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TV-GUIDE EDITIONS WHERE NBC WAS NOT THE DOMINANT NETWORK

It seems almost all TV-Guides had more NBC stations than CBS, ABC. Were there any where
CBS or ABC (very doubtful) had the most stations? An NBC-CBS tie would not qualify. If a duopoly
only count the main network.

Could you list the year, date, edition, stations.....
 
gregg75 said:
It seems almost all TV-Guides had more NBC stations than CBS, ABC. Were there any where
CBS or ABC (very doubtful) had the most stations? An NBC-CBS tie would not qualify. If a duopoly
only count the main network.

Could you list the year, date, edition, stations.....

So you mean "dominant network" in terms of number of affiliates listed?

I grew up in LA. The TVG at that time (50s -60s) listed LA, San Diego. and Santa Barbara stations, so each network had 2 affiliates in the listing. The lone station in Santa Barbara ran programming from all 3 networks, then sometime in the 60s became an ABC affiliate. So if that is your standard, I guess ABC was "dominant."

The same was true with the SF Bay Area in the 70s - NBC and CBS listed two affiliates (San Francisco, and Sacramento), and ABC listed three - those two cities plus San Jose.

So I don't recall a time when NBC was dominant in terms of affiliates. In terms of ratings: over the decades, CBS has certainly been number 1 for many more years than the other two. ABC was the ratings winner for a few years in the early 70s (Fred Silverman era) and NBC was number one for awhile in the 80s, when it was running high with break-out shows like Cosby, Hill Street Blues, etc. But generally, the "Tiffany" network has been the winner.
 
Minnesota State Edition from the early 80's through its demise:

6 CBS stations (3, Duluth; 3*, Mason City IA; 4, Minneapolis; 7 Alexandria; 8*, La Crosse WI; 12 Mankato )
5 ABC stations (5, Minneapolis; 6*, Austin; 10, Duluth; 18*, Eau Claire WI; 19*, La Crosse WI; 42, Alexandria )
4 NBC stations (6, Duluth; 10*, Rochester; 11, Minneapolis; 13* Eau Claire WI),

And, eventually...
5 Fox stations (21, Duluth; 25*, La Crosse WI; 29, Minneapolis; 47*, Rochester; 48* Eau Claire WI)
 
The Eastern North Carolina edition, for one. In addition to the full complement of stations from Raleigh/Durham, Greenville/New Bern/Washington and Wilmington (at least I think low power CBS affiliate WILM, channel 10, was finally listed towards the end of local editions but I don't recall for certain), Greensboro/Winston-Salem/High Point market WFMY (CBS) and WGHP (ABC, later Fox) were included, but not NBC affiliate WXII (the former WGGT 48, which was a Fox satellite was once included but later dropped).

Also, Florence/Myrtle Beach/Lumberton's WBTW (CBS) and WPDE (ABC) were always carried, but the market's NBC station, WMBF came along after local editions ceased publication. Fox affiliate WFXB and CW affiliate WWMB were never listed.

That makes the count, towards the end of local editions, as follows:

Fox: 5 CBS: 4 (or 5 if WILM was indeed included), ABC: 4, NBC: 3.
 
Central Indiana Edition (after October 1971)
CBS: 8 Indianapolis, 10 Terre Haute, 18 Lafayette
NBC: 2 Terre Haute, 6 or 13 (1979 & later) Indianapolis
ABC: 13 or 6 (1979 & later) Indianapolis, 38 Terre Haute (1973-1995)
Fox: 38 Terre Haute (1995 & later), 59 Indianapolis
PBS: 20 Indianapolis, 22 Vincennes, 30 Bloomington, 49 Muncie

All black bullets/white numbers. Of course, Fox began in 1986 - 59 Indy was independent before then.

Indiana Edition (Late '50s/Early '60s)
CBS: 3 Champaign, 8 Indianapolis, 10 Terre Haute, (15) Ft. Wayne, (59)/(18) Lafayette
NBC: 6 Indianapolis, (33) Ft. Wayne, (49) Muncie
ABC: 13 Indianapolis, (21) Ft. Wayne

() = White bullet, black numbers
 
The Hartford/New Haven Edition of TV Guide listed the following affiliates in the last days of real listings around 2005:

WNBC-TV channel 4 New York City
WWLP-TV channel 22 Springfield, MA
WVIT-TV channel 30 New Britain, CT

It listed 3 ABC affiliates (New York City, New Haven and Springfield, MA), 2 CBS affiliates (New York City and Hartford), two FOX affiliates (New York City and Hartford), three PBS affiliates (Newark, NJ, Hartford and Springfield, MA), one UNI affiliate (Hartford), two UPN affiliates (Secaucus, NJ and New Haven) and two WB affiliates (New York City and Waterbury). I think WHPX-TV channel 26 of New London, CT was PAX/infomercials at the time? (They were the only PAX/ION station ever listed in our edition.)
 
