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Tripp West to Afternoons at True Oldies?

That would be a tremendous move...I feel for the guy he replaces but very happy for Tripp is this is in fact happening. It would actually give True Oldies some credibility to go along with their morning show. Tripp sounded better on the Groove than he ever did on Star...TO would give him the chance to really put the personality on display.

So...I hope this is true!
 
Nyte Ryder said:
It would actually give True Oldies some credibility to go along with their morning show.

Credibility? Playing a bunch of old songs off a list someone else compiled? What sort of "credibility" does any DJ on a tightly formatted station have or need?
 
RoddyFreeman said:
The rumor is out there...

Hope it's true. Tripp is a great guy and a market legend. he deserves a great gig.
 
Talk_Dude said:
Nyte Ryder said:
It would actually give True Oldies some credibility to go along with their morning show.

Credibility? Playing a bunch of old songs off a list someone else compiled? What sort of "credibility" does any DJ on a tightly formatted station have or need?

Gee, I don't know: how about, the ability to "hit it and get it" up to the post, to be entertaining within 7-10 seconds of intro ramp, to paint audio pictures of the era/feeling/emotion associated with the song in tightly timed bursts. Takes talent. Equals credibility. Regardless of who programmed the "bunch of old songs".

But hey, thanks for throwing about 85% of the world's best and most legendary music jocks under the bus. Since none of them program their own music; it's their JOB to make it entertaining....and credible. You're right, it means nothing.

Thoughtful of you.
 
ck dexter haven said:
Talk_Dude said:
Nyte Ryder said:
It would actually give True Oldies some credibility to go along with their morning show.

Credibility? Playing a bunch of old songs off a list someone else compiled? What sort of "credibility" does any DJ on a tightly formatted station have or need?

Gee, I don't know: how about, the ability to "hit it and get it" up to the post, to be entertaining within 7-10 seconds of intro ramp, to paint audio pictures of the era/feeling/emotion associated with the song in tightly timed bursts. Takes talent. Equals credibility. Regardless of who programmed the "bunch of old songs".

But hey, thanks for throwing about 85% of the world's best and most legendary music jocks under the bus. Since none of them program their own music; it's their JOB to make it entertaining....and credible. You're right, it means nothing.

Thoughtful of you.

I have to agree with CK on this one. If jocks didn't have credibility, personality endorsements wouldn't work like they do, and believe me, they work like gangbusters. I've seen it firsthand.
 
ck dexter haven said:
Talk_Dude said:
Nyte Ryder said:
It would actually give True Oldies some credibility to go along with their morning show.

Credibility? Playing a bunch of old songs off a list someone else compiled? What sort of "credibility" does any DJ on a tightly formatted station have or need?

Gee, I don't know: how about, the ability to "hit it and get it" up to the post, to be entertaining within 7-10 seconds of intro ramp, to paint audio pictures of the era/feeling/emotion associated with the song in tightly timed bursts. Takes talent. Equals credibility. Regardless of who programmed the "bunch of old songs".

But hey, thanks for throwing about 85% of the world's best and most legendary music jocks under the bus. Since none of them program their own music; it's their JOB to make it entertaining....and credible. You're right, it means nothing.

Thoughtful of you.

I've never heard any DJ on any station ever who could get me to keep stay tuned to his station if he was playing songs I didn't like. And, I never heard any DJ on any station who could get me to tune out if he was playing songs I did like.

Maybe decades ago, before every station started programming a different, unique format, the DJ's were the deciding factor. If there were two oldies stations in town, both playing the exact same songs, then the DJ might make a difference. But in Atlanta right now, there is only one oldies station. So, if I want to hear oldies on the radio, I'll listen to that station regardless of who the DJ is. And if they're playing too many songs that I don't like, no DJ in the world is going to make me keep listening.

Don't any of you realize it's 2010? Times have changed.
 
Talk_Dude said:
ck dexter haven said:
Talk_Dude said:
Nyte Ryder said:
It would actually give True Oldies some credibility to go along with their morning show.

Credibility? Playing a bunch of old songs off a list someone else compiled? What sort of "credibility" does any DJ on a tightly formatted station have or need?

Gee, I don't know: how about, the ability to "hit it and get it" up to the post, to be entertaining within 7-10 seconds of intro ramp, to paint audio pictures of the era/feeling/emotion associated with the song in tightly timed bursts. Takes talent. Equals credibility. Regardless of who programmed the "bunch of old songs".

