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Trouble At Atlantic???????

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DonJohnson

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Rumors are GM Brett Denafo was bounced from Atlantic Broadcasting this morning. If it's true, I wonder who's next? First "media-affiliated" diaries being yanked...now this? Could the company be crumbling before our very eyes?
 
hmmmm...really? Only your 2nd post and you are calling out someone's screen name?

Now back to our regularly scheduled program....
Atlantic's GM out? Wasn't he an owner? Wow fired from your own company! Wonder if it was because of the arbitron thing or was he just a bad GM? Sorry so many questions, but inquiring minds want to know.
 
I don't think it's so much of a "bad GM" situation, as it is just buying into the market at the wrong time. Remember, Atlantic purchased those stations from Access 1 right as the market dropped out. Established companies like Millennium had an easier time getting through the "financial drought" because they didn't have to worry about dumping a ton of money into stations to make them successful, they already were a well oiled machine.
 
did some digging after my post...seems some bad moves have been made since Atl. but from Access.
Looked at ratings and since sp of '08, they've fallen way down. Word on the streets in that area are that
they got rid of some people they maybe should not have and kept a few of the wrong ones.
But that's radio anywhere, right?
 
As long as he/she is wearing a white suit with a pink shirt with pet alligator, then I guess Don Johnson is fine. Calling out??? It was Mr. Johnson's 1st post and it's about someone losing their job. Lame...
 
hmmmm said:
Don Johnson? Really?

Well it was only your 2nd post when you made that comment....So you were asking if that was really his name or asking "really" to his statement? I am sure you see my confusion, sorry.

BTW, There have been many on here to make a post about someone losing their job.
 
hmmmm said:
As long as he/she is wearing a white suit with a pink shirt with pet alligator, then I guess Don Johnson is fine. Calling out??? It was Mr. Johnson's 1st post and it's about someone losing their job. Lame...

I'm not really sure what's lame about my post. I'm simply reporting on news that is relevant to this market. An (almost) brand new company losing their GM (who happens to be an owner) is pretty big news. Should I have placed this in the Delaware forum? Perhaps you would like to see this post moved to Ham/CB/Scanner Forum? Should I have not reported this at all? It's one thing if my information is not correct, yet no one has brought any news to the table that is contrary to what I first reported.
 
If you were the one that just got fired, would you wanna read it just a few hours later on what honestly is a gossip board. Is it true? Yes. But it's someones downfall that you feel the "need" to report. Again... lame.
 
Contrary to the implications from an unknown inside employee ("Don Johnson"), this move had more to do with differing opinions between investors and management (also shareholders/investors in the company) than it did mis-management. Atlantic Broadcasting has been alive and well and was on track for an amazing long term turnaround. The management team includes competent radio professionals who live and work in the local community. Their children attend many of the same schools as their clients, they worship in many of the same churches, eat in the same restaurants, and socialize in the same circles. Their hearts are in the business and they understand the seasonality of the local market. It's hard for people from the NY or Philadelphia market to adapt to the seasonal highs and lows of this region.

More important is the concept of "six degrees of separation". Being local, the management team either knows their clients or knows someone who knows them. People buy from others they trust and that is something that investors will unfortunately learn the hard way.

In GREAT times, a turnaround of this magnitude can take years. To expect miracles in just 18 months during an economic depression is a bit overzealous. In this case, venture capital partners are truly impeding their own success. It's not that an owner was fired from his own company. It has more to do with "suits" in NY who fail to understand the local economy or perhaps they don't acknowledge the current economic crisis this country is facing. The partner who was relieved of his duties is still a shareholder in the company. He has been under the gun to make many difficult choices this past year. Budgets had to be met. He achieved those budgets by reducing monthly expenses by more than 1/3, in many cases, making very difficult choices against his better judgement. There is a fine line between meeting budgets and hurting productivity and in some instances, budget cuts can save pennies and cost dollars. There is also morale at stake in every hard decision and sometimes cuts cost more in morale than the actual pennies saved. It is amazing that investors don't always grasp that concept and my feeling is that they should step into management's shoes and get on the battlefield themselves before making rash judgements or decisions.

For the record, the individual who was let go did increase sales from previous ytd periods while national sales trends were tanking as much as 25% and more in some regions. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that sales were up 5%. If national trends were down 25%, that is pretty impressive to be 30% ahead of the pack in these difficult times. Sure, there is always room for improvement, in good times and in bad, but there are also right and wrong ways to deal with business decisions. The GM in question was qualified, put his heart and soul into his job and succeeded if you saw the results in black and white, talked to his employees, business associates and clients or read the industry publications.

"Don's" post was a debut post and on this forum before news left the building. Obviously an uninformed hourly worker, on the boards (hint), looking to leak the "news". I wish the venture capital group luck in their choice of new management. While I applaud them for their efforts, I find their methods deplorable and I believe they are going to find, like Access One (predecessor to Atlantic), that it is very difficult to sit at a desk in NY and look down at NJ as simply a vehicle to generate dollars. You need to know your clients in this market or you'll never gain their trust.

In South Jersey, it has more to do with customer service and loyalty than any arbitron stats that a suit can read from a cheat sheet. I truly wish them the best, but I think they will find in the long run that they had a great management team in place and they will someday be kicking themselves for not treating that team with the respect that they deserved.
 
acradiofan said:
and was on track for an amazing long term turnaround. The management team includes competent radio professionals.....it has more to do with customer service and loyalty than any arbitron stats........More important is the concept of "six degrees of separation".

