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True Oldies Channel

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nwside7725

I was under the impression they were for sale from ABC, but still appears to be an ABC station.

So I state the obvious...

Why have they not got the WLS-FM call letters yet? Get WLS FM calls and perhaps lure in Dick Biondi (if he's got it in him) or Lujak (to jump the 1690 ship).

There is so much potential and talent. Mc KAy in the morning is allright, but I sincerely get tired of Scott Shannon the rest of the day. 24 hour voice tracking is a little much.

Will Real Oldies 1690 hold on? Not a bad signal, somewhat weak at night. It could be a good home to another type of station. Do you think it will it stay Oldies, especially since the selection on 94.7 is REAL GOOD?

Or will there be an Adult Standards, Country Legends, Spanish (speaking), or Polka station on the horizon?

Whatever the case, it looks like nationwide that dropping oldies was a bad move. Just ask Jack. : )
 
> I was under the impression they were for sale from ABC, but
> still appears to be an ABC station.
>
> So I state the obvious...
>
> Why have they not got the WLS-FM call letters yet? Get WLS
> FM calls and perhaps lure in Dick Biondi (if he's got it in
> him) or Lujak (to jump the 1690 ship).
>
> There is so much potential and talent. Mc KAy in the morning
> is allright, but I sincerely get tired of Scott Shannon the
> rest of the day. 24 hour voice tracking is a little much.
>
> Will Real Oldies 1690 hold on? Not a bad signal, somewhat
> weak at night. It could be a good home to another type of
> station. Do you think it will it stay Oldies, especially
> since the selection on 94.7 is REAL GOOD?
>
> Or will there be an Adult Standards, Country Legends,
> Spanish (speaking), or Polka station on the horizon?
>
> Whatever the case, it looks like nationwide that dropping
> oldies was a bad move. Just ask Jack. : )
>


Citadel bought all of ABC's stations as well as the ABC Radio Networks EXCEPT for Radio Disney and ESPN Radio.


True Oldies Channel (ran by WPLJ's Scott Shannon) is an ABC Radio Network.

Citadel will own both once the FCC approves the sale.

My guess is they will leave it on 94.7. Doesn't really cost them anything since they own both the network and the station.<P ID="signature">______________

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Personally I think it's ridiculous to have a full market FM signal in Chicago almost entirely off the bird.

This is a station that should be live and local.
 
> I was under the impression they were for sale from ABC, but
> still appears to be an ABC station.
>
> So I state the obvious...
>
> Why have they not got the WLS-FM call letters yet? Get WLS
> FM calls and perhaps lure in Dick Biondi (if he's got it in
> him) or Lujak (to jump the 1690 ship).
>
> There is so much potential and talent. Mc KAy in the morning
> is allright, but I sincerely get tired of Scott Shannon the
> rest of the day. 24 hour voice tracking is a little much.
>
> Will Real Oldies 1690 hold on? Not a bad signal, somewhat
> weak at night. It could be a good home to another type of
> station. Do you think it will it stay Oldies, especially
> since the selection on 94.7 is REAL GOOD?
>
> Or will there be an Adult Standards, Country Legends,
> Spanish (speaking), or Polka station on the horizon?

Yes! We need an Adult Standards and we need more of
Country Legends! But! as for Spanish or Polish nor any
of other ethnic stations, For get it! wee have way too
many of those stations in chocago anyway! We have plenty
of them! way too many of it, its over crowding our City,
and over crowding our AM & FM Band Spectume!!!...

>
> Whatever the case, it looks like nationwide that dropping
> oldies was a bad move. Just ask Jack. : )
>
 
> [Will Real Oldies 1690 hold on? Not a bad signal, somewhat
> weak at night. It could be a good home to another type of
> station. Do you think it will it stay Oldies, especially
> since the selection on 94.7 is REAL GOOD?]


I never saw WRLL as an Oldies station, but more of a '50s/'60s Top 40 station. Their PD said from the start that he was using Chicago's Top 40 charts as a basis for WRLL's programming. This is unique, to be sure. Probably unlike any other "oldies" station in the country. I hope that Chicago never loses it.
 
