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TV Show Remakes
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I wasn't aware there was a "new" Perry Mason".
The original H5-0 was much better than the new one IMHO although I am not a fan of either. The old show was, well, original. The new one is just one more off-the-shelf cop-a-rama with Hawaii as the backdrop. Although one could have called Jack Lord and James MacArthur "pretty boys" back in the day they are no match for the Hollywood flesh peddlers of today's rip-off version.
The original H5-0 was much better than the new one IMHO although I am not a fan of either. The old show was, well, original. The new one is just one more off-the-shelf cop-a-rama with Hawaii as the backdrop. Although one could have called Jack Lord and James MacArthur "pretty boys" back in the day they are no match for the Hollywood flesh peddlers of today's rip-off version.
The Life of Riley (1st with Jackie Gleason, then William Bendix). Bendix was better since he was the original on radio and film but contractually wasn't able do the first (1949-50) TV version. I've only seen a few brief clips of Gleason as Riley. It won an Emmy, but he and the character just didn't quite fit, at least to me. He portrayed Riley more as a prototype of Ralph Kramden. But hindsight is 20-20.
Temperature's Rising/The New Temperature's Rising Show (who came up with that name? :
). The latter was a complete waste of time.
The Honeymooners - the 2nd (late '60s) go-round as part of the Jackie Gleason show. The musicals were horrid and the attempts to recycle the old Cavalcade of Stars' Honeymooners scripts missed their mark a lot. Shiela MacRae was horrid as Alice.
Dragnet - I liked the '60s version with Harry Morgan better.
The 87 different variations of The Brady Bunch. I think a loop of all the shows in succession was being used to torture prisoners at Guantanamo. ;D
The Munsters/The Munsters Today - John Schuck was no Fred Gwynne, and Al Lewis was irreplaceable as Grandpa.
I'm not counting shows that changed their names due to a star leaving, such as All in the Family/Archie Bunker's Place, The Virginian/The Men from Shiloh, or The Andy Griffith Show/Mayberry RFD. I consider each to be one continuous show.
Temperature's Rising/The New Temperature's Rising Show (who came up with that name? :
). The latter was a complete waste of time.The Honeymooners - the 2nd (late '60s) go-round as part of the Jackie Gleason show. The musicals were horrid and the attempts to recycle the old Cavalcade of Stars' Honeymooners scripts missed their mark a lot. Shiela MacRae was horrid as Alice.
Dragnet - I liked the '60s version with Harry Morgan better.
The 87 different variations of The Brady Bunch. I think a loop of all the shows in succession was being used to torture prisoners at Guantanamo. ;D
The Munsters/The Munsters Today - John Schuck was no Fred Gwynne, and Al Lewis was irreplaceable as Grandpa.
I'm not counting shows that changed their names due to a star leaving, such as All in the Family/Archie Bunker's Place, The Virginian/The Men from Shiloh, or The Andy Griffith Show/Mayberry RFD. I consider each to be one continuous show.
Kojak- Telly Salvalas was Kojak. Ving Rhames starred in a remake that lasted ten episodes.
The Fugitive- David Janssen was excellent in the lead role. Tim Daly was not when the show was revamped and aired in 2000. Again, like the new Kojak, the show didn't make it past one season.
Dragnet- Jack Webb and Harry Morgan; perfect combo. Ed O'Neil "Al Bundy" just didn't cut it as an LA Detective.
The Twilight Zone - Rod Serling's originals were not only classics but some episodes were damn scary. The newer version of the show was anti-climatic.
The Fugitive- David Janssen was excellent in the lead role. Tim Daly was not when the show was revamped and aired in 2000. Again, like the new Kojak, the show didn't make it past one season.
Dragnet- Jack Webb and Harry Morgan; perfect combo. Ed O'Neil "Al Bundy" just didn't cut it as an LA Detective.
The Twilight Zone - Rod Serling's originals were not only classics but some episodes were damn scary. The newer version of the show was anti-climatic.
