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Tulsa ratings

ElCheapo said:
The first time was after my short-lived APD gig at KHITS that brought me to Tulsa in the first place (had NO idea of how insane Sean Philips really was when I took that gig!)

Now, THAT'S interesting! Especially since the APD position was never discussed with you. Perhaps you've confused it with the PRODUCTION DIRECTOR'S position for which you were hired.

Interesting as well how you throw that "insane" word around so casually, when it is so often applied to YOU by your former co-workers in Amarillo, Oklahoma City, Renda/Tulsa, Cox/Tulsa, CC/Tulsa, and on, and on, and on.

Take your pills, man, and don't go starting crap with people who have done nothing to you.

P.S. You didn't get a full-time job at Cox/Tulsa because they were horrified by your bizarre behavior, which, as we both know, started virtually immediately upon your going to work there, just as it did at KHITS and later at KISS. Also, just as at KHITS, you quit Cox literally milliseconds before being shown the door. It's your well-established pattern. As soon as you realize you're about to get canned, you quit so you can save face by saying you were treated poorly and wouldn't take it anymore.

I'm sorry you're such an unhappy guy, Robbie, but you're never going to find any measure of satisfaction from your life until you quit blaming everyone else for your problems and take responsibility for resolving them yourself.
 
ThreeGuesses said:
ElCheapo said:
The first time was after my short-lived APD gig at KHITS that brought me to Tulsa in the first place (had NO idea of how insane Sean Philips really was when I took that gig!)

Now, THAT'S interesting! Especially since the APD position was never discussed with you. Perhaps you've confused it with the PRODUCTION DIRECTOR'S position for which you were hired.

Interesting as well how you throw that "insane" word around so casually, when it is so often applied to YOU by your former co-workers in Amarillo, Oklahoma City, Renda/Tulsa, Cox/Tulsa, CC/Tulsa, and on, and on, and on.

Take your pills, man, and don't go starting crap with people who have done nothing to you.

P.S. You didn't get a full-time job at Cox/Tulsa because they were horrified by your bizarre behavior, which, as we both know, started virtually immediately upon your going to work there, just as it did at KHITS and later at KISS. Also, just as at KHITS, you quit Cox literally milliseconds before being shown the door. It's your well-established pattern. As soon as you realize you're about to get canned, you quit so you can save face by saying you were treated poorly and wouldn't take it anymore.

I'm sorry you're such an unhappy guy, Robbie, but you're never going to find any measure of satisfaction from your life until you quit blaming everyone else for your problems and take responsibility for resolving them yourself.
How's life at the casino Sean?

As I recall, I was interviewed for and given an APD title at KHITS. At the time, you couldn't decide how you were going to divy up the workload. In the end you decided you would have two "APDs" - APD-Production (me) and APD-Promotions (Matt The Bratt.)

How you assigned titles was bizarre, and THAT is well established. Carly Rush was the "PD" of KHITS during your entire tenure there, yet had no PD duties or responsibilities. That isn't a slight on Carly - she's a sweetheart - that's just the way it was.

I quit KHITS after sitting in the control room with you while you were on the air and calling various record reps telling a slanderous and fictional story about Matt after you fired him. It wasn't enough that you fired him, you had to attempt to damage his reputation as well. I decided right then and there that I wasn't going to give 5 years of my life to you and have the same thing happen to me, though I already had serious misgivings by that point... The story you told Matt and I about your father beating you and breaking both of your knees after you prank called him at the hotel he owned made my skin crawl and explained a lot of your behavior.

As for my friends and associates, anyone with some time to kill should feel free to give them a call - they'll be more than happy to vouch for me. Call anyone at KQIZ Amarillo right up to the GM. Call anyone at KKWD Oklahoma City - I just got off the phone with someone there asking me for a favor a few minutes ago. If you can find anyone that worked at KIZS while I while I was working there, feel free to give them a call too. Heck, for that matter - call anyone at Cox - why don't you call Steve Hunter the OM? He may not be thrilled with me right at the moment, but I'm certain he would tell you I'm basically an OK guy and was in zero danger of being dismissed there.

Who'll vouch for you Sean? Your behavior over the years is well documented. Why did you leave KHKS? Why did you leave WBTS? Go ahead - share with the rest of the class...

If I were in your position Sean, I might be inclined to try to revise history too. Thank God I'm not.
 
Ahh... the memories!
 