The Cleveland edition for 1962-74 Generally had this setup

3 NBC Dominant-3, 12 (Erie) 21 (Youngstown)
4 CBS Dominant 8,11 (Toledo) 27 (Youngstown) 35 (Erie)
5 ABC Dominant 5, 13 (Toledo) 49/23(Akron) 24 (Erie) 33 (Youngstown)

At various times 11 and 13 were secondary NBC until WSPD took the NBC affiliation by the early 1970's
 
Well this may have happened more than I thought. Seems as if I remember that most of the
ones I've seen were NBC stacked.....almost everywhere had an NBC, but many were missing
either a CBS or ABC.
 
For a time in the early '80s, there was only one NBC affiliate in the NY Metro edition - WNBC-4. This was after NBC and 20 (from CT) parted ways and 30 hadn't yet been added to the listings.

Also, in the Central PA and Southeast PA editions, NBC was not the dominant network in the Guide. After 1995, each edition had three affiliates.

Southeast PA
NBC 2/11* (Baltimore), 3/10*, 8
CBS - 2/11/13*, 3/10*, 15*, 21, 43*
ABC - 2/13*, 6, 27
FOX - 5, 29, 43, 45

Central PA
NBC 3/10, 4, 8, 28
CBS 2, 3/10, 15*, 21, 22, 43*
ABC 6, 7, 16, 27
FOX - 5, 29, 38/56, 43

2, 11, and 13 are Baltimore - up until 1981 2 was CBS and 11 NBC; they switched. In 1995 they all switched - 2 to ABC, 11 back to NBC and 13 to CBS.

3 and 10 are Philly - up until 1995 3 was NBC and 10 CBS; they switched.

15 dropped CBS and became UPN (now CW) in 1995.

43 dropped CBS to be independent (and later a Charter FOX affiliate) in 1983.
 
For most of its existence, the Western Illinois Edition listed 3 ABC affiliates, 3 CBS affiliates, and 4 NBC affiliates. This does not count the listing of WBBM (CBS) Chicago as an overnight only station on certain cable systems.

ABC Affiliates:
3-KTVO Kirksville, MO
8-WQAD Quad Cities (Moline, IL)
19-WHOI (WIRL/WRAU) Peoria, IL

CBS Affiliates:
4-WHBF Quad Cities (Rock Island, IL)
7-KHQA Quincy, IL (licensed to Hannibal, MO)
31-WMBD Peoria, IL

NBC Affiliates:
6-KWQC (WOC) Quad Cities (Davenport, IA)
10-WGEM Quincy, IL
20-WICS Springfield, IL (became an ABC affiliate shortly before the local listings went away)
25-WEEK Peoria, IL

Some notes: KTVO was primary CBS/secondary ABC and NBC until 1968; this edition included listings for the now-defunct Channel 14-WJJY, an ABC affiliate in Jacksonville, IL, between 1969 and 1971 (no relation to the current Channel 14 licensed to Jacksonville, a PBS station); WGEM and KHQA both had secondary ABC affiliations during the 1960s.

In later years, this edition became heavy with Fox and PBS stations.

Fox:
18-KLJB Quad Cities
26-KJMH Burlington, IA (now KGCW and a CW affiliate)
32-WFLD Chicago (listed as a cable station)
43-WYZZ (WBLN) Bloomington, IL
55-WRSP Springfield, IL

PBS:
12-KIIN Iowa City, IA (part of Iowa Public Television; listed as a cable station)
Convocom/Network Knowledge stations, all listed as individual stations:
14-WSEC Jacksonville, IL
22-WMEC Macomb, IL
27-WQEC Quincy, IL
11-WTTW Chicago (listed as a cable station)
24-WQPT Quad Cities (licensed to Moline, IL)
36-KQCT Quad Cities (licensed to Davenport, IA; satellite of 24; now KQIN and part of Iowa Public Television)
47-WTVP Peoria, IL
 
harrisburgpatv said:
For a time in the early '80s, there was only one NBC affiliate in the NY Metro edition - WNBC-4. This was after NBC and 20 (from CT) parted ways and 30 hadn't yet been added to the listings.

In the New York Metropolitan Edition, I think channel 30 was added in the late '70s, while it was still WHNB-TV (though I could be wrong), but it was certainly there by 1979, after Viacom bought the station, boosted its power, and changed it into WVIT.

