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TV Markets with largest land coverage.
- Thread starter e-dawg
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Joseph_Gallant
Guest
E-Dawg asks:
> I know New York is the #1 TV market for population wise.
> What about land area, which TV markets have the largest land
> coverage?
My guess is Fairbanks, Alaska (which would cover most of the state, although many parts of Alaska do not get any TV service whatsoever). Salt Lake City would be the second-largest (in terms of land area), with Phoenix a close third.
> I know New York is the #1 TV market for population wise.
> What about land area, which TV markets have the largest land
> coverage?
My guess is Fairbanks, Alaska (which would cover most of the state, although many parts of Alaska do not get any TV service whatsoever). Salt Lake City would be the second-largest (in terms of land area), with Phoenix a close third.
M
Mark_Ericson
Guest
> E-Dawg asks:
>
> > I know New York is the #1 TV market for population wise.
> > What about land area, which TV markets have the largest
> land
> > coverage?
>
> My guess is Fairbanks, Alaska (which would cover most of the
> state, although many parts of Alaska do not get any TV
> service whatsoever). Salt Lake City would be the
> second-largest (in terms of land area), with Phoenix a close
> third.
Where's Denver on the list in terms of land area?
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>
> > I know New York is the #1 TV market for population wise.
> > What about land area, which TV markets have the largest
> land
> > coverage?
>
> My guess is Fairbanks, Alaska (which would cover most of the
> state, although many parts of Alaska do not get any TV
> service whatsoever). Salt Lake City would be the
> second-largest (in terms of land area), with Phoenix a close
> third.
Where's Denver on the list in terms of land area?
- Trip<P ID="signature">______________
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> > E-Dawg asks:
> >
> > > I know New York is the #1 TV market for population wise.
>
> > > What about land area, which TV markets have the largest
> > land
> > > coverage?
> >
> > My guess is Fairbanks, Alaska (which would cover most of
> the
> > state, although many parts of Alaska do not get any TV
> > service whatsoever). Salt Lake City would be the
> > second-largest (in terms of land area), with Phoenix a
> close
> > third.
>
> Where's Denver on the list in terms of land area?
>
> - Trip
>
Click here ---> <a target="_blank" href=http://ekb.dbstalk.com/TVMarkets/> Link to National and State Maps</a> of TV Markets.
Doesn't give you areas but you can take a guess then calculate your own if really ambitious.
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Once I figured out the meaning of life....Then I forgot to write it down.</P>
> >
> > > I know New York is the #1 TV market for population wise.
>
> > > What about land area, which TV markets have the largest
> > land
> > > coverage?
> >
> > My guess is Fairbanks, Alaska (which would cover most of
> the
> > state, although many parts of Alaska do not get any TV
> > service whatsoever). Salt Lake City would be the
> > second-largest (in terms of land area), with Phoenix a
> close
> > third.
>
> Where's Denver on the list in terms of land area?
>
> - Trip
>
Click here ---> <a target="_blank" href=http://ekb.dbstalk.com/TVMarkets/> Link to National and State Maps</a> of TV Markets.
Doesn't give you areas but you can take a guess then calculate your own if really ambitious.
)<P ID="signature">______________Once I figured out the meaning of life....Then I forgot to write it down.</P>
> > > E-Dawg asks:
> > >
> > > > I know New York is the #1 TV market for population
> wise.
> >
> > > > What about land area, which TV markets have the
> largest
> > > land
> > > > coverage?
> > >
> > > My guess is Fairbanks, Alaska (which would cover most of
>
> > the
> > > state, although many parts of Alaska do not get any TV
> > > service whatsoever). Salt Lake City would be the
> > > second-largest (in terms of land area), with Phoenix a
> > close
> > > third.
> >
> > Where's Denver on the list in terms of land area?
> >
> > - Trip
> >
> Click here ---> Link to National and State Maps of TV
> Markets.