Robbie,

First...Sean Phillips has accomplished more in his career then you will ever dream of. You were flushed out of Tulsa. I know enough people at CC and Cox who tell the same story on you. You have no reason to point fingers at anyone for your failures. Cox didn't offer you a full time job because you are a liability. From what you have written, I doubt anyone will ever take you seriously. There is even a club owner in town that has a few good stories on you. SO SHUT UP and GO AWAY. Nobody lied to you, they just didn't want to hurt your feelings.

Journal, Cox & CC are all different companies. Each has positives and negatives. From my experience, Cox is a very fair company. They treat their people with respect. I am sure they did their homework before putting on the new station. If you study the Miller/Kaplan report, the cluster seems to be doing fine. KVOO is doing better, but we have respect for KWEN. Country is hot right now and we are both doing well. KFAQ is still doing extremely well financially...so don't worry or write it off. This was not a news-talk book for Tulsa. Again, KFAQ has respect for KRMG as they probably do for KFAQ. (in a competitive kind of way.)

CC should be very happy with KMOD. I hope they are paying their morning show a lot of money. They deserve it.

Robbie...go fix something and leave the programming to the pros. OKAY?
 
JournalGuy said:
Robbie,

First...Sean Phillips has accomplished more in his career then you will ever dream of. You were flushed out of Tulsa. I know enough people at CC and Cox who tell the same story on you. You have no reason to point fingers at anyone for your failures. Cox didn't offer you a full time job because you are a liability. From what you have written, I doubt anyone will ever take you seriously. There is even a club owner in town that has a few good stories on you. SO SHUT UP and GO AWAY. Nobody lied to you, they just didn't want to hurt your feelings.

Journal, Cox & CC are all different companies. Each has positives and negatives. From my experience, Cox is a very fair company. They treat their people with respect. I am sure they did their homework before putting on the new station. If you study the Miller/Kaplan report, the cluster seems to be doing fine. KVOO is doing better, but we have respect for KWEN. Country is hot right now and we are both doing well. KFAQ is still doing extremely well financially...so don't worry or write it off. This was not a news-talk book for Tulsa. Again, KFAQ has respect for KRMG as they probably do for KFAQ. (in a competitive kind of way.)

CC should be very happy with KMOD. I hope they are paying their morning show a lot of money. They deserve it.

Robbie...go fix something and leave the programming to the pros. OKAY?
First, I really have no comment on Sean's abilities or lack thereof. He's worked at some big stations and that attracted me to him in the first place. If I had known the whole story of why he no longer works at those big places beforehand, I would have avoided him. Enough said.

Second, Cox DID offer me a full-time job. It certainly wasn't what I was led to believe I'd be offered for several months, but it was a full-time position with all the potential liability that comes with one. If I was such a liability, that makes zero sense - but hey - we're talking about Cox's bad decisions here, right?

Third, I most certainly pissed some people at CC off in Tulsa. That tends to happen when they're terminated on your advice - you're probably one of them - but I had a great relationship with all of the people there who really mattered at the time. If you have any doubt as to the circumstances under which I left and took the engineering position with Clear Channel contact CC Matthews. He asked me to reconsider more than once and asked me to help him with some projects after I left.

Fourth, I know just one club owner in town and he's one of my best friends. I doubt very seriously that he would have anything negative to say about me - period. I talk to him weekly. In fact, he called me not even 5 minutes ago speculating as to who you might be so he could set you straight. As far as I'm concerned, your credibility was shot to hell right there.

Clearly I touched some nerves with my commentary, and clearly some people are eager to take pot shots at me right now. That's fine... My commentary is based in fact - not opinion or conjecture. Fact - KKCM is sucking wind as far as Arbitron is concerned.

I have a fairly long and successful track record on the programming side. Sure, I've made some missteps along the way - Sean Philips being one of the bigger ones - but haven't we all?

My last programming effort was in Lubbock - and I took a station there from sign-on to over a 10 share in one book and grew that even higher while taking the competition from an over 13 share to just over 6. Since I left, that station has slowly been moving in the wrong direction while the competition has been rebounding slightly. Clearly, I know what I'm doing on the programming side.

Now, you could turn your nose in the air and say "well, that was a smaller market." I took that position because my father had just been diagnosed with cancer at the time and it was close to home.

Regardless - since I left there - I turned down a PD position in Norfolk-Virginia Beach and a creative services position in Phoenix to be where I am now, and last I checked - those are both significantly larger markets than Tulsa.

I was blessed with a few different skill sets. Right now, I choose to utilize the one that pays best.

Any more anonymous pot shots from the peanut gallery? Go ahead... I'm thick skinned and I can take them.

Better yet - if you want to have any credibility - put a name with it.

Assuming you're actually at Journal - you must be a board-op.
 