Yes, there was a time in the early '80s when only one NBC station was listed (WNBC-TV). But that was because TVG dropped 20 after 20 dropped NBC, and TVG dropped 30's listings for a unknown reason. But WVIT returned after a very short time and never left.
 
Illinois-Wisconsin Edition (circa mid-to-late 80s), each of the networks had four stations listed on their lineup, so no one network had a dominant lineup of stations than the others. PBS, however, would have six, if the Chicagoloand area's channels 20 and 56 were listed in this edition.

ABC: 7-Chicago, 12-Milwaukee, 13-Rockford, 27-Madison
CBS: 2-Chicago, 3-Madison, 6-Milwaukee, 23-Rockford
Fox: 24-Milwaukee, 32-Chicago, 39-Rockford (joined the network in '89), 47-Madison
NBC: 4-Milwaukee, 5-Chicago, 15-Madison, 17-Rockford
PBS: 10-Milwaukee, 11-Chicago, 21-Madison, 36-Milwaukee

Indies: 9-Chicago, 18-Milwaukee, 50-Chicago, 58-Milwaukee, 60-Chicago, 66-Chicago.

Note: Rockford's 13 and 17 swapped networks in 1995. Also, we all know the story of New World/Fox swaps, as it pertained to Milwaukee, involving channels 6, 24, and 58.
 
We were always at parity here in Rochester, NY - 3 each of ABC, CBS and NBC from Rochester, Buffalo and Syracuse, plus PBS from Rochester and Syracuse and later on, Fox from Rochester and Syracuse.
 
The Detroit Edition had:

CBS--2 (WJBK before 1994), 11 (WTOL), 62 (WWJ (II) 1994-present)
NBC--4 (WWJ (I)/WDIV), 13 (WTVG)
ABC--7 (WXYZ), 24 (WNWO)
FOX--2 (WJBK Since 1994), 50 (WKBD Before 1994)
PBS--30 (WGTE), 56 (WTVS), 57 (WBGU)
CBC--9 (CKLW/CBET)
TV Ontario--32 (CICO)

Indenpent stations :
20 (WXON/WDWB/WMYD)
31 (WPXD)
38 (WADL)
50 (WKBD (1965-86, Nov-Dec 1994)
62 (WGPR 1975-1994)

the Toledo stations was removed from the Detroit edition in 1982.
 
South Georgia, mid-'90s:

ABC: 2-Atlanta, 9-Columbus, GA, 13-Panama City, FL,
17-Jacksonville, 18-Dothan, AL, 22-Savannah,
24-Macon, 27-Tallahassee (9 stations)

NBC: 3-Savannah, 7-Panama City, 10-Albany, GA,
11-Atlanta, 12-Jacksonville, 38-Columbus, GA,
40-Tallahassee, 41-Macon (8 stations)

CBS: 3-Columbus, GA, 4-Jacksonville (before it went independent),
4-Dothan, AL, 6-Thomasville, GA/Tallahassee, 11-Savannah,
13-Macon, 46-Atlanta (7 stations)

Fox: 5-Atlanta, 31-Albany, 49-Bainbridge, GA, 54-Columbus, GA,
58 (the notorious WPGA)-Macon (5 stations)

Central Florida, 1974-77 (when it split into Orlando and Tampa/Sarasota):

NBC: 2-Daytona Beach/Orlando, 8-Tampa, 20-Ft. Myers (3 stations)

CBS: 6-Orlando, 11-Ft. Myers, 13-Tampa (3 stations)

ABC: 9-Orlando, 10-St. Petersburg, 26-Naples/Ft. Myers, 40-Sarasota (4 stations)

South Carolina 1996-end of the local editions:

NBC: 2-Charleston, 3-Savannah, 10-Columbia, 26-Augusta (4 stations)

ABC: 4-Charleston, 6-Augusta, 15-Florence, 22-Savannah, 25-Columbia (5 stations)

CBS: 5-Charleston, 11-Savannah, 12-Augusta, 13-Florence, 19-Columbia (5 stations)

Fox: 24-Charleston, 28-Savannah, 43-Florence/Myrtle Beach, 54-Augusta, 57-Columbia
(5 stations)

Charlotte (later Central North Carolina) roughly 1995-end of the local editions:

CBS: 2-Greensboro, 3-Charlotte, 5-Raleigh, 7-Spartanburg, 13-Florence (5 stations)

NBC: 4-Greenville, SC, 10-Columbia, 12-Winston-Salem, 36-Charlotte (4 stations)

