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TV Markets that never "QUITE" made it

Markxxx

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Got the idea for this off the WMGM-TV Channel 40 on the Philly board thread

It seems like Channel 40 an NBC affilate and there was plans for an ABC affiliate but then the Philly stations got stronger transmitters and the need to have a seperate market for Atlantic City / Wildwood was not needed

Any other examples like this where they got one or two network affiliates but then idea of a seperate market died

I don't know if any of these fit but I'm thinking "St Joseph, MO." Also didn't AKron have it's own network affiliate even though it was covered by Cleveland. Maybe Sarosota? Had it's own ABC affiliate even though covered by Tampa. Maybe Bowling Green, KY which has it's own ABC affilate?

Maybe these weren't attempts to establish a seperate market but anyone else got any ideas??
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> Got the idea for this off the WMGM-TV Channel 40 on the
> Philly board thread
>
> It seems like Channel 40 an NBC affilate and there was
> plans for an ABC affiliate but then the Philly stations got
> stronger transmitters and the need to have a seperate market
> for Atlantic City / Wildwood was not needed
>
> Any other examples like this where they got one or two
> network affiliates but then idea of a seperate market died
>
> I don't know if any of these fit but I'm thinking "St
> Joseph, MO." Also didn't AKron have it's own network
> affiliate even though it was covered by Cleveland. Maybe
> Sarosota? Had it's own ABC affiliate even though covered by
> Tampa. Maybe Bowling Green, KY which has it's own ABC
> affilate?
>
> Maybe these weren't attempts to establish a seperate market
> but anyone else got any ideas??


Back during the 1950's, '60's, and early- to mid-1970's, Fort Dodge, Iowa had an NBC affiliate, KVFD-TV, which broadcast on UHF Channel 21, until 1975, when Iowa Public Television expanded its network. Then for some reason KVFD-TV moved its station to UHF Channel 50.

Then 2 years later, it went off the air entirely, and never came back on the air.

Apparently, a tornado destroyed KVFD-TV's tower and transmitter in 1977.

But from what I heard, the REAL reason why KVFD-TV went belly-up was because WHO-TV Channel 13 in Des Moines had moved to a 2,000 ft. transmitter in Alleman, Iowa, putting a good service-grade signal over Fort Dodge and north central Iowa, during the early-1970's.

For awhile in the mid-1970's, I thought Fort Dodge would become a real, bona-fide market all its own, with 2 TV stations, but that happened only for the 2 years that both stations were on the air, though.

But personally, I wish KVFD-TV would return to the air in Fort Dodge, even it if didn't become an NBC affiliate again, and instead took UPN as its network of choice.

That would help there to finally be an over-the-air UPN station serving BOTH northwest, north central, and central Iowa!! :)

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Also didn't AKron have it's own network
> affiliate even though it was covered by Cleveland.

Akron did have an ABC affiliate on WAKC Ch.23
 
Lima, OH may be a candidate. WLIO (or WIMA-TV)35 has been around forever, there's a religious station (44) and now after many years a low power Fox affiliate, but most people watch everything but NBC from Toledo,Dayton or Ft. Wayne.