But hey, thanks for throwing about 85% of the world's best and most legendary music jocks under the bus. Since none of them program their own music; it's their JOB to make it entertaining....and credible. You're right, it means nothing.

Thoughtful of you.

I've never heard any DJ on any station ever who could get me to keep stay tuned to his station if he was playing songs I didn't like. And, I never heard any DJ on any station who could get me to tune out if he was playing songs I did like.

Maybe decades ago, before every station started programming a different, unique format, the DJ's were the deciding factor. If there were two oldies stations in town, both playing the exact same songs, then the DJ might make a difference. But in Atlanta right now, there is only one oldies station. So, if I want to hear oldies on the radio, I'll listen to that station regardless of who the DJ is. And if they're playing too many songs that I don't like, no DJ in the world is going to make me keep listening.

Don't any of you realize it's 2010? Times have changed.
You're right, it's 2010, and things have changed.

Talk_Dude, I'm sorry you didn't ever get to experience that. When DJs mattered, I mean. When people had FAVORITE jocks, and for good reason. Here's an idea: let's fire ALL of them, and bag it completely, and just play music with nothing else. No localism, personality, nothing. Sounds like: Pandora. So hey while we're at it, let's kill this board too; much of the comments here are about music Djs and personalities.

I dunno, I don't read much about Boortz or Clark Howard or Sean Hannity here. It's all about music morning shows, or jocks like Kelly McCoy or the guys on Kicks.

Your moniker would make me think your bias is towards talk radio. That's a whole different talent set requirement. And with PPM, unless they're talking "correctly" as in, what matters to the audience, their ratings die too. Another idea: let's fire them too.
 
ck dexter haven said:
You're right, it's 2010, and things have changed.

Talk_Dude, I'm sorry you didn't ever get to experience that. When DJs mattered, I mean. When people had FAVORITE jocks, and for good reason. Here's an idea: let's fire ALL of them, and bag it completely, and just play music with nothing else. No localism, personality, nothing. Sounds like: Pandora. So hey while we're at it, let's kill this board too; much of the comments here are about music Djs and personalities.

I dunno, I don't read much about Boortz or Clark Howard or Sean Hannity here. It's all about music morning shows, or jocks like Kelly McCoy or the guys on Kicks.

Your moniker would make me think your bias is towards talk radio. That's a whole different talent set requirement. And with PPM, unless they're talking "correctly" as in, what matters to the audience, their ratings die too. Another idea: let's fire them too.

Do you always go so far overboard like that? Do you think gross hyperbolic exaggeration helps make your point? I never said that having no jocks at all was a good idea. I only said that it doesn't much matter which one you have. It's like a bagger at Kroger. As long as your groceries are put into bags correctly, one's as good as another. But, it is still nice to have one even if it doesn't matter which one.

But you do almost make a good point. Since there's pretty much only one station in town for each format niche (for the most part), if all of them dropped their DJ's and continued to play the same songs they play now, I imagine people would still listen to the same stations they listen to now. I'd still keep traffic reports, but I'd imagine that if there were one single unified traffic report source that all the stations could plug into, like the National Weather Service is for weather forecasts, that would be enough.

And I did get to experience the olden days when DJ's mattered. I'm almost 60. I can remember when there were two or three competing Top 40 stations all playing the same hits off of the Billboard lists. I was in high school then. People did have favorite jocks then. However, if their favorite jock changed stations and went from playing Top 40 to playing country, no one turned into a country fan just to follow the jock.

As for my moniker indicating a bias, sorry. That's not what it means. It really doesn't mean much of anything anymore. It's just a nickname I got a long, long time ago.
 
Talk_Dude said:
ck dexter haven said:
You're right, it's 2010, and things have changed.

Talk_Dude, I'm sorry you didn't ever get to experience that. When DJs mattered, I mean. When people had FAVORITE jocks, and for good reason. Here's an idea: let's fire ALL of them, and bag it completely, and just play music with nothing else. No localism, personality, nothing. Sounds like: Pandora. So hey while we're at it, let's kill this board too; much of the comments here are about music Djs and personalities.

