It seems TV Land will air "Field of Dreams" and the promo reveals the ending. Next week, TV Land presents "Psycho". Anthony Perkins portrays a mild mannered hotel clerk and his crazy murdering mom followed by "Rosebud Was A Sled; the Behind the Scenes story of 'Citizen Kane'".
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TV LAND, Are you nuts?
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OK, 'spoiling' the ending, even if the movie is over 20 years old, and presumably TV Land's target audiences is people who've already seen it, is not cool.
But TV Land has been 'nuts' for years. Try watching the channel,and expecting to see a comprehensible, consistent schedule of shows('What's on at 7 PT/10 ET? Whatever we feel like showing!')...or try not expecting to see those shows chopped up for promos of Joan Rivers, hagged out fashion models, and whatever other 'Cougar-centric' crap they're pushing this week.
But TV Land has been 'nuts' for years. Try watching the channel,and expecting to see a comprehensible, consistent schedule of shows('What's on at 7 PT/10 ET? Whatever we feel like showing!')...or try not expecting to see those shows chopped up for promos of Joan Rivers, hagged out fashion models, and whatever other 'Cougar-centric' crap they're pushing this week.
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kenrayc
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The first problem with TV Land is now there starting to add that REALITY CRAP that has taken over MTV, VH1, and the broadcast network.
Second is the multiple episodes of certain shows, Andy Griffith has been literally ran into the ground, same with Cosby, and now Roseanne. Speaking of Roseanne TV land managed to run the entire 8 seasons of episode in 6 weeks, then keep repeating,repeating and repeating it over and over again.
Second is the multiple episodes of certain shows, Andy Griffith has been literally ran into the ground, same with Cosby, and now Roseanne. Speaking of Roseanne TV land managed to run the entire 8 seasons of episode in 6 weeks, then keep repeating,repeating and repeating it over and over again.
Wanna bet that this is one channel that will NOT be around by the end of next year, if not sooner?
Hey the signs are all here...
*repeating the same things over and over.
*reality shows
*movies..and more movies
and there is a website for all of this too..
http://www.tvland.com/prime/?cid=YSSP
Maybe we should say goodbye to TV Land...hello to "Prime".
Hey the signs are all here...
*repeating the same things over and over.
*reality shows
*movies..and more movies
and there is a website for all of this too..
http://www.tvland.com/prime/?cid=YSSP
Maybe we should say goodbye to TV Land...hello to "Prime".
Despite all the assertions that Viacom is "oh so brilliant" for lowering the demos, I see only lower ratings. For one thing, the vast majority here on the board seem to agree that TVL has self-destructed. And, I agree with that prevailing opinion as well. This used to be one of my "go to" channels - but I haven't watched anything on TV Land in months. Why not? As noted above, an inconsistent schedule; obnoxious promos and on-screen bugs; classic shows cut to shreds; and, a proliferation of not-so-classic shows and reality excrement.
Do they really think that 25 and 30 year olds are swamping the channel for reality garbage that they get elsewhere and endless reruns of Married With Children (which they can also get elsewhere - ad nauseum)? I don't see it happening. That audience is already elsewhere. The audience that formerly watched TV Land is alienated and rarely watches anymore.
Who IS watching this stuff? And don't tell me that they're doing so well because they're not. They just aren't - they are Viacom's least successful channel with significant penetration on basic cable.
Do they really think that 25 and 30 year olds are swamping the channel for reality garbage that they get elsewhere and endless reruns of Married With Children (which they can also get elsewhere - ad nauseum)? I don't see it happening. That audience is already elsewhere. The audience that formerly watched TV Land is alienated and rarely watches anymore.
Who IS watching this stuff? And don't tell me that they're doing so well because they're not. They just aren't - they are Viacom's least successful channel with significant penetration on basic cable.
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imhomerjay
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A message board as an indicator of the "vast majority" of the general public? Comic gold, pure comic gold.
Ignoring facts is one's personal choice. Doesn't change reality, though.