>
> Doesn't give you areas but you can take a guess then
> calculate your own if really ambitious.
>
>)
>
Seems like Denver would be close to SLC and Phoenix, but it's non-contiguous nature makes it hard to tell (Why are the Denver, Sioux Falls, and Norfolk markets allowed to be non-contiguous, anyway). At the very least it's fourth behind Fairbanks, SLC, and Phoenix. . .
> > >
> > > > I know New York is the #1 TV market for population
> wise.
> >
> > > > What about land area, which TV markets have the
> largest
> > > land
> > > > coverage?
> > >
> > > My guess is Fairbanks, Alaska (which would cover most of
>
> > the
> > > state, although many parts of Alaska do not get any TV
> > > service whatsoever). Salt Lake City would be the
> > > second-largest (in terms of land area), with Phoenix a
> > close
> > > third.
> >
> > Where's Denver on the list in terms of land area?
> >
> > - Trip
> >
> Click here ---> Link to National and State Maps of TV
> Markets.
>
> Doesn't give you areas but you can take a guess then
> calculate your own if really ambitious.
>
>
)>
Seems like Denver would be close to SLC and Phoenix, but it's non-contiguous nature makes it hard to tell (Why are the Denver, Sioux Falls, and Norfolk markets allowed to be non-contiguous, anyway). At the very least it's fourth behind Fairbanks, SLC, and Phoenix. . .
> > > > E-Dawg asks:
> > > >
> > > > > I know New York is the #1 TV market for population
> > wise.
> > >
> > > > > What about land area, which TV markets have the
> > largest
> > > > land
> > > > > coverage?
> > > >
> > > > My guess is Fairbanks, Alaska (which would cover most
> of
> >
> > > the
> > > > state, although many parts of Alaska do not get any TV
>
> > > > service whatsoever). Salt Lake City would be the
> > > > second-largest (in terms of land area), with Phoenix a
>
> > > close
> > > > third.
> > >
> > > Where's Denver on the list in terms of land area?
> > >
> > > - Trip
> > >
> > Click here ---> Link to National and State Maps of TV
> > Markets.
> >
> > Doesn't give you areas but you can take a guess then
> > calculate your own if really ambitious.
> >
> >)
> >
>
>
> Seems like Denver would be close to SLC and Phoenix, but
> it's non-contiguous nature makes it hard to tell (Why are
> the Denver, Sioux Falls, and Norfolk markets allowed to be
> non-contiguous, anyway). At the very least it's fourth
> behind Fairbanks, SLC, and Phoenix. . .
>
I would say they probably operate translators that is why they are not-contiguous.
Some of the market shapes are very odd at best. I think outside of Alaska, Utah would be the largest. Maybe if I get bored enough the weekend I can calculate the areas a bit.<P ID="signature">______________
Once I figured out the meaning of life....Then I forgot to write it down.</P>
> > > >
> > > > > I know New York is the #1 TV market for population
> > wise.
> > >
> > > > > What about land area, which TV markets have the
> > largest
> > > > land
> > > > > coverage?
> > > >
> > > > My guess is Fairbanks, Alaska (which would cover most
> of
> >
> > > the
> > > > state, although many parts of Alaska do not get any TV
>
> > > > service whatsoever). Salt Lake City would be the
> > > > second-largest (in terms of land area), with Phoenix a
>
> > > close
> > > > third.
> > >
> > > Where's Denver on the list in terms of land area?
> > >
> > > - Trip
> > >
> > Click here ---> Link to National and State Maps of TV
> > Markets.
> >
> > Doesn't give you areas but you can take a guess then
> > calculate your own if really ambitious.
> >
> >
)> >
>
>
> Seems like Denver would be close to SLC and Phoenix, but
> it's non-contiguous nature makes it hard to tell (Why are
> the Denver, Sioux Falls, and Norfolk markets allowed to be
> non-contiguous, anyway). At the very least it's fourth
> behind Fairbanks, SLC, and Phoenix. . .
