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TV Shows that ran too long.

FreddyE1977 said:
nomadcowatbk said:
firepoint525 said:
Any show in it that has children as the main character(s) should be cancelled once the kid(s) grow(s) up.

And die hard Wonder Years fans bitch that Kevin never got a senior year


Were you die hard Wonder Years fans out there aware of this...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/12/danica-mckellar-wonder-ye_n_573644.html

Gee, she's uh...multi-talented. McKellar also wrote three mathematics books a few years ago. She appeared on a few talk shows to publicize them. As an math undergraduate at UCLA (graduate summa *** laude)she is the co-author of the 'Chayes–McKellar–Winn theorem'.
 
Bob1370 said:
Did Gleason stay on TV too long? The audiences didn't think so, his ratings were healthy right to the end, and while he may have made one two many "Smokey and the Bandit" films, his last work with Hanks in "Nothing In Common" was excellent, and the film likewise.

Not really true. While his core audience remained, the fact was that his show plummeted from #9 in 1967-68 to #25 in 1968-69, and was out of the Nielsen Top 30 altogether in 1969-70. They may've been decent enough to warrant a renewal, but also CBS was getting sick and tired of dealing with Gleason who had apparently become something of a major headache for them (if one saw former CBS exec Mike Dann's comments in the Biography episode dealing with The Great One).

But as for the MacRaes: That was also brought up in James Bacon's Gleason bio How Sweet It Is: The Jackie Gleason Story.
 
nomadcowatbk said:
firepoint525 said:
Any show in it that has children as the main character(s) should be cancelled once the kid(s) grow(s) up.
And die hard Wonder Years fans bitch that Kevin never got a senior year
Well, we can say that they all got early college admissions, and skipped their senior year! 8) Weren't they all rather smart?

Seriously, I had heard that internal feuding on the set is what killed that show, one year early in the minds of most.
 
bpatrick said:
"Dallas"
should have ended after "Bobby's in the shower and Pam dreamed the
entire previous season"; whatever credibility that show had vanished
after that.
And THAT, not any "shark-jumping" scene, should be the measuring stick for when a show has been on too long. We could say that when a show "takes a shower," it has been on for too long! ;D (Although I will admit to watching Dallas for at least a couple more years beyond that.)

It's too bad that they couldn't have also written off the season in which Donna Reed played Miss Ellie as a "dream," maybe more like a nightmare!
 
St. Elsewhere, one of my absolute all-time faves, but looking back on it now, they probably should have dropped it before the 1987-88 season, which turned out to be its last. That was the season of the Ecumena/Weigert takeover of the hospital, Dr. Westphall dropping his trousers and mooning Dr. Gideon (who came in with Ecumena/Weigert takeover, and otherwise wouldn't have been on the show at all), Dr. Craig's marriage troubles, the real-life lawsuit by Humana over the Ecumena name (which resulted in one episode almost not airing), the subsequent name change to Weigert, and then the final scene, with the whole show being a "dream" of Westphall's autistic son. Tommy go now!
 
Here is more TV Series that lasted too long:

Law and Order (1990 - 2010) Should've cancelled it when Jerry Orbeck left the series in 2006.

Cops (1989 - 2010) Could've called it quits in the mid 2000s

Growing Pains (1985 - 1992) By 1989 when they bought Christy into show.

America's Most Wanted (1988 - 2011 ,2011 -present) Even though they did catch alot of criminals the show ran way too long.

Gunsmoke (1955 - 1975) - 20 years (about 9-10 years too long IMO).

Golden Girls (1985 - 1992) 1-2 years too long.
 
TVCOOL said:
Here is more TV Series that lasted too long:

Law and Order (1990 - 2010) Should've cancelled it when Jerry Orbeck left the series in 2006.
Cops (1989 - 2010) Could've called it quits in the mid 2000s
Growing Pains (1985 - 1992) By 1989 when they bought Christy into show.
America's Most Wanted (1988 - 2011 ,2011 -present) Even though they did catch alot of criminals the show ran way too long.
Gunsmoke (1955 - 1975) - 20 years (about 9-10 years too long IMO).
Golden Girls (1985 - 1992) 1-2 years too long.
Agreed about all of the above except Golden Girls and America's Most Wanted. I think GG was just as funny in the last season as the first few.

I'm not personally an AMW viewer, but just last week, another couple of criminals - scam artists who had cheated retirees out of their life savings - were caught because somebody IDed them after seeing them on an AMW segment. So as far as I'm concerned, that show provides a valuable service.
 
The Cosby Show
Night Court
Alice
The Jeffersons
One Day at a Time
The Waltons
Diff'rent Strokes
Facts of Life
Dallas
Three's Company
Happy Days
Laverne & Shirley
Newhart
Murphy Brown
 
Mork and Mindy. Really died after the 2nd season but they kept it going for two more. Brought in Jonathon Winters as Mork's adult baby. Horribly foolish.
 
Seinfeld was mentioned by one poster and that's harsh. Even in its last couple of seasons it was by far the funniest, wittiest show on the tube. It ended just at the right time. Actually, in a way Jerry Seinfeld was telling us he was pulling the plug before it got stale, when he made "going out on a high note" a main running gag in the episode "The Burning" in March of 1998.

He later told an interviewer, IIRC for Time Magazine, that when the brass at NBC's parent company General Electric offered him $125 million in cash, stock options and a seat on the GE board to keep the show going for 1998-99, he still turned them down because he thought he had enough good story ideas for about 13 more shows (a half a season) and it was better to shut the series down a little too early than to pad it out and drag it on too long.
 