40 years on the radio in 28 radio markets, the bull[EDIT] on this board makes me laugh!!!
I've been here at Cox Radio(KJSR)Star-103.3 for 4 years now doing Middays, Cox is the best people/broadcaster oriented type Corp Company and I've worked for them"ALL"!!!

So, Board People, Bottom Line, if you are working and winning then you would not be running down Cox, we are a Corporation, that's today's Radio Agenda, and, if you do know about "REAL" ratings you know that KMOD got a massive kiss nobody in this day and age goes up 6-8 points in any Book, unless the person filling it out has a "STROKE" and falls on the ARB line!!!!!!!!!!

LOL,

Andy Barber..see I use my real name


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Sean Phillips...LOL!!!
Nobody knows more about that than me my lawyer..LOL that lasted only 13 minutes how funny..LOL
Then went over to KISS-FM and pounded them!!!(I was on K-hits for 7 years Mornings I signed them on)
 
Good Lord, the childish level of this thread to this point is embarassing! Please, take the name calling and accusation slinging elsewhere, okay?

Now for some legit questions:

1) Do we believe Spirit is here to stay? Or is at a capped experiment? If so, for how long?

2) Who's winning the morning show battle between KHTT and KTBT? The show on KTBT is horrible, IMO, but it's pulling some okay numbers. BUT, my question to Billy Madison and Co. is, do they realize that they are supposed to be on a FEMALE targeting radio station?

3) What happens with KQLL? Rumors have been floating about a possible shift in the Rhythmic AC / "Movin" direction in the past couple months.

4) What's the situation in the KHTT/KTBT night battle? As I recall, Jet Black beat Tim Rainey in the Winter book. What happened in the Spring? And, how does the rapid turnover of Tim Rainey's replacement affect KHTT?

5) What is going to be the effect of the KMOD diary situation, over the long haul? We saw the "adjusted" numbers, but is the radio station truly holding that number?

6) IF Spirit 102.3 goes away, does anyone see any chance of a pure CHR (i.e., one that actually plays "All the Hits") emerging on that frequency to try to chip away at KHTT?
 
This board is getting fun! Thanks guys for putting a smile on my face and recalling some good ol' days. All pettyness aside... the ratings... go ask any random joe on the street. Get your faces out of books that are so outdated that they really don't show your audience. Why are they even still getting the books by mail? Most people won't sit down and fill them out - not accurately, if at all. Acutrack (I believe that's what it is called) is more reliable - people are willing to answer a survey by phone more so than sit down and keep a diary. Probably is tabu to say so, but I recieved a diary here awhile back and I just randomly filled it out based on the jocks I liked - I rarely turn on the radio anymore... why? Ask people. It's the same ol' stations playing the same ol' tired crap. "There isn't any good radio in Tulsa" is something you will hear if you just listen.

There are some damn good jocks in this town. SP and Andy to name a few, but unless you are the in the OM/PD position or the Morning Guy you are just a card-reading jock, like Chuck Stevens, great jock - but stuck in a midday slot reading cards. Hell, Hunter put him on in your place - you were always much better at reading cards anyway. Pitty because this town could really shine with some real talent if stations would quit relying so heavily on cards and give them SOME freedom to be themselves - and your listeners will love you for it. But more so than the jocks is the music, going back to the post about the Christian market - any of you even BEEN in a church? You don't know your audience. A TON of churches have turned from the piano playing grannies and hymns to what could pass as a Modern Rock band. These people listen to CDs, Ipods and even XM because they don't have much of a choice as far as Tulsa radio is concerned.

KXOJ and the new Spirit both play the same drab comtempary music. LIVE 101 had potential - actual best selling hits - what a concept! I agree it was more by accident than design but it had a following and all with one MAJOR downfall that kept it from growing - it's poor signal. Why would a business want to put their hard-earned money into a station they can't even get a clear signal with in their car, business or even their own home. Now toss that format, that idea, on the 102.3 channel and see what sparks. And speaking of 102.3, everyone misses Rock. Take a drive, look at the large number of Live bumper stickers that are still out there. It needed some fine tuning in the programing department and a good powerful signal. It just is amazing how, even with that tiny signal, people listened. It's an untapped market out there. What is selling Modern style Christian music. Your audience will follow you anywhere if you can provide them with a place that plays it. Give them a good alternative to Mix and KXOJ - something that isn't "their mom's/grandma's station". (No offence)

I didn't think that XM would have much sucess in Tulsa but if you don't give people what they want and keep playing the same songs over and over, you will lose a nice chunk to XM where they can find some variety... or even more so as just about everyone I know - the downloaded music crowd.

