Remember when there where TV channels on 70 and above? What stations do you remember getting on those channels? The only one I can faintly remember as a kid was CITY 79 from Toronto a couple of times coming in from where I lived in Lorain, OH.
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TV Channels 70 - 83
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I watched CITY on 79 during a trip thru Toronto in 1980. Three years prior, give or take a year, my folks and I camped out at the town of Spray, Oregon, where there were 70-83 translators of about 4 channels (I can't remember where the mains were---can anybody tell me?).
Aside from that, I don't recall watching any 70-83's.
I even remember when we had channels 52 to 69, but that's a thread for another day!
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Aside from that, I don't recall watching any 70-83's.
I even remember when we had channels 52 to 69, but that's a thread for another day!
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I believe CITY moved again, to 31 analog, but I would think that they have gone digital now.
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I don't think that CITY (the Toronto transmitter) itself was ever on channel 31. CITY-1, a powerful repeater of CITY licenced to Woodstock (Kitchener-Waterloo area) was on analog channel 31 and IS on digital channel 31.
I had seen CBEFT Windsor on 78 (for much of my childhood, the only French I knew was "say bay ugh eff tee, canal soixante-dix-nuit, Weendsur", LOL) Also saw CBLFT-1, 76, Kitchener and CITY on 79 when trop was in. CITY was the first to leave, the other two left within a week of each other (first logbook entry of CBLFT after move to 54 was 29 September 1982).
Never did log a translator in the "translator band" from home. I probably would have seen Detroit's channel 83 repeater of MPATI, or WBGU from Bowling Green on channel 70 if I had known when to look for them.
I had seen CBEFT Windsor on 78 (for much of my childhood, the only French I knew was "say bay ugh eff tee, canal soixante-dix-nuit, Weendsur", LOL) Also saw CBLFT-1, 76, Kitchener and CITY on 79 when trop was in. CITY was the first to leave, the other two left within a week of each other (first logbook entry of CBLFT after move to 54 was 29 September 1982).
Never did log a translator in the "translator band" from home. I probably would have seen Detroit's channel 83 repeater of MPATI, or WBGU from Bowling Green on channel 70 if I had known when to look for them.
1L6 is right: CITY's Toronto transmitter never operated on 31, you're thinking of the Woodstock transmitter.
From Madison, Wis. I once logged W70AO Fond du Lac, Wis., a translator of Milwaukee's WISN-TV ch. 12. On a trip to Ely, Nevada I saw a handful of local translators above channel 69.
A few weeks ago, the FCC renewed the license of K70DR Blue Earth, Minnesota. Actually, I suspect that may be a typo as the station still shows up as deleted in the CDBS database. However, the K70DR license was still valid as of the date of the DTV transition in 2009. A post on the KTTC blog in Rochester indicates the translator was in fact still operating on channel 70 at that time! - the engineer reports driving out to Blue Earth to replace the analog channel 10 receiver feeding the channel 70 translator with a digital unit..
Who would be watching it is beyond me, as it's been at least 20 years since you could buy a TV set that would tune above channel 69...
From Madison, Wis. I once logged W70AO Fond du Lac, Wis., a translator of Milwaukee's WISN-TV ch. 12. On a trip to Ely, Nevada I saw a handful of local translators above channel 69.
A few weeks ago, the FCC renewed the license of K70DR Blue Earth, Minnesota. Actually, I suspect that may be a typo as the station still shows up as deleted in the CDBS database. However, the K70DR license was still valid as of the date of the DTV transition in 2009. A post on the KTTC blog in Rochester indicates the translator was in fact still operating on channel 70 at that time! - the engineer reports driving out to Blue Earth to replace the analog channel 10 receiver feeding the channel 70 translator with a digital unit..
Who would be watching it is beyond me, as it's been at least 20 years since you could buy a TV set that would tune above channel 69...
I remember when CITY was on 79, back in the day. It was a rather frisky channel, as well!
Speaking of UHF and hopefully not too far off topic, I had the old SR 3000 out (s/a this Ebay item http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Sears-5-Inch-Diagonal-Black-White-TV-AM-FM-PSB-Model-No-580-Works-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTk1/z/qRwAAOxyylVRi~Ry/$T2eC16J,!zQE9s3sr!RTBRi+RyZvBw~~60_57.JPG) and was receiving TV audio from a CBC affiliate.
I know that CTV Ottawa (CJOH), has a repeater in Desoronto ON, but is there still an analogue CBC transmitter, perhaps a repeater of CBO or CKWS, in my neck of the woods (eastern Ontario)?
