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TULSA RATINGS

I'm a big fan of that station even though I wasn't in the market at the time of 14 and 92K.

A few years ago I was able to get ahold of some airchecks of Mel, Brian Cain and some others of the crew.

Didn't Kelly Cash work there?

-GT




> I agree with you both. It takes talent to beat a heritage
> station. Unless KVOO gets very lucky, it is not likely that
> they will beat KWEN. I only met the PD from KVOO once (I
> don't remember his name) but he seemed very small market. I
> was surprised that he had the job. Andy is a smart
> programmer, but I don't think he gets to run the show. I
> also don't think that Andy takes much input from the PD.
> (and I can't blame him since he is 100 times more talented.)
>
>
> KVOO will always serve a purpose as the #2 country station
> in the market. With their low overhead, they will do just
> fine. Keep in mind that the call letters do have heritage
> of their own. Both stations have good signals so there is
> no "signal advantage" in this battle.
>
> Back in the mid-1980's, 92K was doing very well. Then KAYI
> came in with 100,000 watts and squashed them. I think
> KELI-FM was a 3,000 watt out of BA at the time. The massive
> signal advantage helped put 92K out of the format. That was
> a good example of talent with a little signal advantage
> help. 92K covered Tulsa County, but was marginal in the
> rest of the metro. That was a classic radio battle.
>
> > I think it'll be hard for them to beat K95. I'll give you
> > that. In fact, I'd say that it's HIGHLY unlikely that KVOO
>
> > will ever beat K95.
> >
> > But stranger things have happened. Plus, experience has
> > something to do with it. But experience isn't everything.
> > Talent has alot to do with it. I've seen talented young
> > programmers come in and beat the pants off of heritage
> > competition.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > As far as country - there is no way KVOO will ever beat
> > K95.
> > > The PD for KVOO does not have the experience to beat
> K95!
> >
> > > K95 is superior in many different ways.
> > >
> >
>
 
I remember Mel. Don't remember Brian Cain or a Kelly Cash.
Where are they now? I do remember that the station sounded awesome.
I think 92.1 holds the record in the market for format changes since 1980.



> I'm a big fan of that station even though I wasn't in the
> market at the time of 14 and 92K.
>
> A few years ago I was able to get ahold of some airchecks of
> Mel, Brian Cain and some others of the crew.
>
> Didn't Kelly Cash work there?
>
> -GT
>
>
>
>
> > I agree with you both. It takes talent to beat a heritage
>
> > station. Unless KVOO gets very lucky, it is not likely
> that
> > they will beat KWEN. I only met the PD from KVOO once (I
> > don't remember his name) but he seemed very small market.
> I
> > was surprised that he had the job. Andy is a smart
> > programmer, but I don't think he gets to run the show. I
> > also don't think that Andy takes much input from the PD.
> > (and I can't blame him since he is 100 times more
> talented.)
> >
> >
> > KVOO will always serve a purpose as the #2 country station
>
> > in the market. With their low overhead, they will do just
>
> > fine. Keep in mind that the call letters do have heritage
>
> > of their own. Both stations have good signals so there is
>
> > no "signal advantage" in this battle.
> >
> > Back in the mid-1980's, 92K was doing very well. Then
> KAYI
> > came in with 100,000 watts and squashed them. I think
> > KELI-FM was a 3,000 watt out of BA at the time. The
> massive
> > signal advantage helped put 92K out of the format. That
> was
> > a good example of talent with a little signal advantage
> > help. 92K covered Tulsa County, but was marginal in the
> > rest of the metro. That was a classic radio battle.
> >
> > > I think it'll be hard for them to beat K95. I'll give
> you
> > > that. In fact, I'd say that it's HIGHLY unlikely that
> KVOO
> >
> > > will ever beat K95.
> > >
> > > But stranger things have happened. Plus, experience has
> > > something to do with it. But experience isn't
> everything.
> > > Talent has alot to do with it. I've seen talented young
> > > programmers come in and beat the pants off of heritage
> > > competition.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > As far as country - there is no way KVOO will ever
> beat
> > > K95.
> > > > The PD for KVOO does not have the experience to beat
> > K95!
> > >
> > > > K95 is superior in many different ways.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
 
Kelly Cash is the morning co-host on K95 & she is great. A super nice person & very talented. Heck, I remember when Star 103 used to be country! :)