>
I would say they probably operate translators that is why they are not-contiguous.
Some of the market shapes are very odd at best. I think outside of Alaska, Utah would be the largest. Maybe if I get bored enough the weekend I can calculate the areas a bit.<P ID="signature">______________
Once I figured out the meaning of life....Then I forgot to write it down.</P>
Actually, why would Denver cover all of Colorado when you have Colorado Springs in the south and Grand Junction in the west? Therefore, Denver only covers northern Colorado and parts of southern Wyoming and Western Nebraska.
Also, Tucson and Yuma in AZ take up some space as seen on the map. New Mexico only has Alburquerque, my present "home town". <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by dustintv on 10/01/05 03:49 PM.</FONT></P>
Also, Tucson and Yuma in AZ take up some space as seen on the map. New Mexico only has Alburquerque, my present "home town". <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by dustintv on 10/01/05 03:49 PM.</FONT></P>
> Also, Tucson and Yuma in AZ take up some space as seen on
> the map. New Mexico only has Alburquerque, my present "home
> town".
>
New Mexico is also served by Amarillo and El Paso from Texas.<P ID="signature">______________
Once I figured out the meaning of life....Then I forgot to write it down.</P>
> the map. New Mexico only has Alburquerque, my present "home
> town".
>
New Mexico is also served by Amarillo and El Paso from Texas.<P ID="signature">______________
Once I figured out the meaning of life....Then I forgot to write it down.</P>
K
KMRichards
Guest
> > Also, Tucson and Yuma in AZ take up some space as seen on
> > the map. New Mexico only has Alburquerque, my present
> "home
> > town".
> >
> New Mexico is also served by Amarillo and El Paso from
> Texas.
IIRC, a specific county or parish is assigned to a television market based on what stations are most significantly viewed in it. Translators count in that assignation; hence Inyo County in California is assigned to the Los Angeles market because most of its television has (for decades) come via translators which pick up the L.A. stations using high-gain directional antennas on a peak high enough to get a clear shot to Mount Wilson near Pasadena. Although there is no way a resident of Bishop (the largest city in Inyo County) could receive the primary stations due to distance and topography, they can receive the translators, though. If those translators were instead retransmitting Las Vegas, Fresno, or Reno stations, Inyo County would be in one of those markets.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> > the map. New Mexico only has Alburquerque, my present
> "home
> > town".
> >
> New Mexico is also served by Amarillo and El Paso from
> Texas.
IIRC, a specific county or parish is assigned to a television market based on what stations are most significantly viewed in it. Translators count in that assignation; hence Inyo County in California is assigned to the Los Angeles market because most of its television has (for decades) come via translators which pick up the L.A. stations using high-gain directional antennas on a peak high enough to get a clear shot to Mount Wilson near Pasadena. Although there is no way a resident of Bishop (the largest city in Inyo County) could receive the primary stations due to distance and topography, they can receive the translators, though. If those translators were instead retransmitting Las Vegas, Fresno, or Reno stations, Inyo County would be in one of those markets.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
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KeithE
Guest
> Click here ---> Link to National and State Maps of TV
> Markets.
>
> Doesn't give you areas but you can take a guess then
> calculate your own if really ambitious.
My guess is that the 4 biggest are:
1. Salt Lake City - All of Utah, NE Nevada, SW Wyoming, far southern Idaho, and Arizona north of the Colorado River.
2. Albuquerque - All of New Mexico except for Las Cruces (El Paso) and the NE part of the state (Amarillo), plus the eastern part of the Navajo Nation in Arizona.
3. Phoenix - All of Arizona except for Yuma County (Yuma/El Centro), the other counties along the Mexican border (Tucson), the eastern part of the Navajo Nation (Albuquerque), and north of the Colorado River (SLC), plus the Blythe CA area. Southern Mojave County (Kingman, Boulder City, Lake Havasu, & the Hoover Dam area) has translators of Phoenix and Las Vegas stations but is considered part of the Phoenix market. Northern Mohave County is part of the SLC market, being north of the Colorado River.