> > Got the idea for this off the WMGM-TV Channel 40 on the
> > Philly board thread
> >
> > It seems like Channel 40 an NBC affilate and there was
> > plans for an ABC affiliate but then the Philly stations
> got
> > stronger transmitters and the need to have a seperate
> market
> > for Atlantic City / Wildwood was not needed
> >
> > Any other examples like this where they got one or two
> > network affiliates but then idea of a seperate market died
>
> >
> > I don't know if any of these fit but I'm thinking "St
> > Joseph, MO." Also didn't AKron have it's own network
> > affiliate even though it was covered by Cleveland. Maybe
> > Sarosota? Had it's own ABC affiliate even though covered
> by
> > Tampa. Maybe Bowling Green, KY which has it's own ABC
> > affilate?
> >
> > Maybe these weren't attempts to establish a seperate
> market
> > but anyone else got any ideas??
>
>
> Back during the 1950's, '60's, and early- to mid-1970's,
> Fort Dodge, Iowa had an NBC affiliate, KVFD-TV, which
> broadcast on UHF Channel 21, until 1975, when Iowa Public
> Television expanded its network. Then for some reason
> KVFD-TV moved its station to UHF Channel 50.
>
> Then 2 years later, it went off the air entirely, and never
> came back on the air.
>
> Apparently, a tornado destroyed KVFD-TV's tower and
> transmitter in 1977.
>
> But from what I heard, the REAL reason why KVFD-TV went
> belly-up was because WHO-TV Channel 13 in Des Moines had
> moved to a 2,000 ft. transmitter in Alleman, Iowa, putting a
> good service-grade signal over Fort Dodge and north central
> Iowa, during the early-1970's.
>
> For awhile in the mid-1970's, I thought Fort Dodge would
> become a real, bona-fide market all its own, with 2 TV
> stations, but that happened only for the 2 years that both
> stations were on the air, though.
>
> But personally, I wish KVFD-TV would return to the air in
> Fort Dodge, even it if didn't become an NBC affiliate again,
> and instead took UPN as its network of choice.
>
> That would help there to finally be an over-the-air UPN
> station serving BOTH northwest, north central, and central
> Iowa!! :)
>
> DeanSB2004
>
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> Got the idea for this off the WMGM-TV Channel 40 on the
> Philly board thread
>
> It seems like Channel 40 an NBC affilate and there was
> plans for an ABC affiliate but then the Philly stations got
> stronger transmitters and the need to have a seperate market
> for Atlantic City / Wildwood was not needed
>
> Any other examples like this where they got one or two
> network affiliates but then idea of a seperate market died

Tuscaloosa has WCFT-33 (now ABC, was CBS until 1996) and WDBB-17, (now WB, was independent and later Fox 1984-1996) plus Class A WVUA and an HSN affiliate and I don't think they've ever been a market of their own. It is moot now, because 33 and 17 are 100% repeaters of Birmingham stations. They've never had a APT/PBS affiliate, although an allocation once existed.

Hagerstown would be another. WHAG-25 is NBC, and I don't recall if WJAL has ever been an affiliate. They also have PBS WWPB-31, and Martinsburg PAX affiliate WWPX-60 would presumably also be a part of a Hagerstown market if one existed.
 
> > > Maybe Sarosota? Had it's own ABC affiliate even though
> > > covered by Tampa. Maybe Bowling Green, KY which has it's
> > > own ABC affilate?

Sarasota is noted as it's own market, although the only station it
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> Tuscaloosa has WCFT-33 (now ABC, was CBS until 1996) and
> WDBB-17, (now WB, was independent and later Fox 1984-1996)
> plus Class A WVUA and an HSN affiliate and I don't think
> they've ever been a market of their own. It is moot now,
> because 33 and 17 are 100% repeaters of Birmingham stations.
> They've never had a APT/PBS affiliate, although an
> allocation once existed.

Tuscaloosa was actually a seperate TV market from 1987 to 1998. WDBB is now licensed to Bessemer.
 
> Sarasota is noted as it's own market, although the only
> station it
> has is WWSB-TV 7, an ABC affiliate.
>
First of all, it should be noted that ch.7 is WWSB's cable slot on the Comcast and Bright House systems in Sarasota and Manatee Counties -- it broadcasted since its 1971 sign-on on ch.40.

Secondly, I thought Sarasota was always part of the Tampa market.

Of course, in the early-1990s, there was talk of Sarasota / Bradenton becoming its own market, after indy WBSV ch.62 went on the air. However, very few people watched the station, as many Sarasota viewers were either watching ch.40 or the stations in the Tampa Bay and Ft. Myers markets. In 2000, Entrevision acquired WBSV and moved the tranny closer to Tampa, making it the new full-powered home of Univision affil WVEA, which was originally on low-powered ch.61.

Also, ch.40 almost lost its ABC affiliation in 1995, as WFTS ch.28 (which got the affiliation in 1994 in the network shuffle) covered Sarasota nicely, and would've been unable to score another affiliation, as stations from both Tampa Bay and Fort Myers over Sarasota really well (except for WB, where then-affil WTMV ch.32 (now WMOR) had a weaker tranny, and Fort Myers' WSWF ch.10 (now UPN-affil WEVU ch.7) was low-powered). A court order (I think) enabled WWSB to stay with ABC.

With only one station in Sarasota, and the city literally sandwiched between Tampa Bay and Fort Myers, they felt that Sarasota would be better-served as part of the Tampa Bay market, instead of going on its own.
 