> I remember Mel. Don't remember Brian Cain or a Kelly Cash.
> Where are they now? I do remember that the station sounded
> awesome.
> I think 92.1 holds the record in the market for format
> changes since 1980.
>
>
>
> > I'm a big fan of that station even though I wasn't in the
> > market at the time of 14 and 92K.
> >
> > A few years ago I was able to get ahold of some airchecks
> of
> > Mel, Brian Cain and some others of the crew.
> >
> > Didn't Kelly Cash work there?
> >
> > -GT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I agree with you both. It takes talent to beat a
> heritage
> >
> > > station. Unless KVOO gets very lucky, it is not likely
> > that
> > > they will beat KWEN. I only met the PD from KVOO once
> (I
> > > don't remember his name) but he seemed very small
> market.
> > I
> > > was surprised that he had the job. Andy is a smart
> > > programmer, but I don't think he gets to run the show.
> I
> > > also don't think that Andy takes much input from the PD.
>
> > > (and I can't blame him since he is 100 times more
> > talented.)
> > >
> > >
> > > KVOO will always serve a purpose as the #2 country
> station
> >
> > > in the market. With their low overhead, they will do
> just
> >
> > > fine. Keep in mind that the call letters do have
> heritage
> >
> > > of their own. Both stations have good signals so there
> is
> >
> > > no "signal advantage" in this battle.
> > >
> > > Back in the mid-1980's, 92K was doing very well. Then
> > KAYI
> > > came in with 100,000 watts and squashed them. I think
> > > KELI-FM was a 3,000 watt out of BA at the time. The
> > massive
> > > signal advantage helped put 92K out of the format. That
>
> > was
> > > a good example of talent with a little signal advantage
> > > help. 92K covered Tulsa County, but was marginal in the
>
> > > rest of the metro. That was a classic radio battle.
> > >
> > > > I think it'll be hard for them to beat K95. I'll give
> > you
> > > > that. In fact, I'd say that it's HIGHLY unlikely that
> > KVOO
> > >
> > > > will ever beat K95.
> > > >
> > > > But stranger things have happened. Plus, experience
> has
> > > > something to do with it. But experience isn't
> > everything.
> > > > Talent has alot to do with it. I've seen talented
> young
> > > > programmers come in and beat the pants off of heritage
>
> > > > competition.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as country - there is no way KVOO will ever
> > beat
> > > > K95.
> > > > > The PD for KVOO does not have the experience to
> beat
> > > K95!
> > > >
> > > > > K95 is superior in many different ways.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
 
Okay. Didn't put her together with the morning show on K95. (she hardly says her first name!) I also remember K-Fox 103.3. Absolutely one of the WORST country stations EVER. Bill Payne knows how to sell stations to Cox and make money. He shouldn't program radio stations. If I recall, 103.3 is one of the best signals in the market. I even think that it once once owned by ORU. (Wayyy back)

I remember visiting K-Fox when it was at the Fall's Shopping Center. I always thought is was a terrible waste of 100,000 watts. I wonder what the Cox Boys paid for that one? You know it was good.



> Kelly Cash is the morning co-host on K95 & she is great. A
> super nice person & very talented. Heck, I remember when
> Star 103 used to be country! :)
>
>
> > I remember Mel. Don't remember Brian Cain or a Kelly
> Cash.
> > Where are they now? I do remember that the station
> sounded
> > awesome.
> > I think 92.1 holds the record in the market for format
> > changes since 1980.
> >
> >
> >
> > > I'm a big fan of that station even though I wasn't in
> the
> > > market at the time of 14 and 92K.
> > >
> > > A few years ago I was able to get ahold of some
> airchecks
> > of
> > > Mel, Brian Cain and some others of the crew.
> > >
> > > Didn't Kelly Cash work there?
> > >
> > > -GT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I agree with you both. It takes talent to beat a
> > heritage
> > >
> > > > station. Unless KVOO gets very lucky, it is not
> likely
> > > that
> > > > they will beat KWEN. I only met the PD from KVOO once
>
> > (I
> > > > don't remember his name) but he seemed very small
> > market.
> > > I
> > > > was surprised that he had the job. Andy is a smart
> > > > programmer, but I don't think he gets to run the show.
>
> > I
> > > > also don't think that Andy takes much input from the
> PD.
> >
> > > > (and I can't blame him since he is 100 times more
> > > talented.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > KVOO will always serve a purpose as the #2 country
> > station
> > >
> > > > in the market. With their low overhead, they will do
> > just
> > >
> > > > fine. Keep in mind that the call letters do have
> > heritage
> > >
> > > > of their own. Both stations have good signals so
> there
> > is
> > >
> > > > no "signal advantage" in this battle.
> > > >
> > > > Back in the mid-1980's, 92K was doing very well. Then
>
> > > KAYI
> > > > came in with 100,000 watts and squashed them. I think
>
> > > > KELI-FM was a 3,000 watt out of BA at the time. The
> > > massive
> > > > signal advantage helped put 92K out of the format.
> That
> >
> > > was
> > > > a good example of talent with a little signal
> advantage
> > > > help. 92K covered Tulsa County, but was marginal in
> the
> >
> > > > rest of the metro. That was a classic radio battle.
>
> > > >
> > > > > I think it'll be hard for them to beat K95. I'll
> give
> > > you
> > > > > that. In fact, I'd say that it's HIGHLY unlikely
> that
> > > KVOO
> > > >
> > > > > will ever beat K95.
> > > > >
> > > > > But stranger things have happened. Plus, experience
> > has
> > > > > something to do with it. But experience isn't
> > > everything.
> > > > > Talent has alot to do with it. I've seen talented
> > young
> > > > > programmers come in and beat the pants off of
> heritage
> >
> > > > > competition.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As far as country - there is no way KVOO will ever
>
> > > beat
> > > > > K95.
> > > > > > The PD for KVOO does not have the experience to
> > beat
> > > > K95!
> > > > >
> > > > > > K95 is superior in many different ways.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
 
HI GARY! :)

You're right, talent has a lot to do with it. I know Eric, he does afternoons on KVOO & he's a talented guy. I don't know the morning people, but they sound good.