I dunno, I don't read much about Boortz or Clark Howard or Sean Hannity here. It's all about music morning shows, or jocks like Kelly McCoy or the guys on Kicks.

Your moniker would make me think your bias is towards talk radio. That's a whole different talent set requirement. And with PPM, unless they're talking "correctly" as in, what matters to the audience, their ratings die too. Another idea: let's fire them too.

Do you always go so far overboard like that? Do you think gross hyperbolic exaggeration helps make your point? I never said that having no jocks at all was a good idea. I only said that it doesn't much matter which one you have. It's like a bagger at Kroger. As long as your groceries are put into bags correctly, one's as good as another. But, it is still nice to have one even if it doesn't matter which one.

But you do almost make a good point. Since there's pretty much only one station in town for each format niche (for the most part), if all of them dropped their DJ's and continued to play the same songs they play now, I imagine people would still listen to the same stations they listen to now. I'd still keep traffic reports, but I'd imagine that if there were one single unified traffic report source that all the stations could plug into, like the National Weather Service is for weather forecasts, that would be enough.

And I did get to experience the olden days when DJ's mattered. I'm almost 60. I can remember when there were two or three competing Top 40 stations all playing the same hits off of the Billboard lists. I was in high school then. People did have favorite jocks then. However, if their favorite jock changed stations and went from playing Top 40 to playing country, no one turned into a country fan just to follow the jock.

As for my moniker indicating a bias, sorry. That's not what it means. It really doesn't mean much of anything anymore. It's just a nickname I got a long, long time ago.

Overboard with hyperbole? Not me, friend. Here's you: "Credibility? Playing a bunch of old songs off a list someone else compiled? What sort of "credibility" does any DJ on a tightly formatted station have or need? "

That's pretty much painting with a broad brush, and I'm sorry but I'll lose the hyperbole game to you on this one.

i was responding to that, specifically. I'm glad I was wrong about your background and your influences, because it adds to YOUR credibility. We can argue this and that, ok--but, I disagree about offering up just one source for content specialized items like weather. It might be enough for you--but tell that to WSB Radio, whose Kirk Mellish is a star reason why people listen.

Brands matter, and their ability to differentiate matters. If all adopted your ideas, then it gets back to my original point in response to you earlier: why bother trying? If there's one weather source, and one sports or news source...why do you need people? Just use the feeds and be done with it. That's how I read your comment.

If I'm wrong in my perception, I'm sorry--I'm not trying to flame here. But which way do you LEAN?
 
ck dexter haven said:
Overboard with hyperbole? Not me, friend. Here's you: "Credibility? Playing a bunch of old songs off a list someone else compiled? What sort of "credibility" does any DJ on a tightly formatted station have or need? "

That's pretty much painting with a broad brush, and I'm sorry but I'll lose the hyperbole game to you on this one.

That's hardly a "broad brush". In the context of an oldies radio station, the only one who needs "credibility" is the person picking the songs. That person is assumed to know oldies. That knowledge is the source of "credibility".

A DJ needs no "credibility", no authority, no expertise. He can do what he does in between records without knowing anything about the records. He needs skills, but he doesn't need "credibility".

Perhaps what's causing you to think I was painting with a broad brush is that you don't know what "credibility" means. Is that it? Having "credibility" means that you know what you're talking about. A DJ doesn't need to know anything to read a liner card.

ck dexter haven said:
i was responding to that, specifically. I'm glad I was wrong about your background and your influences, because it adds to YOUR credibility. We can argue this and that, ok--but, I disagree about offering up just one source for content specialized items like weather. It might be enough for you--but tell that to WSB Radio, whose Kirk Mellish is a star reason why people listen.

Brands matter, and their ability to differentiate matters. If all adopted your ideas, then it gets back to my original point in response to you earlier: why bother trying? If there's one weather source, and one sports or news source...why do you need people? Just use the feeds and be done with it. That's how I read your comment.

If I'm wrong in my perception, I'm sorry--I'm not trying to flame here. But which way do you LEAN?

I lean towards paying careful attention to the important things, like the music, and not worrying very much (and not spending much money) on the stuff that doesn't matter, like the DJ's.

My guess is that you're a DJ, and you don't want to see your career fizzle in a puff of smoke as the passing years make it less and less relevant. If that's the case, you have my sympathy. It's rough to have the thing you did for a living no longer in demand.
 
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