7 is our local CBS affiliate and obviously I'm not DXing anything else from here. But I grew up in Western Ohio, and I do remember the days when WHIO-TV signed off overnight, and in the early morningWTVF in Wheeling was a regular catch right before Garner Ted Armstrong and Sunrise Semester. Occasionally even at the cable headend Detroit's 7 would come in over the top of Dayton's 7. I've picked up Dayton's 7 in Lafayette, IN as well as Chicago's. And I worked in Quincy IL, home of KHQA channel 7. E skip rarely makes it that high, what have you seen?
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TV Channel of the week: 7
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The nearest Channel 7 station is KAZT-TV, Prescott, which I can't get because they only run 8.71 kW, ND. Their digital operation will move from Channel 25 to Channel 7 on 17 February, 2009, but, I don't think that will make it down here, either (3.2 kW, ND). I moved to Mesa in September, 1988 (I was almost eight years old); before that, I lived in Los Ángeles, where I watched KABC-TV on Channel 7.
In Durham, NC, WITN in Washington, NC or WDBJ in Roanoke, VA are what we see on channel 7. WITN seemed to come in lots more frequently before installing their digital antenna a few years ago. I don't recall receiving any of the three other channel 7's around the region (WITV, Charleston, SC, WSPA, Spartanburg, SC or WJLA, Washington, DC)
How about KIRO-TV from Seattle? I'm not sure about that station. I never got that station while I was living in Oregon in those days, but the signal was also somehow blocked by KOAC-TV (7), the PBS station from the Oregon State University in Corvallis. On some days whenever the weather is clearer or somewhat, you could likely Dx that station in some parts of Eastern Washington (whenever KSPS-TV would sign off), British Columbia, Oregon (when KOAC would sign off, but I'm not sure on that), Idaho, Montana, Alberta, Alaska, Nevada (i'm not sure) & probably parts of California, too. What's your opinion on that?
WHIO has a heck of a signal. Back when this was allowed, our Columbus cable company used to pull in its signal and plop it on an unused channel when our local CBS affiliate, WBNS, pre-empted network shows. When I used a TV with just an antenna visiting family in Auglaize County, about an hour north of Dayton, 7 was by far the most dependable signal other than the Lima stations.
It also came in better than any other Dayton station in Cincinnati (I remember getting 7 at Reds Opening Day one year when I brought my small portable TV and 7 was on the Reds TV Network) and most of the way to Columbus.
Pretty sure it's carried outside the Dayton DMA in places like Washington Court House and Chillicothe, if not farther away.
It also came in better than any other Dayton station in Cincinnati (I remember getting 7 at Reds Opening Day one year when I brought my small portable TV and 7 was on the Reds TV Network) and most of the way to Columbus.
Pretty sure it's carried outside the Dayton DMA in places like Washington Court House and Chillicothe, if not farther away.
In Celina and St. Marys they carry 2, 7, 16, 22 and 45 from Dayton (growing up it was just 2 and 7 with Ft Wayne supplying the other network affiliates). In that area now you can see Dayton, Ft Wayne, Columbus, Lima and Toledo. With the outside antenna, WHIO was almost always solid as a rock and WLW-D a bit iffy. I don't know anyone who had a UHF antenna pointed toward Dayton...the typical setup was a VHF antenna aimed at Dayton, a UHF aimed at Ft Wayne and a smaller UHF directed toward Lima for WIMA/WLIO.
Back in my serious TV Dxing days, channel 7 was fairly clear -- closest station was WDAM/Hattiesburg, MS. So, I got a nice mix of stations. Several states, including Indiana down on the Mississippi Coast.
But the most interesting station seen, I suppose, was Pinar Del Rio, Cuba. Weak, but there one afternoon, running the fabled "Palm Tree" pattern. I only saw this station once.
DE
But the most interesting station seen, I suppose, was Pinar Del Rio, Cuba. Weak, but there one afternoon, running the fabled "Palm Tree" pattern. I only saw this station once.
DE
I'll admit I haven't done much serious TV dxing in many years now. KHQA Hannibal-Quincy is local for me, but back in the day when it went to sleep around 1:00 AM, I pulled in KWWL in Waterloo, Iowa quite a bit, and WTVW Evansville, Indiana a few times. KWWL had one of the best versions of the Star Spangled Banner I've ever heard!
From the towns of Monee, Manteno and Beecher IL (all about 35-45 miles south of Chicago) I have logged these stations over the years, typically by nulling my local ABC station WLS-TV Chicago...
KHQA Hannibal-Quincy MO (CBS)
KWWL Waterloo IA (NBC)
WHIO Dayton OH (CBS)
WPBN Traverse City MI (NBC)
WSAU Wausau WI (CBS)
WTVW Evansville IN (Fox; was ABC when I last got it)
WXYZ Detriot MI (ABC)
I've heard of people logging E-Skip as high as Channel 7. I once caught police/fire signals from Alabama and Texas at 155 and 159 MHz via E-Skip, and at the same time noticed fluttering interference on Channels 7 and 8. However, no single signal would punch through strong enough on either channel to identify, or even get a glimpse of video.
KHQA Hannibal-Quincy MO (CBS)
KWWL Waterloo IA (NBC)
WHIO Dayton OH (CBS)
WPBN Traverse City MI (NBC)
WSAU Wausau WI (CBS)
WTVW Evansville IN (Fox; was ABC when I last got it)
WXYZ Detriot MI (ABC)
I've heard of people logging E-Skip as high as Channel 7. I once caught police/fire signals from Alabama and Texas at 155 and 159 MHz via E-Skip, and at the same time noticed fluttering interference on Channels 7 and 8. However, no single signal would punch through strong enough on either channel to identify, or even get a glimpse of video.
