skypath control...
At the risk of incurring the wrath of Garrett again...
(maybe he had too much chocolate this morning ;-)
If an affiliate doesn't air a show "in pattern" from
the various sat feeds or otherwise has to record
(to tape or digital delay system) a show for later
playback--think AZ in the summer--is the Skypath signal
for Namedropper embedded in what was recorded so upon
airing it also triggers the local ID?
> system that keys the local station's ID over the
> network programming when it receives signals from
> NBC Skypath control...
At the risk of incurring the wrath of Garrett again...
(maybe he had too much chocolate this morning ;-)
If an affiliate doesn't air a show "in pattern" from
the various sat feeds or otherwise has to record
(to tape or digital delay system) a show for later
playback--think AZ in the summer--is the Skypath signal
for Namedropper embedded in what was recorded so upon
airing it also triggers the local ID?
> If an affiliate doesn't air a show "in pattern" from
> the various sat feeds or otherwise has to record
> (to tape or digital delay system) a show for later
> playback--think AZ in the summer--is the Skypath signal
> for Namedropper embedded in what was recorded so upon
> airing it also triggers the local ID?
Yes... As long as your playback system is wired correctly.
-A<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> the various sat feeds or otherwise has to record
> (to tape or digital delay system) a show for later
> playback--think AZ in the summer--is the Skypath signal
> for Namedropper embedded in what was recorded so upon
> airing it also triggers the local ID?
Yes... As long as your playback system is wired correctly.
-A<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> IIRC, it's a network origination switch between
> Burbank and New York--although I wonder with frame
> synchronizers, et al, why it wouldn't be a clean
> switch.
What you see is a power-down of LA and a power-up of NYC... When NBC comes out of LA, there's a roughly 2 second delay in the network.
> What I don't know is which facility originates
> the MT and PT feeds of Leno. Anyone? Bueller?
I'm not 100% positive, but I'd bet those are also played from LA.
-A<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> Burbank and New York--although I wonder with frame
> synchronizers, et al, why it wouldn't be a clean
> switch.
What you see is a power-down of LA and a power-up of NYC... When NBC comes out of LA, there's a roughly 2 second delay in the network.
> What I don't know is which facility originates
> the MT and PT feeds of Leno. Anyone? Bueller?
I'm not 100% positive, but I'd bet those are also played from LA.
-A<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
Re: And, getting back to the subject...
Would this possibly have something to do with HD/widescreen versions of the show being shown to analog viewers as well? Perhaps a screenshift or switching of sorts? It does seem to resemble the screen dimensions of a non-HD signal on a HD set in widescreen mode, as the box disappears. The local newscast here in town that provides "widescreen digital" video does this as they enter commercial breaks and switch back to normal.
> > > Yes, it's a hand off from LA to NYC...
> > >
> > > Now, can we get back to my question please?
> >
> > Probably just something coming down the network feed
> that's
> > supposed to be covered up locally - just the opposite from
>
> > my local NBC affiliate, WHEC-TV Rochester, which regularly
>
> > covers the open of "Weekend Update" with the end of a
> local
> > spot.
> >
>
> I know what you are talking about, but these were going into
> every national break...
>
Would this possibly have something to do with HD/widescreen versions of the show being shown to analog viewers as well? Perhaps a screenshift or switching of sorts? It does seem to resemble the screen dimensions of a non-HD signal on a HD set in widescreen mode, as the box disappears. The local newscast here in town that provides "widescreen digital" video does this as they enter commercial breaks and switch back to normal.
> > > Yes, it's a hand off from LA to NYC...
> > >
> > > Now, can we get back to my question please?
> >
> > Probably just something coming down the network feed
> that's
> > supposed to be covered up locally - just the opposite from
>
> > my local NBC affiliate, WHEC-TV Rochester, which regularly
>
> > covers the open of "Weekend Update" with the end of a
> local
> > spot.
> >
>
> I know what you are talking about, but these were going into
> every national break...
>
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