Fox: 8-High Point, 18-Charlotte (2 stations, but 22-Raleigh was one until it switched
to the WB)

ABC: 9-Charlotte, 11-Durham, 13-Asheville, 15-Florence, 45-Winston-Salem (and,
briefly, 48-Greensboro when it duplicated 45) (5 or 6 stations)

Kentucky (later years):

NBC: 3-Louisville, 5-Cincinnati, 18-Lexington (3 stations)

ABC: 9-Cincinnati, 11-Louisville, 36-Lexington (3 stations)

CBS: 12-Cincinnati, 27-Lexington, 32-Louisville, 57-Hazard (4 stations)

Fox: 19-Cincinnati, 41-Louisville, 56-Danville, KY (3 stations)

Northern Alabama (before the shakeup in Birmingham):

ABC: 2-Nashville (before the Nashville stations were dropped), 6-Birmingham,
31-Huntsville (3 stations)

CBS: 4-Columbus, MS, 5-Nashville 19-Huntsville, 33-Tuscaloosa,
40-Anniston, 42-Birmingham (6 stations)

NBC: 4-Nashville, 9-Tupelo, MS, 13-Birmingham, 15-Florence, AL, 48-Huntsville
(5 stations)

Fox (I think this is right): 17-Tuscaloosa, 21-Birmingham, 54-Huntsville (3 stations)

Central Virginia (later years of the local editions):

CBS: 2-Greensboro, 5-Raleigh, 7-Roanoke, 59-Bluefield, WV (4 stations)

ABC: 4-Bluefield (Oak Hill), 11-Durham, 13-Lynchburg (3 stations, although in the
early '70s there were 5 ABC affiliates: 3-Harrisonburg, 5-Raleigh, 8-High Point,
13-Lynchburg, 27-Roanoke)

NBC: 6-Bluefield, 10-Roanoke, 12-Winston-Salem (3 stations)

Fox: 8-High Point, 21-Lynchburg and satellite 27-Roanoke (3 stations)

Bristol/Kingsport/Johnson City:

NBC: 5-Bristol, 10-Knoxville (2 stations)

ABC: 6-Knoxville, 13-Asheville, 19-Kingsport (3 stations)

CBS: 8-Knoxville, 11-Johnson City, 57-Hazard (3 stations)

Fox: 39-Johnson City, 43-Knoxville (2 stations)

Southern Alabama (before the merger with Gulf Coast):

CBS: 3-Columbus, GA, 4-Dothan, 8-Montgomery (3 stations)

NBC: 7-Panama City, 12-Montgomery, 38-Columbus, GA (3 stations)

ABC: 9-Columbus, GA, 13-Panama City, 18-Dothan, 32-Montgomery
(4 stations)

Fox: 20-Montgomery, 28-Panama City, 34-Ozark, AL, 54-Columbus, GA
(4 stations)
 
Iowa Edition

ABC: 5/Ames, 8/Moline, 9/Cedar Rapids; 3/Ottumwa (after 1968), 40/Dubuque (from the 70s to 1995 when it switched to FOX)

CBS: 2/Cedar Rapids, 4/Rock Island, 8/Des Moines; 3/Ottumwa (before 1968, actually CBS-NBC-ABC)

NBC: 6/Devenport, 7/Waterloo, 13/Des Moines; 21 or 50/Ft. Dodge (until 1977 when it left the air)
 
bpatrick said:
Northern Alabama (before the shakeup in Birmingham):

ABC: 2-Nashville (before the Nashville stations were dropped), 6-Birmingham,
31-Huntsville (3 stations)

CBS: 4-Columbus, MS, 5-Nashville 19-Huntsville, 33-Tuscaloosa,
40-Anniston, 42-Birmingham (6 stations)

NBC: 4-Nashville, 9-Tupelo, MS, 13-Birmingham, 15-Florence, AL, 48-Huntsville
(5 stations)

Fox (I think this is right): 17-Tuscaloosa, 21-Birmingham, 54-Huntsville (3 stations)

Actually, there was one more Fox station: 44-Gadsden.
 
Man, what a geek I am. I reading this thread and actually interested in it!
 
Memphis edition, 1996-ff

ABC: 6 Greenville/Greenwood, 7 Jackson, TN; 8 Jonesboro, AR; 24 Memphis
CBS: 3 Memphis, 4 Columbus, MS; 15 Greenwood/Greenville
Fox: 13 Memphis, 16 Jackson, 27 West Point, MS
NBC: 5 Memphis, 9 Tupelo
PBS: 10 Memphis, 11 Lexington, TN; 19 Jonesboro, AR; E Mississippi Public Television
 
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