Mix take your 80's weekends to play something OTHER than what is played already to death during the week -dig into that 80's vault for some great variety...and as far as the best mix of the 80's 90's and today... it isn't "today" if it isn't on the charts. You hold onto a song and test it until it has cooled and then play it. Granted you are now could rule the market if you would get brave enough to play something "hot" while it is Hot and calm down, that doesn't mean having to play 50cent or some other rap-crap song.. there is lots of good music out there... why not play it? Lean a bit more to the "today" aspect and you will take over where Khits and Kiss once pulled. KXOJ you have became that Christian standard as KMOD has become the Classic Rock standard in Tulsa. If it ain't broke don't fix it. But your listeners are getting older and that younger crowd that is steadly growing into your demographics want something new. KHits has gone the way of dick and fart jokes... there seems to be nothing that is beneath them these days. The heart and soul of that station left the day that The New Guy signed off.

Anyways. I am not a programer, I don't own any stock in CC or Cox... I am just a random joe that wanted to put my two-cents in...

I'll hop off of my soapbox now - ;D
 
CHRprogrammer said:
Good Lord, the childish level of this thread to this point is embarassing! Please, take the name calling and accusation slinging elsewhere, okay?

Now for some legit questions:

1) Do we believe Spirit is here to stay? Or is at a capped experiment? If so, for how long?

2) Who's winning the morning show battle between KHTT and KTBT? The show on KTBT is horrible, IMO, but it's pulling some okay numbers. BUT, my question to Billy Madison and Co. is, do they realize that they are supposed to be on a FEMALE targeting radio station?

3) What happens with KQLL? Rumors have been floating about a possible shift in the Rhythmic AC / "Movin" direction in the past couple months.

4) What's the situation in the KHTT/KTBT night battle? As I recall, Jet Black beat Tim Rainey in the Winter book. What happened in the Spring? And, how does the rapid turnover of Tim Rainey's replacement affect KHTT?

5) What is going to be the effect of the KMOD diary situation, over the long haul? We saw the "adjusted" numbers, but is the radio station truly holding that number?

6) IF Spirit 102.3 goes away, does anyone see any chance of a pure CHR (i.e., one that actually plays "All the Hits") emerging on that frequency to try to chip away at KHTT?
Can't answer most of your questions since I can't hear the signals, but here's my opinion:

1) Spirit probably isn't up against any sort of clock. Rock 102.3 clearly wasn't.

4) I never listened to Rain, but Jet is a solid jock. Knowing where he came from early in his career, he deserves serious props for what he's developed into. Turnover in most formats is a bad thing. In a CHR nightshow, it might have the opposite effect and generate interest - kids are fickle - so it may actually help KHITS a bit depending on the replacement.

5) I'd say KMOD's numbers are fairly accurate. They've pretty much re-acquired what Rock 102.3 had taken away. That, and there are some great mainstream rock hits out right now. Rock radio will probably see a resurgence across the board.

6) I don't see CHR on 102.3. It wouldn't mesh with Cox Tulsa culture. If it did happen, it would be the stepchild of the cluster like Rock 102.3 was.
 
ElCheapo said:
How's life at the casino Sean?

As I recall, I was interviewed for and given an APD title at KHITS. At the time, you couldn't decide how you were going to divy up the workload. In the end you decided you would have two "APDs" - APD-Production (me) and APD-Promotions (Matt The Bratt.)

How you assigned titles was bizarre, and THAT is well established. Carly Rush was the "PD" of KHITS during your entire tenure there, yet had no PD duties or responsibilities. That isn't a slight on Carly - she's a sweetheart - that's just the way it was.

I quit KHITS after sitting in the control room with you while you were on the air and calling various record reps telling a slanderous and fictional story about Matt after you fired him. It wasn't enough that you fired him, you had to attempt to damage his reputation as well. I decided right then and there that I wasn't going to give 5 years of my life to you and have the same thing happen to me, though I already had serious misgivings by that point... The story you told Matt and I about your father beating you and breaking both of your knees after you prank called him at the hotel he owned made my skin crawl and explained a lot of your behavior.

As for my friends and associates, anyone with some time to kill should feel free to give them a call - they'll be more than happy to vouch for me. Call anyone at KQIZ Amarillo right up to the GM. Call anyone at KKWD Oklahoma City - I just got off the phone with someone there asking me for a favor a few minutes ago. If you can find anyone that worked at KIZS while I while I was working there, feel free to give them a call too. Heck, for that matter - call anyone at Cox - why don't you call Steve Hunter the OM? He may not be thrilled with me right at the moment, but I'm certain he would tell you I'm basically an OK guy and was in zero danger of being dismissed there.