4. Denver - All of Colorado other than the far western (Grand Junction) and southeastern parts (Colorado Springs/Pueblo), plus parts of Wyoming and Nebraska.
I don't think the Fairbanks market encompasses most of Alaska. From what I understand, only the immediate metro areas of Anchorage and Fairbanks are considered part of those markets.
> Markets.
>
> Doesn't give you areas but you can take a guess then
> calculate your own if really ambitious.
My guess is that the 4 biggest are:
1. Salt Lake City - All of Utah, NE Nevada, SW Wyoming, far southern Idaho, and Arizona north of the Colorado River.
2. Albuquerque - All of New Mexico except for Las Cruces (El Paso) and the NE part of the state (Amarillo), plus the eastern part of the Navajo Nation in Arizona.
3. Phoenix - All of Arizona except for Yuma County (Yuma/El Centro), the other counties along the Mexican border (Tucson), the eastern part of the Navajo Nation (Albuquerque), and north of the Colorado River (SLC), plus the Blythe CA area. Southern Mojave County (Kingman, Boulder City, Lake Havasu, & the Hoover Dam area) has translators of Phoenix and Las Vegas stations but is considered part of the Phoenix market. Northern Mohave County is part of the SLC market, being north of the Colorado River.
4. Denver - All of Colorado other than the far western (Grand Junction) and southeastern parts (Colorado Springs/Pueblo), plus parts of Wyoming and Nebraska.
I don't think the Fairbanks market encompasses most of Alaska. From what I understand, only the immediate metro areas of Anchorage and Fairbanks are considered part of those markets.
> > > Also, Tucson and Yuma in AZ take up some space as seen
> on
> > > the map. New Mexico only has Alburquerque, my present
> > "home
> > > town".
> > >
> > New Mexico is also served by Amarillo and El Paso from
> > Texas.
>
> IIRC, a specific county or parish is assigned to a
> television market based on what stations are most
> significantly viewed in it. Translators count in that
> assignation; hence Inyo County in California is assigned to
> the Los Angeles market because most of its television has
> (for decades) come via translators which pick up the L.A.
> stations using high-gain directional antennas on a peak high
> enough to get a clear shot to Mount Wilson near Pasadena.
> Although there is no way a resident of Bishop (the largest
> city in Inyo County) could receive the primary stations due
> to distance and topography, they can receive the
> translators, though. If those translators were instead
> retransmitting Las Vegas, Fresno, or Reno stations, Inyo
> County would be in one of those markets.
>
And, of course, satellite stations. KWAB/4 Big Spring, TX,
satellite of KWES/9 Midland/Odessa/Monahans, is considered
part of Midland/Odessa/Monahans, to use an example.
> on
> > > the map. New Mexico only has Alburquerque, my present
> > "home
> > > town".
> > >
> > New Mexico is also served by Amarillo and El Paso from
> > Texas.
>
> IIRC, a specific county or parish is assigned to a
> television market based on what stations are most
> significantly viewed in it. Translators count in that
> assignation; hence Inyo County in California is assigned to
> the Los Angeles market because most of its television has
> (for decades) come via translators which pick up the L.A.
> stations using high-gain directional antennas on a peak high
> enough to get a clear shot to Mount Wilson near Pasadena.
> Although there is no way a resident of Bishop (the largest
> city in Inyo County) could receive the primary stations due
> to distance and topography, they can receive the
> translators, though. If those translators were instead
> retransmitting Las Vegas, Fresno, or Reno stations, Inyo
> County would be in one of those markets.
>
And, of course, satellite stations. KWAB/4 Big Spring, TX,
satellite of KWES/9 Midland/Odessa/Monahans, is considered
part of Midland/Odessa/Monahans, to use an example.
