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TV Newsie Causes Bobby, Jr. to Lose It

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FredLeonard

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On the one hand, this shows the kind of hot-headed arrogance and sense of entitlement associated with the Kennedys. On the other hand, I bet a lot of people have wanted to give it to some impertinent newsie who sticks a mic in their face and asks really stupid or insensitive questions.


DailyMail.co.uk said:
Robert F Kennedy Jr loses his cool and grabs mic from reporter pushing him about his own carbon footprint

- Environmental lawyer was a leader in New York climate change march
- Reporter asked him if he would 'lead by example' and give up his phone
- Kennedy Jr became visibly irate, grabbed microphone, called her 'inane'
- Outburst came during protest which tens of thousands attended

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-pushing-carbon-footprint.html#ixzz3E8GgkfOH
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The "reporter" in question works for right-wing PJ Media and probably wanted a response. And she got it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media
 
Why did you use the nickname "Bobby, Jr." in the title of this discussion? I doubt many folks seeing it for the first time would have instantly associated it with the Robert Kennedy Jr. of the family of that included a former president of the United States.
 
Quoted rude comment removed.

Yep.
 
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It was a fair question, and the response highlights greatly the hypocrisy of the whole 'movement' that a few apparently marched about.
 
The "rude comment" offered the opinion that Marco's objection to "Bobby, Jr." was predictable.

Fan: Your use of "a few" seems to suggest that concern about environmental issues is limited to a small part of the population, perhaps even a fringe element of the population. Clearly, this is not so. And "hypocrisy" is not limited to politicians at either end of the political spectrum.
 
It's hypocrisy to advocate that other people reduce their so called 'carbon footprint' while living a lifestyle that has a comparably large 'carbon footprint'. I don't see this kind of hypocrisy on the other side of the issue, but back on topic, the question asked by the reporter was a legitimate one. In another interview, Mr. Kennedy seemed to advocate to make illegal expressing opinions different from his own on the issue:

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2014/09/robert_f_kennedy_jr_climate-ch.html

100,000 people gathering in a metro area with a population of about 10 million didn't strike me as highly significant. More showed up in Ann Arbor this weekednd to watch a terrible football game. That was the basis of my reference to a 'few', nothing other than that.
 
Hypocrisy is not limited to this one issue. Most blatantly, many right-wing politicians express views on "social issues" completely contradictory to how they conduct their personal lives. And they take pro-war stances, while having avoided ever serving themselves and making sure their children do not.

It's sad that more people are concerned about "football" than the environment. NPR did a story recently on dramatic drops in student attendance at "football" games. And in its conduct of big time sports, the NCAA and major sports schools outdo the politicians in the hypocrisy department.
 
firepoint525 said:
Mario500 said:
Why did you use the nickname "Bobby, Jr." in the title of this discussion? I doubt many folks seeing it for the first time would have instantly associated it with the Robert Kennedy Jr. of the family of that included a former president of the United States.

Rude comment removed.
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My comment was not "rude," Frankie. It was very accurate. Better question, why did you leave Mario's comment up? Keep this up, and you will chase us ALL over to radio insight. Many of us here are sick and tired of Mario's holier-than-thou behavior.
 
FredLeonard said:
The "rude comment" offered the opinion that Marco's objection to "Bobby, Jr." was predictable.
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That is correct. And that opinion is one supportable by considerable evidence from prior posts. It was predictable.

FredLeonard said:
It's sad that more people are concerned about "football" than the environment. NPR did a story recently on dramatic drops in student attendance at "football" games. And in its conduct of big time sports, the NCAA and major sports schools outdo the politicians in the hypocrisy department.
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Is there some reason why you put the word football in scare quotes? Scare quotes or shudder quotes are quotation marks placed around a word or phrase to imply that it may not signify its apparent meaning or that it is not necessarily the way the quoting person would express its concept. The quotes serve a function similar to verbally prefixing a phrase with "so-called". When referred to as "scare quotes", the quotation marks are suggested to imply skepticism of or disagreement with the quoted terminology. So, are you attempting to make some sort of point that "football" may not signify its apparent meaning?

And before anyone gets delete happy or accuses me of being "off-topic" or "complaining", asking someone for clarification of the meaning of a post is most definitely on-topic in a discussion.
 
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This thread resembles a scenting match between a couple of skunks. It just started with Mr. Kennedy and the reporter, and devolved further from there. And while Mario can be rather nit-picky, in this case pointing out that many younger readers wouldn't know about Bobby Jr., in this case his argument had a little merit. I'm in my 50s, and I wasn't sure who Bobby Jr. was. Guess that's why a person goes beyond the title of the thread. And this comes from someone (me) who doesn't always do the best job of titling his own threads.
 
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Is there some reason why you put the word football in scare quotes? Scare quotes or shudder quotes are quotation marks placed around a word or phrase to imply that it may not signify its apparent meaning or that it is not necessarily the way the quoting person would express its concept. The quotes serve a function similar to verbally prefixing a phrase with "so-called". When referred to as "scare quotes", the quotation marks are suggested to imply skepticism of or disagreement with the quoted terminology. So, are you attempting to make some sort of point that "football" may not signify its apparent meaning?
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"Scare quotes?" That seems a bit "scary" itself.

I used quotes because the game to which UMFan referred is not really football. Football is a game played throughout the world in which the feet are actually used.
 
umfan said:
It was a fair question, and the response highlights greatly the hypocrisy of the whole 'movement' that a few apparently marched about.
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Well... yes. We are all hypcrites is some sense. Whenever climate changes advocates have conferences or have to travel somewhere for their cause, they are adding to their carbon footprint by flying in air planes and renting cars. Should they drive an electric car accross the country? That's not really practical. While Bobby Jr. (excuse me - Robert Jr) shouldn't have been rude, I don't really understand any argument that cell phones increase anybody's carbon footprint. You can argue that anybody with a conscience shouldn't be using a device that requires the mining of coltan, which is generally mined in the war-torn Congo by virtually slave labore - but that's another issue.

I did notice that in An Inconvient Truth, Al Gore
 
There have been news articles in the past about how much electricity Al Gore uses in his own home lighting it up for the public to see. Maybe a lot of it is solar but who knows? :rolleyes:
 
FredLeonard said:
"Scare quotes?" That seems a bit "scary" itself.

I used quotes because the game to which UMFan referred is not really football. Football is a game played throughout the world in which the feet are actually used.
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That is not correct. The game played throughout the world in which only the feet are used is called Футбол in Russian, Fútbol in Spanish, Ποδόσφαιρο in Greek, fotboll in Swedish, Futebol in Portuguese, サッカー in Japanese, 축구 in Korean, foutbòl in Haiti, 足球 in China, Nogomet in Bosnia, хөлбөмбөгийн in Mongolia, calcio in Italy, and Peil in Ireland.
 
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