Who'll vouch for you Sean? Your behavior over the years is well documented. Why did you leave KHKS? Why did you leave WBTS? Go ahead - share with the rest of the class...

If I were in your position Sean, I might be inclined to try to revise history too. Thank God I'm not.

Life in the casino is GREAT Robbie; primarily because I deal with a better class of people. Your attempt to make a cheap shot at the life choice I made has no effect. Not having to deal with unstable, narcissistic, schizoid freaks (And yes, I certainly count you among them) was one of the primary reasons I decided I didn't want to do radio anymore, and there isn't a day I'm not glad I made that choice. This is a perfect example of why. 5 years after you left the radio station after less than three weeks of working there, you're on a radio board calling me names for no reason whatsoever, except that you must have an enemy; there must be some reason other than your own outrageous mood swings that caused you to work at KHITS for such a short time, and you must therefore lay that blame every time you mention that job. By the way, you mentioned your "13-year" career; interesting, isn't it, just how many jobs you've had in that career? Radio is certainly a high-turnover field, but your resume, as a testament to your stability, speaks for itself.

And no, you weren't "APD/Production". You asked about the APD position several times, as you began interviewing before I'd announced the position, but I was always clear with you that I was interviewing you for a PRODUCTION position.

And as far as your "quitting"? I could swear you did so after I pulled you into Pat's office after your behavior got so bizarre I was no longer comfortable having a one-on-one conversation with you. In that meeting, after your manic tirade, paranoid accusations and conspiracy theories, Pat told you your only options were to follow the directions given you by me or look for work elsewhere. I then told you I was absolutely appalled that we were having that conversation just two weeks after your hiring and was wondering whether it wouldn't be best to simply cut our losses, and that I would do exactly that if you again displayed even the slightest hint of the behavior you'd exhibited up to that point. It was THEN that you "quit".

And as far as the other things you said go? You know, Robbie, in the 5 years since I last saw you, I've had people come back to me literally dozens of times with stories of the outrageous, slanderous half-truths and outright lies you've told about me; attacking me not just professionally, but personally. In all that time, I've never once told anyone of the things you told me after the feedback I'd gotten back on you from your previous places of employment was so bad. I sympathised with your stories of the ongoing struggle you'd had with your "issues", admired you for being so open and up-front about them with me, and believed your promises to make positive change and be my "most valuable asset", as you said you'd be. And you know what? In many ways, you were. I found you to be absolutely brilliant. In the few weeks you were there, your production was excellent; several times breath-takingly so, your knowledge of computers was off the scale, your ability to think on your feet was amazing. I honestly believe you may be one of the most intelligent people I have ever known.

That said, virtually every one of the "issues" you'd been so open about and which had been your downfall in virtually every other position you'd held previously began to manifest themselves in less than a week! Time and again, I spoke to you about them, reminded you of your resolution to deal with them, and even tried to assist you in finding that help, all to no avail.

Bottom line? I was in a unique position to be able to get the real story on you when I checked up on your past employment, and I did so. Armed with that information, virtually every manager I know would've taken a pass on you. I chose to take you at your word and give you a chance, and less than a week later, all your promises had gone out the door. Instead of gratitude, I got grief.

And now, here we are, 5 years later, and you're taking cheap shots; starting fights, then painting yourself as a victim. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

Finally, on your assertion that I am JournalGuy? Just another of your paranoid delusions. I haven't posted on here since they went to the current format, where you had to register a screen name. That's over 3 years. A friend called and told me of your post, I created this name to respond, and here we are.
 
Wow... This is getting deep.

Hey Sean, I didn't know you got so close to your employees as you did with Robbie! I think the closest you and I ever got was when I delivered a pizza to your place and you gave me a tip! How could you forget "Papa John The Pizza Man"?!? Oh well, I hope the Casino life is going well. Believe it or not, I'm staying out of trouble now. Just spinning my wheels waiting to break back in to the Tulsa market. The chat about a Christian CHR excites me because "only if" someone like Cox would give it a shot I would be a perfect fit!

Hey Robbie, "Journal Guy" is full of crap when he said that a "club owner" is talking smack about you. I too, as you know, keep up with who you know and the last time I saw him (two weeks ago when my sister got married) he had nothing ugly to say when I asked about you! I've had my own problems with this board. I've been accused of being a different poster and I can relate to how these type of threads can pull a lot of emotion from someone.