Total viewers doesn't matter. It hasn't for a long time. Demo ratings matter, and on that front, the objective fact is TV Land has improved on the whole. Just like any network past or present, some efforts do better than others--some hit, some miss. Doesn't change the underlying facts though, just as your dislike doesn't mean everyone must share that opinion.,
Oh wait, a few dozen people on a message board are representative of tens of millions of people.
Nope, can't say that with a straight face.
Ignoring facts is one's personal choice. Doesn't change reality, though.
Total viewers doesn't matter. It hasn't for a long time. Demo ratings matter, and on that front, the objective fact is TV Land has improved on the whole. Just like any network past or present, some efforts do better than others--some hit, some miss. Doesn't change the underlying facts though, just as your dislike doesn't mean everyone must share that opinion.,
Oh wait, a few dozen people on a message board are representative of tens of millions of people.
Nope, can't say that with a straight face.
It's no wonder that more people are dropping cable TV. Who in hell wants to pay good money each month for repeats of repeats?
When MTV first came on board in the 80's the format was music videos. God knows what it is today.
TV Land was supposed to feature series from the past. Apparently out of the thousands of sit-coms, dramas, westerns and other programs, TV Land apparently could only purchase a few, like Andy Griffith, and run them until the film starts to fade.
The History Channel went from showing some great historical programs to having R. Lee Ermey teaching people how to fire machine guns.
But one thing that has remain constant on Cable TV are the informercials that clogged up programming. God forbid we viewers are not able to buy that 40' HDTV for just $900 plus shipping, or that bottle of Jaclyn Smith perfume for $100 bucks.
Pretty soon Cable TV is history at my house as I will sign up for Netflix. At least it won't cost me as much and I can be spared the mountains of manure currently being passed off as programming on cable.
When MTV first came on board in the 80's the format was music videos. God knows what it is today.
TV Land was supposed to feature series from the past. Apparently out of the thousands of sit-coms, dramas, westerns and other programs, TV Land apparently could only purchase a few, like Andy Griffith, and run them until the film starts to fade.
The History Channel went from showing some great historical programs to having R. Lee Ermey teaching people how to fire machine guns.
But one thing that has remain constant on Cable TV are the informercials that clogged up programming. God forbid we viewers are not able to buy that 40' HDTV for just $900 plus shipping, or that bottle of Jaclyn Smith perfume for $100 bucks.
Pretty soon Cable TV is history at my house as I will sign up for Netflix. At least it won't cost me as much and I can be spared the mountains of manure currently being passed off as programming on cable.
onairb said:
And it was for that reason why I've gave up on NBC's "Deal or No Deal" -- when they spoiled the last $1 million episode in the days leading up to that episode -- and several times during it as well. If you spoil the ending to any movie, TV show or story, you forfeit your right to high viewership (readership, etc.), as there is no reason to tune in.
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imhomerjay
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The "right" to high viewership? When did such a right exist?
Let's do the math--if more people might be disposed to stay tuned in rather than tune out via a "spoiler" like Deal or No Deal, which path makes the most business sense?
Let's do the math--if more people might be disposed to stay tuned in rather than tune out via a "spoiler" like Deal or No Deal, which path makes the most business sense?
I rarely watch TV Land, so I'm not defending it. All the above criticisms are valid. But I think we need to face the fact that there is not enough content available or affordable for hundreds of channels running 24/7. So we end up with endless re-runs and infomercials
My solutions are:
1. Netflix. For $16.95 per month, I get 3 DVDs at a time - as fast as I can watch and return them. I'm usually too busy to watch more than 3 a week, but let's say I was able to watch 20 per month - that would be 85 cents per movie. Lately, their turnaround time is only 2 days - at least where I live.
2. DVR - I record shows in off-hours so I can watch them when its convenient.
3. On-Demand. The only reason to keep cable - in my opinion.
4. I turn the damn TV off and read something, or go on the internet like I'm doing right now.
My solutions are:
1. Netflix. For $16.95 per month, I get 3 DVDs at a time - as fast as I can watch and return them. I'm usually too busy to watch more than 3 a week, but let's say I was able to watch 20 per month - that would be 85 cents per movie. Lately, their turnaround time is only 2 days - at least where I live.