> Lima, OH may be a candidate. WLIO (or WIMA-TV)35 has been
> around forever, there's a religious station (44) and now
> after many years a low power Fox affiliate, but most people
> watch everything but NBC from Toledo,Dayton or Ft. Wayne.
Lima Oh now has low powered CBS and UPN affils. I believe they are both owned by the same company that owns the low-power Fox.
 
> Lima, OH may be a candidate. WLIO (or WIMA-TV)35 has been
> around forever, there's a religious station (44) and now
> after many years a low power Fox affiliate, but most people
> watch everything but NBC from Toledo,Dayton or Ft. Wayne.
>

Lima is it's own television market -- the 194th largest Nielsen market (out of 210). Aside from WLIO 35 (NBC), the LPTV Fox (WOHL 25), there is also a LPTV CBS affiliate (WLMO 65).

>
> > > Got the idea for this off the WMGM-TV Channel 40 on the
> > > Philly board thread
> > >
> > > It seems like Channel 40 an NBC affilate and there was
> > > plans for an ABC affiliate but then the Philly stations
> > got
> > > stronger transmitters and the need to have a seperate
> > market
> > > for Atlantic City / Wildwood was not needed
> > >
> > > Any other examples like this where they got one or two
> > > network affiliates but then idea of a seperate market
> died
> >
> > >
> > > I don't know if any of these fit but I'm thinking "St
> > > Joseph, MO." Also didn't AKron have it's own network
> > > affiliate even though it was covered by Cleveland. Maybe
>
> > > Sarosota? Had it's own ABC affiliate even though covered
>
> > by
> > > Tampa. Maybe Bowling Green, KY which has it's own ABC
> > > affilate?
> > >
> > > Maybe these weren't attempts to establish a seperate
> > market
> > > but anyone else got any ideas??
> >
> >
> > Back during the 1950's, '60's, and early- to mid-1970's,
> > Fort Dodge, Iowa had an NBC affiliate, KVFD-TV, which
> > broadcast on UHF Channel 21, until 1975, when Iowa Public
> > Television expanded its network. Then for some reason
> > KVFD-TV moved its station to UHF Channel 50.
> >
> > Then 2 years later, it went off the air entirely, and
> never
> > came back on the air.
> >
> > Apparently, a tornado destroyed KVFD-TV's tower and
> > transmitter in 1977.
> >
> > But from what I heard, the REAL reason why KVFD-TV went
> > belly-up was because WHO-TV Channel 13 in Des Moines had
> > moved to a 2,000 ft. transmitter in Alleman, Iowa, putting
> a
> > good service-grade signal over Fort Dodge and north
> central
> > Iowa, during the early-1970's.
> >
> > For awhile in the mid-1970's, I thought Fort Dodge would
> > become a real, bona-fide market all its own, with 2 TV
> > stations, but that happened only for the 2 years that both
>
> > stations were on the air, though.
> >
> > But personally, I wish KVFD-TV would return to the air in
> > Fort Dodge, even it if didn't become an NBC affiliate
> again,
> > and instead took UPN as its network of choice.
> >
> > That would help there to finally be an over-the-air UPN
> > station serving BOTH northwest, north central, and central
>
> > Iowa!! :)
> >
> > DeanSB2004
> >
>
 
> Got the idea for this off the WMGM-TV Channel 40 on the
> Philly board thread
>
> It seems like Channel 40 an NBC affilate and there was
> plans for an ABC affiliate but then the Philly stations got
> stronger transmitters and the need to have a seperate market
> for Atlantic City / Wildwood was not needed
>
> Any other examples like this where they got one or two
> network affiliates but then idea of a seperate market died
>
> I don't know if any of these fit but I'm thinking "St
> Joseph, MO." Also didn't AKron have it's own network
> affiliate even though it was covered by Cleveland. Maybe
> Sarosota? Had it's own ABC affiliate even though covered by
> Tampa. Maybe Bowling Green, KY which has it's own ABC
> affilate?

Some of these are seperate markets. Bowling Green is the the 182nd largest DMA as defined by Nielsen for the 2004-2005 TV season (out of 210). It has WBKO 13 (ABC), WKYU 27 (PBS), and WNKY 40 (NBC). WNKY was previously a Fox affiliate but flipped a few years ago.

St Joseph is its own market -- #201.

Sarasota is embedded in the Tampa-St Petersburg market.