As bad as I'd like to say that Spirit needs to go (and flip to Christian CHR) there is one thing that should be noted. Christian listeners are ones who develop a relationship with the on air talent. A Christian station's listener base is usually smaller but the TSL is out of this world due to the fact that they are not button pushers. That being said, KXOJ is going through quite a bit of talent turn over which makes them almost at even with Spirit. Spirit might do good sticking around to see if that monster coverage advantage and their current talent doesn't surpass KXOJ's current numbers and even break into new numbers KXOJ never reached!

Just my two cents from a guy starving to get back home! (Shameless plee huh?)

Matt Baldridge
AKA PK "The Preachers Kid"

GM / Three Trees Communications
WWWD / MACON - WJYF / VALDOSTA

www.thehook.fm
 
djmattshady said:
Wow... This is getting deep.

Hey Sean, I didn't know you got so close to your employees as you did with Robbie! I think the closest you and I ever got was when I delivered a pizza to your place and you gave me a tip! How could you forget "Papa John The Pizza Man"?!?

I could never forget Papa John The Pizza Man! And how about all the talks and meals we shared when you were in sales, wanting to move over to programming, or all the times we talked afterwards after you did move over? I thought I was pretty involved.

I'm glad to hear you're staying out of trouble. I always thought you were pretty smart and talented, and hoped a little time and life experience would help you to mature and put your talents to good use.

And I sure hope your current employer isn't reading about your desire to leave and get a job in Tulsa!
 
ThreeGuesses said:
Life in the casino is GREAT Robbie; primarily because I deal with a better class of people. Your attempt to make a cheap shot at the life choice I made has no effect. Not having to deal with unstable, narcissistic, schizoid freaks (And yes, I certainly count you among them) was one of the primary reasons I decided I didn't want to do radio anymore, and there isn't a day I'm not glad I made that choice. This is a perfect example of why. 5 years after you left the radio station after less than three weeks of working there, you're on a radio board calling me names for no reason whatsoever, except that you must have an enemy; there must be some reason other than your own outrageous mood swings that caused you to work at KHITS for such a short time, and you must therefore lay that blame every time you mention that job. By the way, you mentioned your "13-year" career; interesting, isn't it, just how many jobs you've had in that career? Radio is certainly a high-turnover field, but your resume, as a testament to your stability, speaks for itself.

And no, you weren't "APD/Production". You asked about the APD position several times, as you began interviewing before I'd announced the position, but I was always clear with you that I was interviewing you for a PRODUCTION position.

And as far as your "quitting"? I could swear you did so after I pulled you into Pat's office after your behavior got so bizarre I was no longer comfortable having a one-on-one conversation with you. In that meeting, after your manic tirade, paranoid accusations and conspiracy theories, Pat told you your only options were to follow the directions given you by me or look for work elsewhere. I then told you I was absolutely appalled that we were having that conversation just two weeks after your hiring and was wondering whether it wouldn't be best to simply cut our losses, and that I would do exactly that if you again displayed even the slightest hint of the behavior you'd exhibited up to that point. It was THEN that you "quit".

And as far as the other things you said go? You know, Robbie, in the 5 years since I last saw you, I've had people come back to me literally dozens of times with stories of the outrageous, slanderous half-truths and outright lies you've told about me; attacking me not just professionally, but personally. In all that time, I've never once told anyone of the things you told me after the feedback I'd gotten back on you from your previous places of employment was so bad. I sympathised with your stories of the ongoing struggle you'd had with your "issues", admired you for being so open and up-front about them with me, and believed your promises to make positive change and be my "most valuable asset", as you said you'd be. And you know what? In many ways, you were. I found you to be absolutely brilliant. In the few weeks you were there, your production was excellent; several times breath-takingly so, your knowledge of computers was off the scale, your ability to think on your feet was amazing. I honestly believe you may be one of the most intelligent people I have ever known.

That said, virtually every one of the "issues" you'd been so open about and which had been your downfall in virtually every other position you'd held previously began to manifest themselves in less than a week! Time and again, I spoke to you about them, reminded you of your resolution to deal with them, and even tried to assist you in finding that help, all to no avail.

Bottom line? I was in a unique position to be able to get the real story on you when I checked up on your past employment, and I did so. Armed with that information, virtually every manager I know would've taken a pass on you. I chose to take you at your word and give you a chance, and less than a week later, all your promises had gone out the door. Instead of gratitude, I got grief.

And now, here we are, 5 years later, and you're taking cheap shots; starting fights, then painting yourself as a victim. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

Finally, on your assertion that I am JournalGuy? Just another of your paranoid delusions. I haven't posted on here since they went to the current format, where you had to register a screen name. That's over 3 years. A friend called and told me of your post, I created this name to respond, and here we are.
What can I say Sean... I won't call you insane anymore...