Oldies Channel

IT would be GREAT to get WLS-FM back associated with rock & roll. Not sure why they've not done it.

Actually, most JACK/Variety Hits stations are doing well, some really well (Phoenix, LA, St Louis, Seattle, Louisville, Vegas, Minneapolis to name a few, and we're talking 25-54, not 12+).

Jack-Chicago seems to chug along with a couple of decent months, then a lousy month. The NYC Jack is a mutt

But around the country, stations who've specifically flipped from Oldies to Variety Hits are seeing better revenue projections. Those who've flipped from other formats are mostly looking good, as well.

>
> Whatever the case, it looks like nationwide that dropping
> oldies was a bad move. Just ask Jack. : )
>
 
TOTALLY agree. A big bunch of potential there.

> Personally I think it's ridiculous to have a full market FM
> signal in Chicago almost entirely off the bird.
>
> This is a station that should be live and local.
>
 
> Yes! We need an Adult Standards and we need more of
> Country Legends! But! as for Spanish or Polish nor any
> of other ethnic stations, For get it! wee have way too
> many of those stations in chocago anyway! We have plenty
> of them! way too many of it, its over crowding our City,
> and over crowding our AM & FM Band Spectume!!!...

AS is a dead format. No one can sell it. CL.. never heard of it..

You know.. While there may be "too many" Spanish language stations on the air, I think a Polish language station with decent coverage is needed. Look at the Polnet stations... They have horrible coverage over the Polish neighboorhoods of Chicago. Same with WPNA. I know that Polnet and PNA would both kill to get an FM.

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NO

This has come up before in this forum.

Sorry, WLS now stands for "talk"...you can't go
home.

And, the ABC sale won't happen until this fall
sometime...
 
Re: Oldies Channel

> IT would be GREAT to get WLS-FM back associated with rock &
> roll. Not sure why they've not done it.
>
> Actually, most JACK/Variety Hits stations are doing well,
> some really well (Phoenix, LA, St Louis, Seattle,
> Louisville, Vegas, Minneapolis to name a few, and we're
> talking 25-54, not 12+).
>
> Jack-Chicago seems to chug along with a couple of decent
> months, then a lousy month. The NYC Jack is a mutt
>
> But around the country, stations who've specifically flipped
> from Oldies to Variety Hits are seeing better revenue
> projections. Those who've flipped from other formats are
> mostly looking good, as well.
>
> >
> > Whatever the case, it looks like nationwide that dropping
> > oldies was a bad move. Just ask Jack. : )
> >
>
Don't forget Indianapolis. Jack overall did better than their Oldies station, though the lat book showed a drop, but probably still better than the oldies format though. But who knows if Cumulus will keep Jack as it is, add airstaff, to Jack or flip formats.
 
> TOTALLY agree. A big bunch of potential there.
>
> > Personally I think it's ridiculous to have a full market
> FM
> > signal in Chicago almost entirely off the bird.
> >
> > This is a station that should be live and local.
> >
>
Especially for a frequency that's gone through the most format & call letter changes in Chicago, and only counting the city grade sticks, not suburban sticks.
 
Re: NO

> This has come up before in this forum.
>
> Sorry, WLS now stands for "talk"...you can't go
> home.
>
> And, the ABC sale won't happen until this fall
> sometime...
>>>>
Don't know if you live in the Chicagoland area, but I'll bet that if the LS calls were revived on FM, it would be a success. It will take some work--there's that four letter word people in radio don't like to hear--time and marketing, but it could be successful.

Personally, I think it would be a coup if they could "steal" the CFL calls for 94.7. While I don't know what Lujack's contract status is on 1690, it would be great to hear him roll the SuperCFL calls again on 94.7.
 
Re: NO

> Don't know if you live in the Chicagoland area, but I'll bet
> that if the LS calls were revived on FM, it would be a
> success.

I did...a child of Chicago radio from the WLS/WCFL wars of the
60s and 70s...

Two points: the call letters themselves don't mean magic. And the
station has spent a ton reimaging WLS as a talk radio station.