> Maybe these weren't attempts to establish a seperate market
> but anyone else got any ideas??
>
 
> Hagerstown would be another. WHAG-25 is NBC, and I don't
> recall if WJAL has ever been an affiliate. They also have
> PBS WWPB-31, and Martinsburg PAX affiliate WWPX-60 would
> presumably also be a part of a Hagerstown market if one
> existed.

WJAL 68 was a WB affiliate until 1998, as I recall.

Martinsburg's Channel 60 originally began as Fox affiliate WYVN in the fall of 1991. The station went dark in 1993 and returned about six months to a year later as an independent, then signed off for good around 1995.
 
> Got the idea for this off the WMGM-TV Channel 40 on the
> Philly board thread
>
> It seems like Channel 40 an NBC affilate and there was
> plans for an ABC affiliate but then the Philly stations got
> stronger transmitters and the need to have a seperate market
> for Atlantic City / Wildwood was not needed
>
> Any other examples like this where they got one or two
> network affiliates but then idea of a seperate market died
>
> I don't know if any of these fit but I'm thinking "St
> Joseph, MO." Also didn't AKron have it's own network
> affiliate even though it was covered by Cleveland. Maybe
> Sarosota? Had it's own ABC affiliate even though covered by
> Tampa. Maybe Bowling Green, KY which has it's own ABC
> affilate?
>
> Maybe these weren't attempts to establish a seperate market
> but anyone else got any ideas??
>

Dubuque, Iowa, is another one. KDUB-40 signed on as an ABC affiliate
I think in the early 70s. It folded a few years later, then was
returned to the air I think by the late 70s. In the early 90s, the Fox station in Cedar Rapids folded. New owners put it back on the air as KFXA-28 and bought KDUB, changed it to KFXB-40, basically a simulecast of KFXA although they did continue with local news on 40 for awhile. A year ago, KFXB was sold off to the CTN Christian network, leaving Dubuque with no network affiliates. I don't know how the mostly Protestant programming on CTN is doing in the heavily-Catholic Dubuque.

(Hopefully, someone can fill in some of the dates in the above.)

Dubuque is hilly, with poor reception from the stations in Waterloo and Cedar Rapids. It had one of the first cable systems in the country.

Shortly after KDUB sined on, someone received a construction permit for a station on channel 16, but it never went on the air.
 
> > Sarasota is noted as it's own market, although the only
> > station it
> > has is WWSB-TV 7, an ABC affiliate.
> >
> First of all, it should be noted that ch.7 is WWSB's cable
> slot on the Comcast and Bright House systems in Sarasota
> and Manatee Counties -- it broadcasted since its 1971
> sign-on on ch.40.
>
> Secondly, I thought Sarasota was always part of the Tampa
> market.
>
> Of course, in the early-1990s, there was talk of Sarasota /
> Bradenton becoming its own market, after indy WBSV ch.62
> went on the air. However, very few people watched the
> station, as many Sarasota viewers were either watching ch.40
> or the stations in the Tampa Bay and Ft. Myers markets. In
> 2000, Entrevision acquired WBSV and moved the tranny closer
> to Tampa, making it the new full-powered home of Univision
> affil WVEA, which was originally on low-powered ch.61.
>
> Also, ch.40 almost lost its ABC affiliation in 1995, as WFTS
> ch.28 (which got the affiliation in 1994 in the network
> shuffle) covered Sarasota nicely, and would've been unable
> to score another affiliation, as stations from both Tampa
> Bay and Fort Myers over Sarasota really well (except for WB,
> where then-affil WTMV ch.32 (now WMOR) had a weaker tranny,
> and Fort Myers' WSWF ch.10 (now UPN-affil WEVU ch.7) was
> low-powered). A court order (I think) enabled WWSB to stay
> with ABC.
>
> With only one station in Sarasota, and the city literally
> sandwiched between Tampa Bay and Fort Myers, they felt that
> Sarasota would be better-served as part of the Tampa Bay
> market, instead of going on its own.
>
Yes Sarasota is part of the Tampa Bay market officially, but let's face it even in places like St Joseph MO where they only got one station they still are attached to other markets (In this case KC) for all the other affiliates, even though they are technically on their own
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>
> Hagerstown, MD would be another. WHAG-25 is NBC, and I don't
> recall if WJAL has ever been an affiliate. They also have
> PBS WWPB-31, and Martinsburg PAX affiliate WWPX-60 would
> presumably also be a part of a Hagerstown market if one
> existed.
>

Washington County, MD, home to Hagerstown, has since been rolled into the Washington DC DMA (I think). WJAL-TV channel 68 is licensed to Hagerstown but has a Chambersburg, PA mailing address. I think they were supposed to be a WB affiliate at one time.
 