I will call you a liar, because you clearly are.

Checking up on my employment history...

Let's see...

I started out in Amarillo at KAKS. Stayed there for 2 years and moved to KQIZ when KAKS flipped from CHR to automated Z-Rock. I was at KQIZ for 5 years and went through two PDs there. I consider both of them to be good friends. One found God in a major way and now runs a consultancy for Christian stations, the other I just can't fathom saying anything bad. He was my production mentor and we've always had a great relationship.

Move on to KHFI. I made some poor choices in a business venture I had on the side and left there a bit early as a result, but again - I just can't see the PD saying anything bad about me. If she said anything negative at all, it would be that I didn't stay long enough.

Then there's KKWD. The APD there then and now is my oldest and best friend - we went to high school together. His son is my Godson. Beyond that, when I left - and it was because I wasn't happy with the money I was making - they retained me to do their imaging for them. Since guys that do that are literally a dime a dozen, I don't think they would have kept me on retainer if there was any ill will. Come to think of it - I produced a series of teen dances with them after I moved to Tulsa. Again, if they didn't care for me - why would they partner with me for such a venture? There are plenty of mobile DJs in Oklahoma.

Then there's KHITS. I left for one reason and one reason only. If it appears my attitude toward you soured, it was your treatment of Matt - plain and simple. I started to see myself in his shoes. When the episode I cited earlier occurred, that was it. I came in early the next morning and met with Pat. She called you into her office. I related what had transpired in the control room the day before and you denied it. I told Pat that I didn't think I could work for someone I felt was morally bankrupt and that was that. Surely as the PD, Sean - you could have fired me on your own if that was your inclination. You wouldn't have needed to have a meeting with Pat (with me anyway.) Just another fine reason why your version of events makes no sense. You don't strike me as the type who would need hand holding from the GM to handle a discipline problem.

And c'mon Sean... I'm 5'11" - you're what 6'7"? You were uncomfortable having a one-on-one conversation with me? Did you really need a 120 pound woman to protect you?

That's pretty much the job history you would know about... That brings us full circle to today...

I now work with the very first OM/PD I ever had - when I was 16 years old in Amarillo. He's a department head and so am I. If he thought so ill of me, I doubt I could have landed the job - and I really doubt he would have been so persistent about me taking it - I turned him down the first time it was offered.

Anyway - people can believe whatever they want. Life is good and it's going to continue to be good. Sounds like you've found some happiness at the casino so roll with that. For what it's worth, I think you're an intelligent guy too but I don't understand your behavior. I didn't then and I don't now.

I just got back from dinner with one of the PDs here and I've gotta go finish voicetracking my night show. Then I'll call it a night and try it again tomorrow.
 
djmattshady said:
Hey Robbie, "Journal Guy" is full of crap when he said that a "club owner" is talking smack about you. I too, as you know, keep up with who you know and the last time I saw him (two weeks ago when my sister got married) he had nothing ugly to say when I asked about you!
I'd hope not! I was at the 4th of July party at his lake house and stayed with his family the whole weekend! (Well, the part I didn't spend with KKWD's APD and his family anyway...)

If he had anything bad to say, it probably would have been that I splashed him with a jet ski!

Some of Sean's contacts like to embellish stories. I know who they are, because they're the same people that relay stories about Sean to me (with the same embellishment I'm sure.) How do you think I found out he was working at a casino?

As for Sean being JournalGuy and ThreeGuesses - just look at the writing style.

They both double space between sentences, they both type words in ALL CAPS for emphasis and JournalGuy is a Sean Phillips cheerleader. The fact that I haven't known anyone at Journal since Kick 99 flipped, I only knew one person there then and she's outta radio kinda drives it all home. I find it rather hard to believe that anyone at Journal would be having any conversations with anyone about me. I'm simply don't see how the Tulsa part of my career would be that interesting to anyone, and as Sean points out - it has been 5 years.

It doesn't take a freakin' genius to figure that one out.
 
ElCheapo said:
What can I say Sean... I won't call you insane anymore...

I will call you a liar, because you clearly are.

Checking up on my employment history...

Then there's KHITS. I left for one reason and one reason only. If it appears my attitude toward you soured, it was your treatment of Matt - plain and simple. I started to see myself in his shoes. When the episode I cited earlier occurred, that was it. I came in early the next morning and met with Pat. She called you into her office. I related what had transpired in the control room the day before and you denied it. I told Pat that I didn't think I could work for someone I felt was morally bankrupt and that was that. Surely as the PD, Sean - you could have fired me on your own if that was your inclination. You wouldn't have needed to have a meeting with Pat (with me anyway.) Just another fine reason why your version of events makes no sense. You don't strike me as the type who would need hand holding from the GM to handle a discipline problem.