Bob1370 said:
Did Gleason stay on TV too long? The audiences didn't think so, his ratings were healthy right to the end, and while he may have made one two many "Smokey and the Bandit" films, his last work with Hanks in "Nothing In Common" was excellent, and the film likewise.
Somewhere in a vault is a copy of Gleason playing Burt Reynods as the Bandit. I'd love to see it though it's probably proof that Gleason made one too many "Bandit" movies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu4Ht2opvqY
 
Bob1370 said:
Seinfeld was mentioned by one poster and that's harsh. Even in its last couple of seasons it was by far the funniest, wittiest show on the tube. It ended just at the right time. Actually, in a way Jerry Seinfeld was telling us he was pulling the plug before it got stale, when he made "going out on a high note" a main running gag in the episode "The Burning" in March of 1998.

I second that. Seinfeld should have gone further than 1998. The whole series [especially Kramer/Michael Richards] is one of the funniest TV shows I have seen on the tube. Of course you also have I Love Lucy being funny too, but Seinfeld's probably the funniest show of the last couple decades.

-crainbebo
 
Makes me wonder why Seinfeld didn't work out some sort of deal with NBC to produce one final half-season's worth of shows, with the rest of the time to be filled by those "specials" that we have all seen, or perhaps a mid-season replacement.

I never watched Seinfeld, so it wouldn't have mattered to me.
 
I never found Seinfeld to be funny and I have what many friends consider a great sense of humor.

But that's not the reason for my post.

The other show I think was on the air for too long (besides Smallville) was that so-called sit-com starring Jim Belushi. I think it was called "Life with Jim".

I did try to watch that and it was NOT funny!
 
onairb said:
As I understand it, CBS was willing to bring Gleason back for '70-'71, but he and the network disagreed about the content; supposedly, the network wanted a mix of 'Honeymooners' and non-'Honeymooners' shows, while Jackie wanted to drop the variety shows and only do more Kramden-Norton adventures.

I always heard the opposite was true. CBS wanted all Honeymooners while Gleason wanted less. Gleason hated to rehearse and would only stand still for one run-through, if that, and he also hated to memorize dialog, so doing a full season of Honeymooners wasn't something he really wanted to do. (I recall he said it interfered with his two favorite pastimes: golf and drinking.) But when The Great One and CBS parted ways he had an iron-clad contract which although it prevented him from working for another network, paid him full salary for the next several years. When that ended, didn't he do a show on ABC in the 1970s, briefly, which included Honeymooners?

Gleason was a tough negotiator on contracts but often got his way by being blase and nonchalant, as if he didn't care. During one meeting he reportedly dozed off. The negotiator for CBS said "If he's that bored just give him what he wants!"

Gleason was a talented man who unfortunately did coast along too often, taking too many movie roles beneath his abilities and only realizing his talent occasionally in movies like "The Hustler." And as someone else pointed out, he was a major pain to CBS. He even made them buy his keyhole-shaped house in Peekskill New York when he moved to Florida full-time. They were stuck with it for years.
 
George Burns should never have continued his show after Gracie
decided to retire. "The George Burns Show" (1958) had all the
"Burns And Allen" regulars: Bea Benaderet, Larry Keating, Harry Von
Zell, and Ronnie Burns, but the real star of the show was missing and
wasn't coming back; she was enjoying her life with her friends and,
especially, her grandchildren. OTOH, I think "Wendy And Me" is an
overlooked gem that should have gone more than one season; Connie
Stevens might have made Gracie look like a genius but I still think she
and George played off each other pretty well.

As much of a fan as I am of "You Bet Your Life" I think Groucho went
about two years too long with it. The last two years (1959-61) he seemed
to be going through the motions, rarely seeming as sharp as he did in the
show's peak years in the middle '50s (and what was the point of the Mrs.
Housing Development contest besides giving Groucho a chance to ogle female
contestants in swimsuits?). His director, Bob Dwan, wrote a book
about the show, "As Long As They're Laughing," in which he argues that the
show began to go downhill when they added the wheel that determined the
value of the big question at the end of the show; he felt too much time was
spent on selecting the two numbers for $10,000 and $5000 respectively, spinning
the wheel, and asking the questions, meaning that the number of couples was cut
from three to two and thus less time for the conversational portion of the show.
 
As much as George should have not gone on without Gracie, I would still like to see some episodes of the George Burns Show, but I've seen it nowhere at this point, even on YouTube..PBS in Akron-Canton/Youngstown,Ohio ran Wendy and Me for a while in the 1980's after airing Burns and Allen earlier in the decade...
 
I'm a huge Burns and Allen fan, moreso of their radio show which is 100% better than the TV show. You can get it free off the Archive.Org.

The problem is Gracie Allen was careful to play Gracie basically as illogical rather than stupid. When Rose (Golden Girls) or Chrissie (Three's Company) or a host of others (Radio's "My Friend Irma") tried it they just come off as plain old stupid.

And don't get me wrong stupid can be entertaining, but you honestly believe Gracie just didn't see the world as everyone else did.

Gracie) My uncle invented a burglar alarm
George) He did?
Gracie) Yeah woke him up every day at midnight to go to work
Gracie) You have to be careful with police. One time my daddy went to his bank around two in the morning and would you believe the police kidnapped him and wouldn't let us have him till we paid them money.

George) And what about his "A chicken in every pot speech"
Gracie) A chicken in every pot sounds like a good idea, unless you happen to be a chicken
 
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