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TV shows you LOVED that were NOT popular......

Markieo said:
"The Paul Lynde Show" ABC 1972-73. If you can believe that Paul plays a straight married man with two daughters and a lazy son-in-law, well... :eek:

But most people didn't know about his being gay until after he died. It was a poorly-kept secret within Hollywood from what I've heard, but it wasn't well-known (or even suspected from what I remember) to the general public while he was still alive.
 
KeithE4 said:
Markieo said:
"The Paul Lynde Show" ABC 1972-73. If you can believe that Paul plays a straight married man with two daughters and a lazy son-in-law, well... :eek:

But most people didn't know about his being gay until after he died. It was a poorly-kept secret within Hollywood from what I've heard, but it wasn't well-known (or even suspected from what I remember) to the general public while he was still alive.

It was pretty much the exact same thing with a number of other gay actors back then such as Richard Deacon, Rock Hudson, Dick Sargent, Raymond Burr, Robert Reed, Sal Mineo, Edward Everett Horton and Agnes Moorehead. True Sargent had came out not long before his death but I do remember hearing a radio interview with Elizabeth Montgomery shortly after Sargent's death ( and sadly not long before Montgomery's ) claiming that she knew that both Sargent and Moorehead were gay when all of them were still doing Bewitched.
 
mleach said:
It was pretty much the exact same thing with a number of other gay actors back then such as Richard Deacon, Rock Hudson, Dick Sargent, Raymond Burr, Robert Reed, Sal Mineo, Edward Everett Horton and Agnes Moorehead. True Sargent had came out not long before his death but I do remember hearing a radio interview with Elizabeth Montgomery shortly after Sargent's death ( and sadly not long before Montgomery's ) claiming that she knew that both Sargent and Moorehead were gay when all of them were still doing Bewitched.

Some are more obvious than others. Even today, where it's so common to see gay people in all stripes of life, you still can't tell that most of the people you listed were gay by watching their performances on TV or in a movie. Paul Lynde was pretty obvious. In retrospect, Robert Reed was sneaking out of the closet during the last year of Brady, and Dick Sargent visually and aurally had some of the tendencies.

However, I'm sure it was a shock to many when Rock Hudson came out and the likes of Richard Deacon and Raymond Burr still have me in disbelief. They all hid their proclivities pretty well. As did Dusty Springfield.

Not that there's anything wrong with it...... ;)
 
ricksegers said:
I believe it was on Nickelodeon..an animated series called "Duckman". I also liked the animated Dilbert and the previously mentioned Critic and My World and Welcome to It. I had an opportunity to spend a hour interviewing William Windom when he came to Jackson, MS to do his one man show on Thurber too many years ago. I also liked the pre-Saturday Night Live show NBC ran monthly with Linda Ellerbee and Lloyd Dobbins called Weekend.

One mixed memory correction (I see someone else got to Duckman being on USA, but Count Duckula being on Nick):

The show that subbed for the first season of SNL one week a month was "Weekend" (the only NBC News program ever with an opening theme by The Rolling Stones), hosted by Dobyns.

The one with Ellerbee and Dobyns came later - it was "NBC News Overnight", airing in the post-Tonight Show slot formerly occupied by Tom Snyder's "Tomorrow" and eventually handed to David Letterman.
 
Markieo said:
Also "Camp Runamuck" NBC 1965-66. A screwball comedy of feuding summer camps, complete with talking bears!  :D

Which featured Dave Madden as a Camp Counselor, before his more famous TV roles, as one of the resident comics on Laugh-In (1968-70) and as Reuben Kincaid in The Partridge Family (1970-74).

Also:a young Maureen McCormick was featured in some "Runamuck" episodes as one of the Campers on the Girls side..Before "The Brady Bunch" (1969-74)
 
hubcity said:
The show that subbed for the first season of SNL one week a month was "Weekend" (the only NBC News program ever with an opening theme by The Rolling Stones), hosted by Dobyns.

I wonder: Was it after Weekend that SNL's mock-newscast "Weekend Update" was named?
 
hubcity said:
ricksegers said:
The one with Ellerbee and Dobyns came later - it was "NBC News Overnight", airing in the post-Tonight Show slot formerly occupied by Tom Snyder's "Tomorrow" and eventually handed to David Letterman.

According to the linked Wikipedia article, "NBC News Overnight" actually followed Letterman at 1:30-2:30 AM Eastern. It appears that after Overnight's cancellation, NBC would leave the 1:30 slot to the affiliates until "Later with Bob Costas" premiered in August 1988.

Out of curiousity, how much affiliate clearance did "Overnight" enjoy?
 
BRNout said:
mleach said:
It was pretty much the exact same thing with a number of other gay actors back then such as Richard Deacon, Rock Hudson, Dick Sargent, Raymond Burr, Robert Reed, Sal Mineo, Edward Everett Horton and Agnes Moorehead. True Sargent had came out not long before his death but I do remember hearing a radio interview with Elizabeth Montgomery shortly after Sargent's death ( and sadly not long before Montgomery's ) claiming that she knew that both Sargent and Moorehead were gay when all of them were still doing Bewitched.

Some are more obvious than others. Even today, where it's so common to see gay people in all stripes of life, you still can't tell that most of the people you listed were gay by watching their performances on TV or in a movie. Paul Lynde was pretty obvious. In retrospect, Robert Reed was sneaking out of the closet during the last year of Brady, and Dick Sargent visually and aurally had some of the tendencies.