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Speaking of UHF and hopefully not too far off topic, I had the old SR 3000 out (s/a this Ebay item http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Sears-5-Inch-Diagonal-Black-White-TV-AM-FM-PSB-Model-No-580-Works-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTk1/z/qRwAAOxyylVRi~Ry/$T2eC16J,!zQE9s3sr!RTBRi+RyZvBw~~60_57.JPG) and was receiving TV audio from a CBC affiliate.
I know that CTV Ottawa (CJOH), has a repeater in Desoronto ON, but is there still an analogue CBC transmitter, perhaps a repeater of CBO or CKWS, in my neck of the woods (eastern Ontario)?
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I see three possibilities:
CKWS' repeater on channel 26 at Prescott, 7200 watts.
CKWS' repeater on channel 36 at Smiths Falls, 10000 watts.
CHEX-TV-2, Oshawa, 5500 watts on channel 22. (actually, that's probably not "eastern" enough
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CKWS also has a repeater on channel 30 at Brighton, but that one has converted to digital. (done when it got kicked off channel 66)
To my knowledge all CBOT relayers are off; CBOT itself is the only OTA transmitter left.
CKWS' repeater on channel 26 at Prescott, 7200 watts.
CKWS' repeater on channel 36 at Smiths Falls, 10000 watts.
CHEX-TV-2, Oshawa, 5500 watts on channel 22. (actually, that's probably not "eastern" enough
)CKWS also has a repeater on channel 30 at Brighton, but that one has converted to digital. (done when it got kicked off channel 66)
To my knowledge all CBOT relayers are off; CBOT itself is the only OTA transmitter left.
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I'll be checking this season again for CBOT----I thought it was off.
Check & double check on CITY. Have they gone 100% digital yet? (not that I'd ever see it from FL)
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Check & double check on CITY. Have they gone 100% digital yet? (not that I'd ever see it from FL)
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cd637299 said:
CBOT's analog signal *is* off. They're now operating as a digital station on channel 25. But the various transmitters which relayed CBOT are off altogether - the CBC didn't convert any of their relay transmitters.
According to the I-C database, yes, all three CityTV transmitters in Ontario have converted to digital. They're all in mandatory markets.
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I remember this. It was long ago back in 1964. I was in 2nd grade in White Pigeon, Michigan. They used this for instruction in science class in White Pigeon.audioguy said:
No kidding! That is interesting. I never thought about trying to receive it over there at the lake. We had a pretty hard time just getting Kalamazoo, Grand Rapids, and Elkhart/South Bend after they came on the air on UHF. However, I used to watch the MPATI broadcasts from the western suburbs of Chicago on an RCA "New Vista" B&W portable set using the supplied loop antenna for UHF. That was a good set, although I have to admit that the picture from the plane did not hold very steady on the small indoor loop. Should have put up a better antenna!
audioguy said:
my elementary school in Louisville received MPATI broadcasts...also in 1964:
a large UHF antenna pointed north on a 30' tower pulled in a surprisingly good picture...with only
the occasional brief fade. I remember the dual ID slides...designating what program was up next:
ch 72 on the left...ch 76 on the right. on the portable TV at home with the standard loop...only brief bursts
of grainy picture thru the snow. IIRC...the schools in Louisville only used MPATI for a year or so...
and I spent a lot of time (unsuccessfully) explaining to my classmates that the shows were not live...
and that they really clould not hear the engine noise from the plane in the background.
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Would love to have seen the MPATI's. Are there any images online of the station signal? I see on Google Images the airplane, but no TV signals.
BTW, TV Marti has used airplanes for broadcast to Cuba in the last 10 years---not sure if they still do, or if they are back to the "Fat Albert" transmitter. But I have recorded TV Marti from Flamingo, FL, when they used the planes---you'd get a sharp picture one second, then seconds later, poof, then sharp again.
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BTW, TV Marti has used airplanes for broadcast to Cuba in the last 10 years---not sure if they still do, or if they are back to the "Fat Albert" transmitter. But I have recorded TV Marti from Flamingo, FL, when they used the planes---you'd get a sharp picture one second, then seconds later, poof, then sharp again.
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I seem to recall seeing WBGU Bowling Green, OH when it was on Channel 70. And there was a really strong tropo when I got CITY-TV on Channel 79 on a UHF Bowtie. Low antenna gain at those channels for most VHF-UHF antennas, and line loss of even 300 ohm transmission lines at Channel 79 meant that the bowtie would perform nearly as well on a second floor of a house as a typical outdoor antenna. And I seem to recall seeing CBEFT on Channel 78.
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