Knight Rider remake of 2008 wasn't a success on NBC since the success of the original in the 1980s with Hasselhoff.
landtuna said:
In 1973, "The New Adventures of Perry Mason" was produced for CBS, starring Monte Markham as Perry Mason -- unfortunately, competing against Disney and The FBI on Sunday nights, it lasted only 15 episodes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Adventures_of_Perry_Mason
And of course, in 1985, Raymond Burr returned in the first of a series of "Perry Mason" TV movies on NBC -- the movies outlived Burr, who died in 1993, with Paul Sorvino, then Hal Holbrook, replacing Burr as star (not sure about the role) for the last four movies that took the franchise to 1995.
KeithE4 said:Temperature's Rising/The New Temperature's Rising Show (who came up with that name? :
Both are practically the same series, which was overhauled twice in hopes that the changes would lead to better ratings. Clevon Little was the only star who was involved with all three versions of the series:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperatures_Rising
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You could throw in all the Superman/Batman series, if you include animation.
Countless game shows have been remade as well...a list too long to mention (IOW, I don't feel like typing). I will say that "The Price is Right" as it airs now has outlived it's predecessor (starring Bill Cullen) 4 times as long.
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Countless game shows have been remade as well...a list too long to mention (IOW, I don't feel like typing). I will say that "The Price is Right" as it airs now has outlived it's predecessor (starring Bill Cullen) 4 times as long.
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onairb said:
I don't think Perry Mason would hold up today. We've all seen too many court room dramas where the outcome is decided by an unlikely twist of fate as were most of the old Mason shows. And if it is aired as just another drama the Perry Mason name is just an advertising scheme similar to Hawaii 5-0.
This made me think of a couple recent game shows that were essentially old shows with new names, which the producers got away with because most of their audiences were too young to remember the originals.
"Minute To Win It" (with Guy Fieri from the Food Network)..."Beat The Clock"
"Figure It Out" (was on Nickelodeon some years ago)..."I've Got A Secret"
"Identity" (Hosted by Penn Jillette a few years ago)...The "Who's Who" segment from the syndicated version of "What's My Line?" stretched out to an hour (maybe half hour, but still!)
They never seem to learn that remakes in television and even movies seldom work, the remake is almost always a very poor imitation of the original.....is the industry so devoid of creativity that the are just out of ideas? Was there a great demand from the public for a remake of Arthur or the Posiden adventure especially when the originals would be very had to equal let alone beat.
How about CW bringing back Melrose place, & their version flopped. I personally thought it was good, but the wrong network had the show. While it didn't have much of the original cast, it overall had a new cast living at Melrose Place creating new drama. The only regular from the original Melrose Place that was in the CW version nearly the entire run was Heather Locklear. The storylines simply weren't good enough, along with being on the wrong network ended up doing doing well. I'm surprised 90210 (original was Beverly Hills 90210) is doing well for CW, though it doesn't even come close to the original as far as the original cast, or the original series. Yeah they had a few guest spots for the original cast, but CW scrapped that idea and made it into something not even close to the original. Not sure how long 90210 will stay on, but it's terrible.
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Mission Impossible. Though both series featured Peter Graves, the 80's revival was a pale
shell of the original.
I was a big fan of the original, as well as the original Hawaii Five-O. The biggest problem with
the new Five-0 in my view is that they appear to be going out and taking some kind of poll
on hipness, coolness, and other cultural indicators, and then they are trying to write
characters and stories around all of that.
Just develop good characters and strong stories, and the buzz will take care of itself.
shell of the original.
I was a big fan of the original, as well as the original Hawaii Five-O. The biggest problem with
the new Five-0 in my view is that they appear to be going out and taking some kind of poll
on hipness, coolness, and other cultural indicators, and then they are trying to write
characters and stories around all of that.
Just develop good characters and strong stories, and the buzz will take care of itself.
I would call the new 90210 more of a spinoff than a remake, since Erin Silver (David and Kelly's half-sister) was cast in the new show. But I haven't watched it, so I can't really comment on the quality of it.Dave said:
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The first couple of seasons of Star Trek TNG were quite tedious.
It was only when Gene Roddenberry died and the producers gave up on
his vision of a "non-violent action/adventure series" that they were
free to build it into a successful show.
It was only when Gene Roddenberry died and the producers gave up on
his vision of a "non-violent action/adventure series" that they were
free to build it into a successful show.
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