And c'mon Sean... I'm 5'11" - you're what 6'7"? You were uncomfortable having a one-on-one conversation with me? Did you really need a 120 pound woman to protect you?

I didn't need a 120 lb woman to "protect" me, I'd brought my general manager up to date on the situation with you as soon as your behavior began to be unacceptable and you hadn't corrected it after our second talk about it (BEFORE anything came up with any other employees, your supposed reason for leaving). I initially simply asked for her advice on how to best deal with the situation, but, after several other employees came forward, telling of your attempting to "recruit" them to go to Pat, etc., her advice was to terminate you; Oklahoma is an at-will work state, and you'd come nowhere near completing the 90 day probationary period laid out in the company's employment policy. She felt it was best to cut our losses right then and there. Upon my saying I wanted to give it one more try, she advised me not to have any more disciplinary conversations with you unless they were witnessed; preferrably by her.

That's why, when I came into the studio to update a liner card and found you on your cellphone and ripping songs on your laptop (both of which I'd told you were verboten, both before you took the job, and several times during your tenure when you refused to follow that direction), I took it into Pat's office when you became agitated and argumentative, where we had the meeting I described.

It was the next morning when you went to Pat and told her you couldn't work for someone as "morally bankrupt" as me, but you only said that after you'd first tried to convince her to fire me and hire you as program director. When that failed, you offered to stay as long as you didn't have to report to me any longer. It was only after you got a negative response to that one that you "took your leave". I was brought into that meeting because she was as uncomfortable meeting with you alone as she was having me meet with you alone. It wasn't a question of physical threat, it was a question of dealing with a potentially unbalanced person, who could be capable of doing or saying anything.

Regarding your "outrage" over my treatment of another employee; I won't discuss any other employee with you, but, I will point out that the conversations you overheard my having with record reps were my trying to learn why they each had letters, on station letterhead, under "my" signature (which I'd never seen before they'd been faxed to me by said record reps), requesting free talent for a "KHITS station concert" which I'd never heard of. This issue came to light when a concert promoter (and his attorney) demanded a meeting with Pat and I. When I told him I did not believe any station employee had committed to getting him free talent for a concert, much less allowed him to use the station's name, as he'd alleged, he produced a fax, on station letterhead, and signed by a station employee making just those promises. It was then that I, as directed by my general manager, began to search for information. When I could get none in-house, I was forced to go to the record reps to try and get the story, and track it down piece-by-piece thereafter.

And your "outrage" at my "moral bankruptcy" sure didn't stop you from going to the 21st birthday bash I threw for Billy, did it? It sure didn't stop you from eating the free steak I bought you, or from taking the cash I gave you at the "gentleman's club". It also didn't stop you from having the gall to come up and ask me for even more money after you'd blown what I'd already given you. Talk about "morally bankrupt"!

ElCheapo said:
As for Sean being JournalGuy and ThreeGuesses - just look at the writing style.

They both double space between sentences, they both type words in ALL CAPS for emphasis and JournalGuy is a Sean Phillips cheerleader. The fact that I haven't known anyone at Journal since Kick 99 flipped, I only knew one person there then and she's outta radio kinda drives it all home. I find it rather hard to believe that anyone at Journal would be having any conversations with anyone about me. I'm simply don't see how the Tulsa part of my career would be that interesting to anyone, and as Sean points out - it has been 5 years.

Anybody that knows me knows if I have something to say, I say it. I don't need "supporters", and I sure don't "create" them.

What's sad is the level of your paranoia. I can't imagine having to live with the massive ups and downs you experience, seeing "enemies" and "plots" everywhere you look. You can write all the long diatribes you like about all of your friends from past jobs, but the bottom line is you've had a consistent pattern of conflict, making enemies, and machiavellian backstabbing every place you've been. The only thing unique about KHITS was that it took the shortest time for your toxic personality to "go critical" (I think. I could be wrong)
 
Let's just take that little lithium pill and see the doc in the morning, OK? I don't know about the other guy, but Sean calling him manic, etc. is just absolutley freak'in hillarous. Irronic would be an understatement. Sean, I'm glad you've got into a business that presumably pushes your buttons less. It's hard for even perfectly sane people to keep from "loosing it" at times in this crazy business of corporate radio.

Broadcasting from a porta-potty at construction site at an indian gaming casino near Broken Arrow... K-SH#(S!
 
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