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Trump funding cuts to PBS/NPR
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I, respectfully, disagree.
You can believe what you want to believe. But he's telling everyone what he wants to do. In plain daylight.
He's telling news organizations what to report and how to report it. If they diverge, he threatens them. That's not how the first amendment works.
Perhaps what you disagree with is where I said he "wants to." Because in some ways, he already has.
I'm sure the stations will have a work-around. Maybe pledge drives every other week instead of twice a year. Or they emulate Iheart/Audacy/etc. and RIFs all around. No more Bert & Ernie, just Bert. Maybe Small BIrd. Rowlf, the dog being put down. The Count: "That's 1 unemployment check, a ha ha ha...TWO, two unemployment checks, a ha ha ha......" Longer shifts for whomever is left. Maybe reality shows: "Survivor PBS", "I'm An NPR Correspondent; Help Me Out Here!" , "Not So Fresh Air."
Biden/Obama didn't want/need/try to control the press ... they already did.
PBS and NPR can pay for themselves and everyone else can contribute like they always do and did if they like it so much. Not a hard concept. Has nothing to do with conservative or liberal. If your product is worth it then let the people who support it do so. For those of you that love WVIZ and WKSU open up your wallets (which I am sure many of you have) and support them. They can also do more underwriting. The Government doesn't need to fund any type of broadcasting anymore.
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Right after you turn off CNN MSNBC, CBS, NBC and ABC and find a reputable news source. Your supposed news sources are just as biased if not more so than the ones your complaining about. See Jake Tapper's apology tour right now for details. I am under no obligation to support WKSU. I listened to maybe one or two shows on Public Radio (Car Talk being the main one) However, I never donated a dime cause I didn't find any of their other programs worth listening too. Totally my choice. If someone else did that is great to donate your money to support them.
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Just for the record...what seems to get lost in the discussion of the founding of Pub Bcsting was that it wasn't just about news...these stations were very much supposed to about music and arts and culture...Public radio has allowed itself to become synonymous with NPR and mostly its news/talk programming. I'm not sure who is being served these days by the repetitive nature of what is being programmed. Take a show like "Here and Now"...which is basically Morning Editon reheated...do we need to hear those same stories rehashed again? I firmly believe pub radio boxed itself in by tieing itself too closely to just being a repeater for what NPR offers. A weekend devoted to story telling shows? Yawn. Public radio just superserves a core audience who feels the 189th discussion of the situation in Ukraine somehow shares new light on the subject, or another post-modern artist lamenting that people who aren't buying her neo pre-Columbian collage pieces are morons. Pass.
Did either ever threaten to shut down Fox News or conservative talk radio? Did they ban them from the white house briefings?
They DO pay for themselves. As everyone knows, the federal funding is a small part of the funding. The federal money they get is based on the amount of local money they raise. But the federal funding was based on the public broadcasting act, passed by congress. If the government wants to change that system, then change the law. a presidential EO can't do that. The congress has funded CPB through 2026.
The government is one of the largest commercial advertisers today. The various government agencies buy advertising on commercial radio and TV. So are you saying that should end also?
That's nonsense.
Here are some specifics: The state of Ohio receives $21,288,000 from the corporation from public broadcasting. Here's the breakdown for the city of Cleveland:
| Ohio | Cleveland | ideastream Public Media | Ready to Learn | $12,000 |
| Ohio | Cleveland | WCPN | Radio Community Service Grant | $664,151 |
| Ohio | Cleveland | WVIZ | Other System Support | $30,878 |
| Ohio | Cleveland | WVIZ | Television Community Service Grant | $1,904,234 |
How much of a "cut" does a local PBS station get for each "premium" or pledge during one of T.J.'s Rock & Roll (etal) fundraising breaks?
As one person said earlier, many of the national children-oriented shows (past and present) that got their start on PBS are now making billions on their franchises with videos, toys, books, albums and public appearances. Some of the shows for the adult viewership, like Antiques Road Show, are making large profits for their off-television activities as well. What percentage of their profits goes towards funding PBS?
Heck, Barney and Elmo alone could likely fund a good chunk of PBS and their affiliate's funding that could be cut in government.
I'm genuinely curious - what news sources do you recommend?
From what my foggy mind remembers, after PBS got nothing for the millions in Barney merchandise, they made sure that never happened again and wrote themselves into merchandising profits for shows that came after that.
I agree there. As I said in an earlier post pretty much the only show I enjoyed was Car Talk. It was fun lighthearted, and you can even learn a thing or two about cars. I agree about the rehashing of the news stories. If they just had a news show in AM and PM drive and music the rest of the day
My point was people on both sides think they're sources of info are unbiased and the other side is biased. Why would Biden ban anyone? 99% of the media during his time was fawning in adulation over Biden. I think maybe one reporter (Doocy on FOX) actually asked questions that were critical of Biden's administration. Why would you ban news sources that are carrying the pail for you? But I m not going to go around and around on here about this cause eventually what happens is these threads gets closed. Listen to what you want I couldn't care less but don't tell me only side is biased. I m not changing your mind you're not changing mind. Arguing politics with people online I don't know ranks up there with watching paint dry. Peace out and Happy Memorial Day
My point is it doesn't matter if either side is biased. There are no exceptions to the first amendment. The president isn't the arbiter of what is biased or not. He has a first amendment right to criticize, but not to use the power of the government to shut it down. In this country, the media is allowed to criticize the president or the government. Today is Memorial Day, and a lot of soldiers fought and died so we could enjoy those rights. Let's celebrate our freedoms and our rights, and not look for ways to take rights away from others.
Believe whatever you want as I said. I m not changing your mind you're not changing mine. Nobody is taking your rights away but all we will do is go around and around and around. You'll keep telling me they are I will keep telling you that they aren't. If you want to fearmonger for the next 4 years have at it. It is your choice. As I said I m out. Good luck to you.
All I'm telling you is everyone is free to say whatever. You are free to decide if it's biased. That's not for the government to decide. It's pretty simple.
But should Government pay for that? I say no.
There are plenty of wealthy arts and culture enthusiasts who can and do support it. Government should focus on safety, infrastructure and other necessities.
I know it's a spectrum, but arts and culture are outside the range of necessity, IMO.
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