Radio rule 1: An amateur is an amateur.
Radio rule 2: An incompetent is an incompetent.
Radio rule 3: Time salesmen people shouldn't attempt to manage or program radio stations. Not because they shouldn't, because they can't.

Congradulations on the wholesale destruction of those radio stations and reducing a radio group to bottom feeder status.
 
Sam, with all due respect, what do you know about radio other than being the son of a legend? I had the utmost respect for Hy and always will. He was a true professional. Other than the name Lit and running a website with music, what are your credentials to knock others and make such harsh statements? Atlantic is not a group of "time" salespeople. Paul Kelly, for starters, is a top notch PD with years of success and numbers to prove it. Do your homework before knocking others and BTW, why in the world would you ever think that the demos of the 40/40 club in AC would work for an oldies format targeting the 50+ crowd? So much for knowing demos... Congradulations, I mean congratulations....
 
acradiofan said:
Sam, with all due respect, what do you know about radio other than being the son of a legend? 

Obviously you have no clue.

Paul Kelly, for starters, is a top notch PD with years of success and numbers to prove it.

I don't know who Paul Kelly is, and was not referring to him.

why in the world would you ever think that the demos of the 40/40 club in AC would work for an oldies format targeting the 50+ crowd?  So much for knowing demos..

I repeat, obviously you have no clue.

If you did, you'd have a future.
 
wow ac radio fan,
...so you are saying the suits who gave these guys a lot of money to buy this group were sold a bill of goods to invest? That the GM was a radio know it all and because he was local he would succeed? Cue the laugh track. It sounds like the guy did not know "jack" about running radio stations.

...Sam Lit said it nicely with his post, and if I may add, "the station has lost it's personality" and it's client trust thanks to that management team.

...I just learned that he fired their #1 salesman not to long ago. That doesn't sound like a good GM, that sounds like a GM trying to turn all that comission into house money to make the books look better. He kept cutting and cutting until bone marrow was spewing out all over the place.

...so much info...maybe you should have signed your post, "Brett" (and if you are not Brett he should buy you dinner for posting such a nice entertaining "stick up for Brett" letter. Again, cue the laugh track.
 
acradiofan said:
Other than the name Lit and running a website with music, what are your credentials to knock others and make such harsh statements?

Wow. Forgive me, this is just so wildly astounding, I can't even hold this back. Do you even realize that the Hy Lit Radio Technologies platforms literally dwarf the weekly cume of any one of those station that you destroyed?

No, wait, let me rephrase this as delicately as possible. Do you even understand what the internet is or how it works?

Let me help you. Here is your first step toward broadcast re-education.... Portable internet protocol platform application.
 
Wow. Like always, this board gets ugly. Regardless of who is posting, the guy lost his job. He has bills and responsibilities just like everyone else on this board and yet everyone feels the need to take shots at Brett. No one on this board knows why he is really gone. I'm sure the investors felt they had good reasons to do so. I do know he poured everything he had into this company and worked like a dog the past two years running it. It's just unfortunate, but please go ahead and make assumptions and take shots about his downfall...
 
Apparently, it is the result of who this person is. It seems, anyone foolish enough to come in contact with this one man wrecking crew knows this. From what I understand, he has wrecked or attempted to wreck more lives than any other individual in the history of broadcasting in that market. In the process he has decimated an entire radio group. Caused Arbitron to have to reissue a rating book, and back stabbed and offended practically everyone he came in contact with, including, from his own admission, the debt holders of Atlantic Broadcasting. I suspect Equity broadcasting, his previous employer whom he ripped off when he blew out of there, then tried to raid their clients and wreck that company, are probably having a good laugh right about now. Oh, wait, that probably began when Arbitron reissued that last rating book.
 
hmmmm said:
Wow. Like always, this board gets ugly. Regardless of who is posting, the guy lost his job. He has bills and responsibilities just like everyone else on this board and yet everyone feels the need to take shots at Brett.
"Yeah, and so did the people he has fired just to bring his friends in! Some of us know people who worked there too."
Wonder how much you really know? Hmmmm


No one on this board knows why he is really gone.
"Sales & collections down...Have you looked at the ratings? They have gone way done since he took control, even more after they got caught by Arbitron"

I'm sure the investors felt they had good reasons to do so.
Oh yeah they did, MONEY, he made too many changes and spent too much too soon."

I do know he poured everything he had into this company and worked like a dog the past two years running it.
"Really, how do you know this?"

It's just unfortunate, but please go ahead and make assumptions and take shots about his downfall...
"He did not have the experience to run radio, he ran a hot dog store for crying out loud, BIG difference, get real"
 
Knowing Brett very well first of all he is the hardest working person in the world and truly loves the radio business. But lets look at the facts. Brett had no experience in the radio business he was a part time DJ thats all the experience he had period in the biz Most people that knew Brett where in amazement that he got the position that was offered to him. With all do respect he was a fast food owner which all failed after a couple years. If his investors did there reasearch they would of figured out that Brett has a gift for gab but they should of done there job better in there investigation of Bretts qualifications. I guess finally figured it out that Brett was very very unqualified to run a radio station. Its kinda like letting a flight attendent to fly a plane.
 
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