> I've heard of people logging E-Skip as high as Channel 7.
Yeah, I have seen sporadic-E into high-band VHF just once (a long time ago). In that opening, I identified a station on 8 and one on 9, but didn't ID anything on 7. I saw interference to my local on 10, too.
There was a massive opening back in July, 2006 that brought many folks IDs as high as channel 13. But, I am a ham now, and spent the opening on 144 MHz (which was a zoo!).
DE
Yeah, I have seen sporadic-E into high-band VHF just once (a long time ago). In that opening, I identified a station on 8 and one on 9, but didn't ID anything on 7. I saw interference to my local on 10, too.
There was a massive opening back in July, 2006 that brought many folks IDs as high as channel 13. But, I am a ham now, and spent the opening on 144 MHz (which was a zoo!).
DE
In Nashville channel 7 is open...buy depending on conditions,
you can see Evansville, IN...Jackson, TN, or Mt Cheaha State Park, AL.
you can see Evansville, IN...Jackson, TN, or Mt Cheaha State Park, AL.
Back in the day when I wuz going to skrool in Philly we lived on the 19th floor on the southeast side of a 24 story apartment building in Center City. This was before the poverty pimps in city council got their payoff to allow cable TV construction in the city of Brother Lee Love. Since the Roxborough tower farm was on the direct opposite side of the building, we received zero Philadelphia TV..nothing at all. But, we did get 1 station almost clear as a bell. WABC-TV Channel 7 from their top of the WTC stick around 90 miles away. Apparently their signal bounced off another tall building about five blocks south of us and right into our 24 inch RCA B&W monster. The irony was that Larry Kane had just made the jump from Channel 6 (Whadaya like about Action Noose? Action Noose!) and moved up to join Roger and Bill at 1330 Avenue of the Americas on channel 7. We watched Larry every night. Eventually he returned to Philly and now does cable and radio work. Larry I think was the eleventh Beatle.
Here in Central Texas, Channel 7 means KTBC-TV, which to my knowledge was the only TV station ever owned by a U-S President. Lyndon Johnson and wife Lady Bird owned the station from the time it signed on in the early 50's until they sold it, I think, in the late 70s or early 80s to the LA Times Mirror newspaper.
It was a long-time CBS affiliate that went FOX after the Fox Network bought it sometime in the 90's.
It was a long-time CBS affiliate that went FOX after the Fox Network bought it sometime in the 90's.
Growing up in Central Conn (New Britain) we were about 90-100 mi (air miles) to the NYC and Bos Ch 7 transmitters. Ch 7 was/is the NYC ABC affiliate; no need to watch it as we had a good Ch 8 New Haven and an excl. Ch 40 Holyoke MA. Ch 7 NYC was not watchable except under tropo conditions. Ch 7 Bos was watchable in color but it was quite fuzzy and as such was not watched unless there was something like a real good movie on. No wonder I'm nearly legally blind!! Or was that because I found my dad's hidden Playboy collection at an early age.
In Central Mass ch 7 Bos is very strong as expected. Nothing else. Never DX'd the VHF band in those days, just played with the UHF band w/ the rotor.
When we lived in Sufflok VA we got Ch 7 Washington NC on amplified rabbit ears from about 80-90 mi away but it was duplicte programing. A reliable station, sometimes near city grade in tropo light conditions. Sometimes we watched the 11pm news just to get a little perspective for that area. But I can't recall anything else.
From Ochechobee FLA I camped several nites and there were stations on the VHF high band from 7-13 incl Ch 7 Miami both nites. The UHF band was lit up those nites as well so i'm guessing I hit a tropo light situation since all catches were 150 mi max. No ch 7's on the wabbit ears from Englewood FL ever.
In Central Mass ch 7 Bos is very strong as expected. Nothing else. Never DX'd the VHF band in those days, just played with the UHF band w/ the rotor.
When we lived in Sufflok VA we got Ch 7 Washington NC on amplified rabbit ears from about 80-90 mi away but it was duplicte programing. A reliable station, sometimes near city grade in tropo light conditions. Sometimes we watched the 11pm news just to get a little perspective for that area. But I can't recall anything else.
From Ochechobee FLA I camped several nites and there were stations on the VHF high band from 7-13 incl Ch 7 Miami both nites. The UHF band was lit up those nites as well so i'm guessing I hit a tropo light situation since all catches were 150 mi max. No ch 7's on the wabbit ears from Englewood FL ever.
Where I lived in upstate New York growing up, our cable system carried WKBW-TV from Buffalo, and they picked it up using an over the air setup. When this station signed off at night, very often we could see WXYZ Detroit, which ran all night. (This was the mid 1980s that I am talking about here). Often, Detriot was just as clear as the Buffalo signal. Later on that decade, the Global TV network from Ontario must have signed on a new repeater on channel 7. When this happened, we got a mish mash of WXYZ and the Global repeater, except when Global would sign off, then WXYZ was in the clear once again.
Not being a seasoned DXer, I have to ask, would the conditions under which I received these stations best be described as tropo?
Not being a seasoned DXer, I have to ask, would the conditions under which I received these stations best be described as tropo?
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Before KAIL 53 in Fresno swithed to digital Ch.7,I used to get KGO S.F.,KABC L.A.@ occationally KRCR in Redding.2,4,5,9,11 SF and2,4,5,9,11,13, LA ,3,6,10,13,Sacramento 3,6,12 Central coast CA.
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