> Maybe these weren't attempts to establish a seperate market
> but anyone else got any ideas??

I don't know whether or not it was intended to be a separate market, but with 4 full-service VHF TV stations, Flagstaff AZ (pop. ~61k) should be its own market. Instead, it's considered part of the Phoenix/Prescott market. Their full-power stations are S of the city and also deliver a quality signal to the Verde Valley cities (combined pop. ~55k). Add outlying cities within signal range and potential translator cities, and I'm guessing that Flagstaff/Verde Valley could be a market of approx. 200K, placing it in the neighborhood of Bakersfield CA, Corpus Christi TX, and Amarillo TX.

Only one of Flagstaff's full-service stations shows major network programming, KNAZ 2 (NBC - satellite of KPNX 12 Phoenix). The others are KTFL 4 (FamilyNet), KCFG 9 (America One) and KFPH 13 (Telefutura - O & O). Their network service comes from Phoenix via low-power translators owned by the originating stations. In all, 10 of Phoenix/Prescott's 13 full-service stations either have satellites or translators in Flagstaff (Daystar, Pax, and WB do not), so I don't see much chance of the other 3 FP stations picking up major network affiliations.
 
Another area that did even worse than Atlantic City was Wilmington, Delaware. Delaware's original commercial TV station was WDEL-TV channel 7, licensed in 1949, but was moved to channel 12 because the Wilmington signal was interferring with both NYC's and Washington's channel 7's.

Also in the early 1950's Philly's KYW complained to NBC that there didn't need to be two NBC- TV affiliates so close (Wilmington is 23 miles south of Philly, in a different state, but awefully close). NBC pulled the TV affiliation away from WDEL (kept the NBC radio affiliation) making Wilmington's TV station an independent station in a day where there were not many syndicated shows, etc to air. WDEL sold the station and it became WFPH?. It didn't last long and Storer Broadcasting bought the station and WVUE-TV Wilmington didn't last long going dark in 1958. WHYY bought the station and went on the air as an NET (National Educational Television) affiliate in 1963 later becoming PBS. The station made it's main studio in Philly and operates a satellite studio for their weeknight 30 minute Delaware newscast.

The other channel for Wilmington was channel 61 which had a studio in Wilmington for a short time in the 1980's and then moved it's entire operation to Philly. Both stations when they do their legal id will show Wilmington/Philadelphia, even though they are licensed to Wilmington. So radio market #75 (Wilmington) actually does not have it's own commercial or noncomm TV station. Atlantic City in spite of its smaller market did manage to keep its station as a actual local station that serves that community specifically.

> Got the idea for this off the WMGM-TV Channel 40 on the
> Philly board thread
>
> It seems like Channel 40 an NBC affilate and there was
> plans for an ABC affiliate but then the Philly stations got
> stronger transmitters and the need to have a seperate market
> for Atlantic City / Wildwood was not needed
>
> Any other examples like this where they got one or two
> network affiliates but then idea of a seperate market died
>
> I don't know if any of these fit but I'm thinking "St
> Joseph, MO." Also didn't AKron have it's own network
> affiliate even though it was covered by Cleveland. Maybe
> Sarosota? Had it's own ABC affiliate even though covered by
> Tampa. Maybe Bowling Green, KY which has it's own ABC
> affilate?
>
> Maybe these weren't attempts to establish a seperate market
> but anyone else got any ideas??
>
 
> > Any other examples like this where they got one or two
> > network affiliates but then idea of a seperate market died
> >
> > Maybe these weren't attempts to establish a seperate
> market
> > but anyone else got any ideas??
> >
>
> Dubuque, Iowa, is another one. KDUB-40 signed on as an ABC
> affiliate
> I think in the early 70s. It folded a few years later, then
> was
> returned to the air I think by the late 70s. In the early
> 90s, the Fox station in Cedar Rapids folded. New owners put
> it back on the air as KFXA-28 and bought KDUB, changed it to
> KFXB-40, basically a simulecast of KFXA although they did
> continue with local news on 40 for awhile.

