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EricStein

It seems that they've become the dumping ground for sitcoms and other shows time forgot about (and for good reason). There's a reason why "Veronica's Closet" hasn't been seen on TV since it left the air ten years ago, why bring it back?
 
I saw "Veronica's Closet" on the program guide for TV Guide Channel last week, and I briefly tuned in just to make sure it was actually being aired, and my guide hadn't stumbled into some weird time paradox transporting it back to 1998.

If channels are forced to air "Veronica's Closet" in 2011, does that mean we have too many options? Or is this just a horrible programming decision?

Sometimes fewer options are better...
 
"TV Guide Network. More network. Less listings." That should be their new slogan.
 
Eric Stein said:
It seems that they've become the dumping ground for sitcoms and other shows time forgot about (and for good reason). There's a reason why "Veronica's Closet" hasn't been seen on TV since it left the air ten years ago, why bring it back?
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Why not bring it back. I'd rather have this than yet another network running Roseanne. How many networks does one show need to be on?
 
Mark said:
Why not bring it back. I'd rather have this than yet another network running Roseanne. How many networks does one show need to be on?
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There's a lot of sitcoms in the studios' vaults that are far more enjoyable. While they're trying to find semi-forgotten shows to air, why don't they dig up "Herman's Head" and "Grounded For Life" and air them too?

The now-defunct cable network Trio used to air short-lived shows under the banner "Brilliant But Cancelled." TVGN should call their block "Brilliantly Cancelled."
 
I think TV Guide is still building their channel. They're not the best out there but
they're not the worst either. Give them about 5 years and I think they might have
something there.
 
How about this concept? A network called TV Guide network that specializes in TV listings and programming. While we are at it, how about let's start a channel about history documentaries, and call it the History Channel. And then, let's add in a channel that shows music videos, and call it Music Television. Or, let's do a channel devoted to travel shows, and call it the Travel Channel.

Nah, that would NEVER work. What we need are more channels that show reality shows and old reruns. Springsteen said it best...500 channels, and NOTHING ON!
 
Mark said:
Eric Stein said:
It seems that they've become the dumping ground for sitcoms and other shows time forgot about (and for good reason). There's a reason why "Veronica's Closet" hasn't been seen on TV since it left the air ten years ago, why bring it back?
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Why not bring it back. I'd rather have this than yet another network running Roseanne. How many networks does one show need to be on?
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Better yet, bring back Prevue Guide! And the TV Guide (non tabloid) magazine, with listings!

-crainbebo
 
wffm78 said:
How about this concept? A network called TV Guide network that specializes in TV listings and programming. While we are at it, how about let's start a channel about history documentaries, and call it the History Channel. And then, let's add in a channel that shows music videos, and call it Music Television. Or, let's do a channel devoted to travel shows, and call it the Travel Channel.

Nah, that would NEVER work. What we need are more channels that show reality shows and old reruns. Springsteen said it best...500 channels, and NOTHING ON!
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I have to agree 100 percent.Oh also add a channel that devotes to weather.The Weather Channal.
 
I second the request to bring back Prevue Guide...

wffm78 said:
...Springsteen said it best... 500 channels, and NOTHING ON!
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And, ironically, no preferred source of rotating channel listings on which to find the nothing you want to watch...
 
Are you all insane?

This is 2011. Who is going to sit through 10 minutes of scrolling program listings when there are a million other ways to see what is on television, up to and including, the on screen program guide that most of us now have from our cable or satellite providers?

These boards seem to lament the loss of music on MTV, weather on the weather channel, and so on and so forth, but if people were watching these programs and the channels could make money doing these relatively inexpensive programs, don't you think they'd still be doing them? Time marches on and the networks, which are ad supported as well as subscriber supported, realized they make more money by catering to a specific audience that now demands original programming.
 
The only purpose I see for the scrolling listing is for those without a cable box or a set that includes an EPG which is becoming more and more a minority -- non-interactive TV listings channels are going the way of their paper cousins (in fact, my local paper, the St. Pete Times, discontinued daily prime-time listings, in favor of a Sunday TV magazine only).
 
Program listings are one of the many casualties of newspapers trimming in many areas to meet the bottom line, and stay relevant in this digital age at the same time...

@justpassingthrough: Point taken, and I've used online listings myself... But how inexpensive could it be to run the "program listings channel"? ::)
 
justpassingthough said:
Are you all insane?
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Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....

justpassingthough said:
This is 2011.
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Ah, but it appears the Luddite DayPlanner edition stopped somewhere back in the early 1980s.

justpassingthough said:
Who is going to sit through 10 minutes of scrolling program listings when there are a million other ways to see what is on television, up to and including, the on screen program guide that most of us now have from our cable or satellite providers?
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No and one.
justpassingthough said:
These boards seem to lament the loss of music on MTV, weather on the weather channel, and so on and so forth, but if people were watching these programs and the channels could make money doing these relatively inexpensive programs, don't you think they'd still be doing them?
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Um, yeah. There’s a reason people aren’t doing what they did in 1985.
justpassingthough said:
Time marches on and the networks, which are ad supported as well as subscriber supported, realized they make more money by catering to a specific audience that now demands original programming.
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See, there you go talking basic business 101. Just another member of the elite trying to oppress the dozen or so members of the Living in the Past Party.
 
I am not talking about staying relevant or not, but staying true to brand. In a 500 channel universe, you NEED an identity to sell your network. ESPN has stayed true to the brand, and is the #1 cable network. Most viewers don't scan channels anymore, they set their DVR, or save a favorite list of channels based on a programming genre they like.

When a channel strays off brand...such as the Travel Channel's line up of cooking shows (which belong more appropriately on the Food Channel), History showing shows like American Pickers, which popular or not, have little to do with history, or MTV and VH1 showing movies or shows that have little or nothing to do with music...you've confused the brand and your identity. While I agree that TV listings in a digital age are increasingly irrelevant in a digital age, there are still people who don't yet have smart boxes on their set. And a channel called TV Guide, by definition, should guide you to the best shows in a 500 channel universe, not serve as a dumping ground for 3rd tier sitcoms that should be on TVLand, Me-TV or Antenna TV.

If you aren't what you used to be, change the name, as Spike TV (the former nashville network), HLN (the former headline news, now 2011's version of CourtTV) ,or TLC (the former learning network) have done. In short, stay true to your brand, or get lost on a crowded dial...
 
Are we to believe ESPN's success had nothing to do with the genre itself remaining immensely popular (becoming more so in some cases)? Not every genre functions the same way.

Whether or not some small group of complainers happens to like, say, History's tweaks, is irrelevant. The brand has been accepted by the general viewing audience as having evolved (hence the demonstrable growth in ratings). There's no confusion--there's money.

And yes, there are those without boxes with guides, and without Internet connections. But that doesn't obligate someone to sacrifice making a profit to continue providing a charity service to an ever-dwindling number of such people. Fair or not, that's life.
 
Eric Stein said:
There's a lot of sitcoms in the studios' vaults that are far more enjoyable. While they're trying to find semi-forgotten shows to air, why don't they dig up "Herman's Head" and "Grounded For Life" and air them too?
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Grounded For Life is one of my personal cult favorites. That redhead played one of the best
snotty teenage girls in all of TV history. An under-appreciated show that got bounced from Fox to the WB
to oblivion. They could do worse.
 
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