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TV Show Downloading - Here Come the Russians

Two Russian entrepreneurs who are currently bringing the world access to cheap MP3s thanks to loopholes in Russian copyright law now want to bring Americans cheap access to commercial free network TV shows, whether the networks want them to or not.

In one of the "insider" private forums I dwell in to see what the Russians are up to, I have seen discussions on launching a new ALLOFUSTV service that would charge a flat $10-15 per month or 20c per TV show for access to commercial-free versions of most U.S. network television shows. Hosted on servers in Russia, Azerbaijan, Estonia, and possibly Uzbekistan, the service would sail around U.S. copyright laws and the bit-torrent crackdowns, as well as copyright enforcement, and provide more than 50 TV series from its launch.

Obviously shows would be recorded off-air, commercials deleted, and files uploaded in multiple formats for display on home computers as well as new video iPods.

The driving force of the service? The feeling that asking for 99c or an even more outrageous $2.49 per show is way overpriced, and the Russians can cash in and give Americans low/no-risk access to their favorite shows with little chance of any law enforcement action.

Attempts by American copyright agencies to stop the Russian services from dealing in MP3 files met with a Berlin Wall of resistance, with no enforcement action coming in the future, and a denial of access to subscriber records. The Russian services now destroy those records routinely to prevent future legal actions.

As eastern Europe continues to struggle with copyright issues, the next major source of servers and bandwidth for copyright-questionable material will be in Asia, particularly the PR of China and the developing countries of southeast Asia where copyrights are routinely flaunted.

As has always been the case, content providers trying to stem the flow of piracy are going to be play whack-a-mole forever until they price their services at a level that makes piracy simply not worth it.
 
> Two Russian entrepreneurs who are currently bringing the
> world access to cheap MP3s thanks to loopholes in Russian
> copyright law now want to bring Americans cheap access to
> commercial free network TV shows, whether the networks want
> them to or not.
>
> In one of the "insider" private forums I dwell in to see
> what the Russians are up to, I have seen discussions on
> launching a new ALLOFUSTV service that would charge a flat
> $10-15 per month or 20c per TV show for access to
> commercial-free versions of most U.S. network television
> shows. Hosted on servers in Russia, Azerbaijan, Estonia,
> and possibly Uzbekistan, the service would sail around U.S.
> copyright laws and the bit-torrent crackdowns, as well as
> copyright enforcement, and provide more than 50 TV series
> from its launch.
>
> Obviously shows would be recorded off-air, commercials
> deleted, and files uploaded in multiple formats for display
> on home computers as well as new video iPods.
>
> The driving force of the service? The feeling that asking
> for 99c or an even more outrageous $2.49 per show is way
> overpriced, and the Russians can cash in and give Americans
> low/no-risk access to their favorite shows with little
> chance of any law enforcement action.
>
> Attempts by American copyright agencies to stop the Russian
> services from dealing in MP3 files met with a Berlin Wall of
> resistance, with no enforcement action coming in the future,
> and a denial of access to subscriber records. The Russian
> services now destroy those records routinely to prevent
> future legal actions.
>
> As eastern Europe continues to struggle with copyright
> issues, the next major source of servers and bandwidth for
> copyright-questionable material will be in Asia,
> particularly the PR of China and the developing countries of
> southeast Asia where copyrights are routinely flaunted.
>
> As has always been the case, content providers trying to
> stem the flow of piracy are going to be play whack-a-mole
> forever until they price their services at a level that
> makes piracy simply not worth it.
>
I think the final outcome will depend on the quality of the downloads and what people will put up with.

The Chinese have established there is a clear market (however limited) for poor quality DVDs that are bootlegged. eBay provides a market for these already.

For instance Disney's Song Of The South has never been released on DVD. A quick look on eBay shows 113 DVDs available. Gee guess how that happened :)

So it'll boil down to are the downloads acceptable? They don't have to be perfect just acceptable and will the be full of viruses and spam?