And then there's Valdosta, Ga., where WVGA 44 signed on in either the late '70s or early '80s as an ABC affiliate for South Georgia. WVGA went dark in 1992 when a plane crash into the station's tower knocked the station off the air. Channel 44 returned to the air in 1995 as WB affiliate WGVP, switched to UPN in 1997, and changed calls to WVAG in 2001 or 2002. I remember there being listings for WVGA in the "out-of-town" TV listings for the Georgia edition of The Florida Times-Union.
 
Re: TV Markets that never "QUITE" made it (Akron-Canton, Oh.)

> Also didn't AKron have it's own network
> > affiliate even though it was covered by Cleveland.
>
> Akron did have an ABC affiliate on WAKC Ch.23
>
from 1953-96 .Though at times Channel 49 (as it was known at first) Really didnt carry a lot of ABC shows at first. Having movies during ABC Prime Time quite a bit in the 1960's..If Akron wasnt so close to Cleveland, I saw the potential of Akron-Canton TV market with these stations (all full-power stations, either Construction permits that never were built or current stations under their original ownership

17 WJAN Canton NBC
23 WMAC Massillon, Ohio (never built) Fox
29 WTLC Canton (never built) CBS
49 WAKR Akron ABC
55 WBNX Akron WB/UPN
67 WOAC Canton PBS

All just supposition. But Cleveland is just too close for such a lineup to be practical nowadays<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by TimL on 06/12/05 06:32 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> I don't know whether or not it was intended to be a separate
> market, but with 4 full-service VHF TV stations, Flagstaff
> AZ (pop. ~61k) should be its own market. Instead, it's
> considered part of the Phoenix/Prescott market. Their
> full-power stations are S of the city and also deliver a
> quality signal to the Verde Valley cities (combined pop.
> ~55k). Add outlying cities within signal range and
> potential translator cities, and I'm guessing that
> Flagstaff/Verde Valley could be a market of approx. 200K,
> placing it in the neighborhood of Bakersfield CA, Corpus
> Christi TX, and Amarillo TX.

Flagstaff isn't separate because they don't have any stations that originate their own programming, except for KNAZ's local newscasts and ads.

Prescott's KAZT Ch. 7 is still Prescott-licensed (master control is still there, AFAIK), originates some programming there, but also has a studio and 2 translators (one is a Class-A) in Phoenix. But it can't be its own market either since all network service comes from translators of Phoenix stations.

I believe Flagstaff was its own market in the '70s & '80s, at around #200, but that changed when Gannett bought KNAZ. The market was just southern Coconino County (the part north of the Grand Canyon is in the Salt Lake City market) so Prescott wasn't included.

The Flagstaff metro area's population is around 100,000 people - not big enough to support its own full slate of network affiliates. If it was its own market again it would be around #202. The only market above #200 with all 4 major networks is Fairbanks AK, and their CBS is an LPTV.

A hypothetical Flagstaff/Prescott market would be around #185. Removing these areas from the Phoenix market (which covers about 60% of the state currently) would knock it down to around #19. Won't happen.

> Only one of Flagstaff's full-service stations shows major
> network programming, KNAZ 2 (NBC - satellite of KPNX 12
> Phoenix). The others are KTFL 4 (FamilyNet), KCFG 9
> (America One) and KFPH 13 (Telefutura - O & O). Their
> network service comes from Phoenix via low-power translators
> owned by the originating stations. In all, 10 of
> Phoenix/Prescott's 13 full-service stations either have
> satellites or translators in Flagstaff (Daystar, Pax, and WB
> do not), so I don't see much chance of the other 3 FP
> stations picking up major network affiliations.

KCFG may be licensed as a full-powered station, but they are essentially an LPTV (1 kW ERP). They've had a CP for a full-power transmitter for years but I don't know if they plan to build it. They don't originate any of their own programming AFAIK. Neither does KTFL.

And, technically, KFPH is a satellite of KFPH-CA Ch. 35 Phoenix. Nothing on this station originates in Flagstaff anymore, although they did carry local programming years ago. Under previous ownerships and callsigns, they were an indie (with their own ultra-low-budget local newscasts), then WB, then Pax, and finally an all-infomercial station, before being bought by Univision.
 
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