Having 94.7 WLS-FM won't mean a thing to its success - or lack
thereof.

Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
 
> > Yes! We need an Adult Standards and we need more of
> > Country Legends! But! as for Spanish or Polish nor any
> > of other ethnic stations, For get it! wee have way too
> > many of those stations in chocago anyway! We have plenty
> > of them! way too many of it, its over crowding our City,
> > and over crowding our AM & FM Band Spectume!!!...
>
> AS is a dead format. No one can sell it. CL.. never heard
> of it..
>
> You know.. While there may be "too many" Spanish language
> stations on the air, I think a Polish language station with
> decent coverage is needed. Look at the Polnet stations...
> They have horrible coverage over the Polish neighboorhoods
> of Chicago. Same with WPNA. I know that Polnet and PNA
> would both kill to get an FM.
>
> -A
>
Perhaps your right! I live in the southwest side of Chicago
in the vicinity of 63rd & Austin, I would like to see a Polish
FM radio station that would cover everywhere in Chicago.
Plus! I can actually hear the Saturday or weekend Polka Music
in full stereo sound! Rather than an old AM tube sound with
a bad horrible signal! In fact we should have a polish radio
station that plays today's Polish music and 24hr Polka music!!!...

Colonel Parker
 
That's right Archie, we got too many of 'them people'. They ought to take their stations and themselves and go where they came from. Anyone who disagrees with that is a 'Meathead".

Way to go, nice post.
 
> Especially for a frequency that's gone through the most
> format & call letter changes in Chicago, and only counting
> the city grade sticks, not suburban sticks.

But, Dave, you bring up the most interesting point in this thread: Why did ABC put True Oldies on 94.7?

Is it because they could do it on the *very* cheap on a snake-bit freq? Probably. The only person really hurt if it tanks is Scott Shannon.

P.S. Maybe Citadel will allow their new FMs to "borrow" the historic calls, unlike ABC...but other than a JO for the radio geeks...would it help or hurt the chances of a station?
 
> > Especially for a frequency that's gone through the most
> > format & call letter changes in Chicago, and only counting
>
> > the city grade sticks, not suburban sticks.
>
> But, Dave, you bring up the most interesting point in this
> thread: Why did ABC put True Oldies on 94.7?
>
> Is it because they could do it on the *very* cheap on a
> snake-bit freq? Probably. The only person really hurt if
> it tanks is Scott Shannon.
>
> P.S. Maybe Citadel will allow their new FMs to "borrow" the
> historic calls, unlike ABC...but other than a JO for the
> radio geeks...would it help or hurt the chances of a
> station?
>
It could work either way. As for the WLS-FM call letters, thta's up to ABC/Disney to decide if they'll let Citadel use the call letters on the FM side. They'll likely allow them to use the call letters on the AM side, but it's up to ABC/Disney to decide if they can use them on the FM side. If ABC/Disney really wanted to, they could strip the heritage call letters from the AM side. I don't know how many cases the owners of a set of call letters stripped the station of its call letters, especially heritage call letters, from a station. I only know of one case in South Bend Indiana. There used to be WNDU AM/FM, when it was owned by Notre Dame University. When they sold the station, Federated Media was supposed to buy both stations, which Notre Dame would have allowed them to keep the calls. But when the deal fell through, and Artistic Media was looking to buy the stations, Notre Dame stripped both the AM & FM of their heritage call letters. Now instead of WNDU AM/FM, they're WNDV AM/FM.
 
Did I miss something? Isn't Citadel getting the ABC stations in Chicago? I thought that ABC was only holding on to ESPN & Radio Disney stations. I believe that WLS and WZZN are part of the deal. Citadel is getting WABC & WPLJ in NYC, but not 1050 WEPN (ESPN Radio) and 1560 WQEW (LMA'd by ABC from The New York Times to air Radio Diz).

WLS and WABC have been talk radio longer than they were "MusicRadio" at this point and right-wing talk at that. Not sure that it would help or hurt the stations (on either side of the deal) at this point.
 
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