> I don't think the Fairbanks market encompasses most of
> Alaska. From what I understand, only the immediate metro
> areas of Anchorage and Fairbanks are considered part of
> those markets.
Anchorage stations have much stronger signals than those in Fairbanks as well. Although both have translator networks, I believe Anchorage's is larger. Anchorage includes all of the Kenai peninsula and the Mat-Su valley. I believe the Anchorage signals are distributed statewide, except in Fairbanks, Juneau, and maybe Ketchikan and Sitka.
> Alaska. From what I understand, only the immediate metro
> areas of Anchorage and Fairbanks are considered part of
> those markets.
Anchorage stations have much stronger signals than those in Fairbanks as well. Although both have translator networks, I believe Anchorage's is larger. Anchorage includes all of the Kenai peninsula and the Mat-Su valley. I believe the Anchorage signals are distributed statewide, except in Fairbanks, Juneau, and maybe Ketchikan and Sitka.
> I was surprised the Fargo market doesn't cover more
> territory with the two tallest towers located there.
>
Central and western ND are served by stations in Bismarck, Minot and Dickinson. I'm guessing the main stations are either in Bismarck or Minot, with satellites in the other cities.
> territory with the two tallest towers located there.
>
Central and western ND are served by stations in Bismarck, Minot and Dickinson. I'm guessing the main stations are either in Bismarck or Minot, with satellites in the other cities.
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ShawnHill
Guest
> IIRC, a specific county or parish is assigned to a
> television market based on what stations are most
> significantly viewed in it. Translators count in that
> assignation; hence Inyo County in California is assigned to
> the Los Angeles market because most of its television has
> (for decades) come via translators which pick up the L.A.
> stations using high-gain directional antennas on a peak high
> enough to get a clear shot to Mount Wilson near Pasadena.
> Although there is no way a resident of Bishop (the largest
> city in Inyo County) could receive the primary stations due
> to distance and topography, they can receive the
> translators, though. If those translators were instead
> retransmitting Las Vegas, Fresno, or Reno stations, Inyo
> County would be in one of those markets.
>
Seeing as that Inyo County is a lot closer to Las Vegas than Los Angeles, I wonder why Inyo wasn't put into the Las Vegas TV DMA instead of L.A.
On a different note, looking at the map from a few posts above, it's strange that Riverside County is split into three DMAs--Los Angeles (western Riverside, including its city namesake), Palm Springs (central Riverside), and Phoenix (far-eastern Riverside), and unofficially, you can probably consider southern Riverside County (like Lake Elsinore and Temecula) part of the San Diego market, with San Diego being the smallest Top 30 market in the country based on land area; its too bad that northern Baja California isn't officially considered part of the San Diego market.
> television market based on what stations are most
> significantly viewed in it. Translators count in that
> assignation; hence Inyo County in California is assigned to
> the Los Angeles market because most of its television has
> (for decades) come via translators which pick up the L.A.
> stations using high-gain directional antennas on a peak high
> enough to get a clear shot to Mount Wilson near Pasadena.
> Although there is no way a resident of Bishop (the largest
> city in Inyo County) could receive the primary stations due
> to distance and topography, they can receive the
> translators, though. If those translators were instead
> retransmitting Las Vegas, Fresno, or Reno stations, Inyo
> County would be in one of those markets.
>
Seeing as that Inyo County is a lot closer to Las Vegas than Los Angeles, I wonder why Inyo wasn't put into the Las Vegas TV DMA instead of L.A.
On a different note, looking at the map from a few posts above, it's strange that Riverside County is split into three DMAs--Los Angeles (western Riverside, including its city namesake), Palm Springs (central Riverside), and Phoenix (far-eastern Riverside), and unofficially, you can probably consider southern Riverside County (like Lake Elsinore and Temecula) part of the San Diego market, with San Diego being the smallest Top 30 market in the country based on land area; its too bad that northern Baja California isn't officially considered part of the San Diego market.
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