The programmer however - I bet the staff has a hard time respecting someone with just a little more experience than the part-time staff! :) Trust me, K95 has nothing to worry about! Now when Moon Mullins was there, it was a different story - That guy is a legend!!!



> I think it'll be hard for them to beat K95. I'll give you
> that. In fact, I'd say that it's HIGHLY unlikely that KVOO
> will ever beat K95.
>
> But stranger things have happened. Plus, experience has
> something to do with it. But experience isn't everything.
> Talent has alot to do with it. I've seen talented young
> programmers come in and beat the pants off of heritage
> competition.
>
>
>
> >
> > As far as country - there is no way KVOO will ever beat
> K95.
> > The PD for KVOO does not have the experience to beat K95!
>
> > K95 is superior in many different ways.
> >
>
 
KFOX 103.3
Wow...bad station. Cox did them a favor.

I remember when I was a baby DJ in the 80's. You couldn't miss the KFOX sign from the street. It was like a huge sign that read:

"COME IN OFF OF THE STREET, BOTHER THE STAFF AND LOOK AT THE RADIO STATION."

So being young and interested in radio, I did.

I walked right into the lobby, asked for the PD...the receptionist pointed to the conference room and said "He's in a meeting with some clients."

Like an idiot, I took that as an invitation to go get him myself. I walked over to the door and walked in on the meeting. The receptionist just sat there looking numb. The PD quickly hopped up and walked me out of the building. Then he apparently shot the receptionist a few choice words. At least it seemed like he was chewing her out from outside of the glass looking in. Then he went back to his meeting.

My guess: Her receptionist days were cut short.


> Kelly Cash is the morning co-host on K95 & she is great. A
> super nice person & very talented. Heck, I remember when
> Star 103 used to be country! :)
>
>
> > I remember Mel. Don't remember Brian Cain or a Kelly
> Cash.
> > Where are they now? I do remember that the station
> sounded
> > awesome.
> > I think 92.1 holds the record in the market for format
> > changes since 1980.
> >
> >
> >
> > > I'm a big fan of that station even though I wasn't in
> the
> > > market at the time of 14 and 92K.
> > >
> > > A few years ago I was able to get ahold of some
> airchecks
> > of
> > > Mel, Brian Cain and some others of the crew.
> > >
> > > Didn't Kelly Cash work there?
> > >
> > > -GT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I agree with you both. It takes talent to beat a
> > heritage
> > >
> > > > station. Unless KVOO gets very lucky, it is not
> likely
> > > that
> > > > they will beat KWEN. I only met the PD from KVOO once
>
> > (I
> > > > don't remember his name) but he seemed very small
> > market.
> > > I
> > > > was surprised that he had the job. Andy is a smart
> > > > programmer, but I don't think he gets to run the show.
>
> > I
> > > > also don't think that Andy takes much input from the
> PD.
> >
> > > > (and I can't blame him since he is 100 times more
> > > talented.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > KVOO will always serve a purpose as the #2 country
> > station
> > >
> > > > in the market. With their low overhead, they will do
> > just
> > >
> > > > fine. Keep in mind that the call letters do have
> > heritage
> > >
> > > > of their own. Both stations have good signals so
> there
> > is
> > >
> > > > no "signal advantage" in this battle.
> > > >
> > > > Back in the mid-1980's, 92K was doing very well. Then
>
> > > KAYI
> > > > came in with 100,000 watts and squashed them. I think
>
> > > > KELI-FM was a 3,000 watt out of BA at the time. The
> > > massive
> > > > signal advantage helped put 92K out of the format.
> That
> >
> > > was
> > > > a good example of talent with a little signal
> advantage
> > > > help. 92K covered Tulsa County, but was marginal in
> the
> >
> > > > rest of the metro. That was a classic radio battle.
>
> > > >
> > > > > I think it'll be hard for them to beat K95. I'll
> give
> > > you
> > > > > that. In fact, I'd say that it's HIGHLY unlikely
> that
> > > KVOO
> > > >
> > > > > will ever beat K95.
> > > > >
> > > > > But stranger things have happened. Plus, experience
> > has
> > > > > something to do with it. But experience isn't
> > > everything.
> > > > > Talent has alot to do with it. I've seen talented
> > young
> > > > > programmers come in and beat the pants off of
> heritage
> >
> > > > > competition.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As far as country - there is no way KVOO will ever
>
> > > beat
> > > > > K95.
> > > > > > The PD for KVOO does not have the experience to
> > beat
> > > > K95!
> > > > >
> > > > > > K95 is superior in many different ways.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by GaryThompson on 12/12/05 03:27 PM.</FONT></P>
 
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