2. DVR - I record shows in off-hours so I can watch them when its convenient.
3. On-Demand. The only reason to keep cable - in my opinion.
4. I turn the damn TV off and read something, or go on the internet like I'm doing right now.
Viacom ruins every cable channels it owns. TV Wasteland, The all SpongeBob/Dora Channel, VH-1, 2 and 3, NoMTV (whoever invented that show "Next" should be taken out to the back of the barn and flogged), Losing BET, etc.
What would happen if they buy Lifetime, put "The Man SHow" on it's schedule?
What would happen if they buy Lifetime, put "The Man SHow" on it's schedule?
Markieo said:
LOL !! Don't give them ideas !!
The more I think about it, it is funny. Of course I was 25 years old once ( 1994 ) but I don't remember the advertisers/networks back then really making that much of an effort to get me to tune in or to buy their products..not the same way many of them are doing right now with the current batch of 25 year olds anyway.
Now before someone brings up TV shows like "Friends" and bands like "The Spin Doctors" , "The Cranberries" or "Toad the Wet Sprocket"..well they had their fans way beyond the so-called "gen-x" crowd...It was common to see people well into the 50's watching "Friends" or that NBC "must-see TV" lineup or even showing up at an Alice In Chains concert. Today on the other hand you aren't going to see very many 40 or 50 year olds attending a hip hop concert like Pitbull for example or pay money to watch a film like "Observe & Report".
What makes today's 25 year old really that special? To bad the consultants don't read the news.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_stress_map_awkward_ages
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searadiofreak
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The Dude said:TV land is crap and RTV seems to be moving in that direction also
I just got RTV on my cable system. Piece of crap. Seems that if they can get rights to ANY show in the history of television, it gets on the air. Wow.
onairb said:
This seems to be a problem with cable channels in general. Broadcast television, for all of its faults, at least seems to have consistency (relatively speaking) in how it's programmed.
The Voice of Reason said:
Only catch with this theory is that judging by the relative percentages of cable, satellite, and OTA-only viewers, the people who are dropping cable are switching to satellite -- so they're still paying good money for those same crappy basic cable channels, but just getting them via a different distributor.
Much as I would like to see it be otherwise, the percentage of OTA-only viewers has been slowly decreasing -- if and when a significant number of viewers are no longer willing to pay for these basic cable channels, it should show up in an increasing percentage of OTA-only households.
azumanga said:
I think former WWF/WWE wrestler Mick Foley might have something interesting to say about that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monday_Night_Wars#1999-2000:_The_tide_turns
(first three paragraphs)
TexasTom said:
You bring out an excellent point. Although the general commentaries about cable channels are true, Viacom's channels have truly lost their way. Look at MTV, which hardly shows anything related to music. When it premiered, it was all music videos, all the time. Granted, things change and evolve but Viacom's programming of MTV seems to be from the desk of a monkey! Movies (!) that have nothing to do with music, and which don't even seem to hit the teen demographic are now on MTV.
How about VH1? It was meant to be an adult-contemporary compliment to MTV. Basically skewing a little older to capture 20 and 30 somethings that have outgrown MTV. Now it's reality hell! One ditzball show after another. Another channel that has totally lost it's way.
And, speaking of horrid programming, clearly some sort of invertebrate creature with a brain of less than a gram programs CMT! Trading Spouses, movies (again with no country connection), and reality shows unrelated to the supposed theme of the channel dominate the schedule.
These are the same guys that are mucking up TV Land and many others. They are truly incompetent idiots who should be replaced by running a lottery at the unemployment office. Everyone in line for unemployment should be given a raffle ticket and the first 20 winning numbers entitle the holder to be employed as a programmer for a Viacom channel. Honestly, things would almost certainly improve!!!
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