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> > Two Russian entrepreneurs who are currently bringing the
> > world access to cheap MP3s thanks to loopholes in Russian
> > copyright law now want to bring Americans cheap access to
> > commercial free network TV shows, whether the networks
> want
> > them to or not.
> >
> > In one of the "insider" private forums I dwell in to see
> > what the Russians are up to, I have seen discussions on
> > launching a new ALLOFUSTV service that would charge a flat
>
> > $10-15 per month or 20c per TV show for access to
> > commercial-free versions of most U.S. network television
> > shows. Hosted on servers in Russia, Azerbaijan, Estonia,
> > and possibly Uzbekistan, the service would sail around
> U.S.
> > copyright laws and the bit-torrent crackdowns, as well as
> > copyright enforcement, and provide more than 50 TV series
> > from its launch.
> >
> > Obviously shows would be recorded off-air, commercials
> > deleted, and files uploaded in multiple formats for
> display
> > on home computers as well as new video iPods.
> >
> > The driving force of the service? The feeling that asking
>
> > for 99c or an even more outrageous $2.49 per show is way
> > overpriced, and the Russians can cash in and give
> Americans
> > low/no-risk access to their favorite shows with little
> > chance of any law enforcement action.
> >
> > Attempts by American copyright agencies to stop the
> Russian
> > services from dealing in MP3 files met with a Berlin Wall
> of
> > resistance, with no enforcement action coming in the
> future,
> > and a denial of access to subscriber records. The Russian
>
> > services now destroy those records routinely to prevent
> > future legal actions.
> >
> > As eastern Europe continues to struggle with copyright
> > issues, the next major source of servers and bandwidth for
>
> > copyright-questionable material will be in Asia,
> > particularly the PR of China and the developing countries
> of
> > southeast Asia where copyrights are routinely flaunted.
> >
> > As has always been the case, content providers trying to
> > stem the flow of piracy are going to be play whack-a-mole
> > forever until they price their services at a level that
> > makes piracy simply not worth it.
> >
> I think the final outcome will depend on the quality of the
> downloads and what people will put up with.
>
> The Chinese have established there is a clear market
> (however limited) for poor quality DVDs that are bootlegged.
> eBay provides a market for these already.
>
> For instance Disney's Song Of The South has never been
> released on DVD. A quick look on eBay shows 113 DVDs
> available. Gee guess how that happened :)
>
> So it'll boil down to are the downloads acceptable? They
> don't have to be perfect just acceptable and will the be
> full of viruses and spam?
>

I'm guessing that they'll be of the same quality as most of what you can already find on BitTorrent and elsewhere, which is definitely acceptable. The quality of pirate DVDs has also increased greatly in the past few years, probably because the pirates realize that nobody (in the West, at least) will settle for crappy handcam stuff.

Once the networks actually make a serious effort to offer downloads at a reasonable price, the pirates will just move on to something else.
 
> The Chinese have established there is a clear market
> (however limited) for poor quality DVDs that are bootlegged.
> eBay provides a market for these already.
>

The Russian site "allofmp3" provides songs encoded on-the-fly in whatever format you choose: MP3, WMA, FLAC, OGG and even WAV with no data compression whatsoever. I've heard some MP3's encoded at 320 kbps using the LAME encoder and the result is amazing. If the TV version is going to offer the same attention to quality...sign me up!!
 
One difference, though. To have access to US TV shows, someone in the U.S. (or Canada or Mexico) is going to have to record them to be sent, e-mailed, whatever, to Russia. Seems like it would be easy to shut that individual down.
 
> The Chinese have established there is a clear market
> (however limited) for poor quality DVDs that are bootlegged.
> eBay provides a market for these already.
>
And if you don't believe us, ask an anime fan -- chances are he'll have at least one "HK DVD" from "MAC", "FX" or "MI" in their collection.
 
> > The Chinese have established there is a clear market
> > (however limited) for poor quality DVDs that are
> bootlegged.
> > eBay provides a market for these already.
> >
> And if you don't believe us, ask an anime fan -- chances are
> he'll have at least one "HK DVD" from "MAC", "FX" or "MI" in
> their collection.
>

Ok, I admit it, I have ONE, just ONE, it's a DVD of Jin-Ro and I'm not sure if it's an HK or TW disc, I got it from a local video store that has since closed, all the rest of my DVD's are from US Distributors (Don't ask me to list them, I lost track at about 300)
 
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