However, I'm sure it was a shock to many when Rock Hudson came out and the likes of Richard Deacon and Raymond Burr still have me in disbelief. They all hid their proclivities pretty well. As did Dusty Springfield.

Not that there's anything wrong with it...... ;)

It's obvious why actors are hesitant to come out of the closet to this day - they're afraid of being typecast. Remember that it's acting, people - there's no reason a male actor who is gay in real life can't pretend to be in love with a woman in a movie, any less convincingly than a hetero male.

Having been around gay people of both sexes for many years, I've learned that some have "gay tendencies" - mannerisms, tastes. etc, but that many don't. I've known a gay male couple for years that are both totally macho male jock types with none of the stereotypical mannerisms or lifestyle choices (they like football, not musicals...their house isn't particularly tasteful - they're not even tidy!). To this day, I still want to ask them if they've been engaging in a decades long April Fools joke, and are really just roomates.
 
Tim from Springfield said:
According to the linked Wikipedia article, "NBC News Overnight" actually followed Letterman at 1:30-2:30 AM Eastern. It appears that after Overnight's cancellation, NBC would leave the 1:30 slot to the affiliates until "Later with Bob Costas" premiered in August 1988.

Out of curiousity, how much affiliate clearance did "Overnight" enjoy?

You're right - I corrected that on my subsequent blog post, but forgot to come back here and do the same. Looks like it started airing a few months after Letterman started up.

No clue on clearance, though - probably take a whole lot of TV Guides to figure that one out at this point...
 
wbhist said:
hubcity said:
The show that subbed for the first season of SNL one week a month was "Weekend" (the only NBC News program ever with an opening theme by The Rolling Stones), hosted by Dobyns.

I wonder: Was it after Weekend that SNL's mock-newscast "Weekend Update" was named?

That's a good question - I'd always thought it started airing after SNL started, since it was used to fill in the weeks when SNL wasn't doing a new show, but the Wikipedia article claims it started up in 1974 (SNL started in October, 1975; saw that premiere almost live, I did - I was in the Mountain time zone, on vacation.)
 
benwolf said:
And who else remembers NBC's "Bracken's World" about starlets in Hollywood? Lame show but gorgeous girls!

Funny you should mention this. I've never seen that show, but last weekend I caught "The Sound of Music" once again on TV for the umpteenth time. It's one of those movies I never plan on watching ahead of time, but I always seem to end up watching it anyway if I stumble upon it while channel surfing. I was curious about what became of the stars, so the next day I did some internet searches and discovered that Eleanor Parker (the Baronness) starred in Bracken's World. I don't think it lasted long.
 
i don't remember the title but, abc had a short lived series about Elvis on sometime in the late 80's, it was a half hour show as i remember and it was great, and i'm not an Elvis fanatic. but i loved the show.
 
It was called "Elvis." It followed "America's Funniest Home
Videos" Sunday nights on ABC in early 1990; I remember
Bob Saget urging viewers to "please stay tuned for 'Elvis.'"
 
Lkeller said:
BRNout said:
mleach said:
It was pretty much the exact same thing with a number of other gay actors back then such as Richard Deacon, Rock Hudson, Dick Sargent, Raymond Burr, Robert Reed, Sal Mineo, Edward Everett Horton and Agnes Moorehead. True Sargent had came out not long before his death but I do remember hearing a radio interview with Elizabeth Montgomery shortly after Sargent's death ( and sadly not long before Montgomery's ) claiming that she knew that both Sargent and Moorehead were gay when all of them were still doing Bewitched.

Some are more obvious than others. Even today, where it's so common to see gay people in all stripes of life, you still can't tell that most of the people you listed were gay by watching their performances on TV or in a movie. Paul Lynde was pretty obvious. In retrospect, Robert Reed was sneaking out of the closet during the last year of Brady, and Dick Sargent visually and aurally had some of the tendencies.

However, I'm sure it was a shock to many when Rock Hudson came out and the likes of Richard Deacon and Raymond Burr still have me in disbelief. They all hid their proclivities pretty well. As did Dusty Springfield.

Not that there's anything wrong with it...... ;)

It's obvious why actors are hesitant to come out of the closet to this day - they're afraid of being typecast. Remember that it's acting, people - there's no reason a male actor who is gay in real life can't pretend to be in love with a woman in a movie, any less convincingly than a hetero male.

Having been around gay people of both sexes for many years, I've learned that some have "gay tendencies" - mannerisms, tastes. etc, but that many don't. I've known a gay male couple for years that are both totally macho male jock types with none of the stereotypical mannerisms or lifestyle choices (they like football, not musicals...their house isn't particularly tasteful - they're not even tidy!). To this day, I still want to ask them if they've been engaging in a decades long April Fools joke, and are really just roomates.

I wonder if Garry Marshall put in that opening narration on "The Odd Couple"
("on November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place
of residence...that request came from his wife") and that both Felix and
Oscar had girlfriends (and Felix and Gloria did remarry), so viewers unfamiliar
with the play and movie would not assume Felix and Oscar were gay? Their
(especially Oscar's) encounters with the Pigeon sisters would be enough to
convince me they were straight.
 
Guns of Will Sonnett with Walter Brennan (after the Real McCoys and The Tycoon).
Branded with Chuck Connors.
Slattery's People.
The Hathaways...family raises three chimps as children, laughs ensue.
McKeever and the Colonel.

Yes, Apple's Way, I'll agree with whoever mentioned that show earlier.
 
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