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TV Tropo Cincinnati 6:30am August 7, 2008

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robmadden1

2.1-.2 dayton nbc

11 abc louisville

13.1-.2 nbc

20 pbs

23 my network

26 cw dayton

32 cbs louisville

40 indiana

42 tbn

53 cw

59.1 fox indiana

63.1-.4 ion indinapolis

68 pbs
 
robmadden1 said:
2.1-.2 dayton nbc

11 abc louisville

13.1-.2 nbc

20 pbs

23 my network

26 cw dayton

32 cbs louisville

40 indiana

42 tbn

53 cw

59.1 fox indiana

63.1-.4 ion indinapolis

68 pbs
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My 23 was probably WNDY 23 just north of indy.

A Tropo Opening on TV or FM generally invloves stuff beyond 200 miles or so. Everything listed here on on the Huge Tropo Opening on FM is all extended ground wave...some of it, such as Dayton is pure ground wave that with good equipment will be there 24/7. When St Louis crashes the dial party, that's a good tropo opening. When Kansas City weighs in on FM and stays there for hours or days (and I have seen that happen), that qualifies as a "Huge" tropo opening. By no strecth can any reception of an Indiana or Dayton station in Cincy qualify as huge.
 
Dayton should make it into Cincinnati every day. Indianapolis is a little farther out, but not entirely out of the possibility of daily reception depending on open frequencies. Now on the other hand, if a class A (6kw or less) or lower (translators and LPFM's) from Indianapolis or Louisville made it into Cincinnati then it would be worth noting.

In Coldwater, MI, I can count on daily reception from Detroit (100 miles) and Chicago (135 miles). I can also get WGNR and WIBC from Indianapolis on a daily basis. This is just with a $25 6-bay antenna.

I'm probably a youngster (26) compared to most DX'ers here, but i've been into DX'ing since I was in HS. I never logged my catches until '02. Six years and 1130 stations later, i'm still looking for new logs. It's good to see people still discovering the hobby. As you go along you'll discover more, farther away stations beyond Indy, Cincy or Louisville. Find an open frequency and if conditions are favorable, you'll hear stations from possibly 200 miles away.

Good DX'ing!
 
I was a beginner once myself, and there was certainly a time when hearing Indy from Ohio was a big deal to me. If I had a 60 foot tower and a really good reciever, a lot of what I consider DX now in the car would obviously be an every day occurrence. With the band as crowded as it is now, stations that used to be fairly common only make it under very good conditions (example: 103.3 used to get me either X103 out of Indy or WTCR in Ashland KY. Not any more with the religious translator. If I can pull Detroit from Dayton it's pretty good. I have heard Chicago and St Louis and the one really "huge" event a few years ago which netted strong signals from Saginaw MI and on into Canada. Then there was the time I actually pulled WIOT Toledo underneath WTUE Dayton 25 miles from WTUE's tower.

So Rob, don't be discouraged about posting your stuff. Get to know your local dial and what possibilities are there.
 
Lawppy said:
Dayton should make it into Cincinnati every day. Indianapolis is a little farther out, but not entirely out of the possibility of daily reception depending on open frequencies. Now on the other hand, if a class A (6kw or less) or lower (translators and LPFM's) from Indianapolis or Louisville made it into Cincinnati then it would be worth noting.

In Coldwater, MI, I can count on daily reception from Detroit (100 miles) and Chicago (135 miles). I can also get WGNR and WIBC from Indianapolis on a daily basis. This is just with a $25 6-bay antenna.

I'm probably a youngster (26) compared to most DX'ers here, but i've been into DX'ing since I was in HS. I never logged my catches until '02. Six years and 1130 stations later, i'm still looking for new logs. It's good to see people still discovering the hobby. As you go along you'll discover more, farther away stations beyond Indy, Cincy or Louisville. Find an open frequency and if conditions are favorable, you'll hear stations from possibly 200 miles away.

Good DX'ing!
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You would have enjoyed the FM band when I started DXing around 1970. Picture this...most of the locals signed off at 10PM, 11PM or midnight. From Cinicnnati, 93.7/Grand Rapids was there every night after WFCJ signed off. There were no class A's on Class B channels. I could aim my 9 element Channel Master Stereo Probe 9 south on 104.3 and wait no more than 10 minutes for WBBQ/Augusta,Ga (425 miles) to fade in for a brief time. Knoxville on 107.7 was a regular at 225 miles. Class A's from Bowling Green,OH & even Grundy,VA on 97.7 weren't uncommon several times a year. WBWC, Elyria,OH's 10 watt came in once at over 200 miles. 10 years later here in south central Indiana, there were still some great "clear" channels...96.3 always had St Louis, Chicago, Detroit and Murfreesboro,TN available. 101.1 had Hazard,KY, Russellville,KY, St Louis, Chicago and Detroit always there for the pickin'. Now, 96.3 has two class A's within 40 miles of me. Today, my most distant "regular" is Hazard,KY on 101.1 at 220 miles.

There's a proposal being floated to place gobs of Low Power FM's in the spectrum currently used by channel's 5 & 6. As a DXer, I'd love to see that happen. That would bring back...if only for a while...the relatively clear dial I enjoyed in my high school days.
 
I remember those times well. From the Celina, OH area even without the best equipment and antennas most of the Detroit signals would make it in often (WOMC, WJZZ, WNIC, WGPR, etc) as well as the powerhouse WJFM, class As like WUFM (I think) on 96.7 from Albion MI, and one from Western PA I don't recall who though. "Double Q" on 98.1 was a frequent visitor with no Defiance there, and it was pretty easy to hear most of the Cincy FMs. Connect a reciever to cable and you had a couple hundred foot DX tower! Those were the days.
 
robmadden1 said:
I was getting all this on a indoor antenna, this one from Radio Shack: http://www.radioshack.com/product/i...057.2032187.2032189.2032204&parentPage=family
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That's pretty decent stuff for an indoor antenna. Any chance of getting an outdoor directional antenna on FM or TV? The interest you have would be well served by such an addition. I grew up in College Hill & had a lot of great DX experiences there, even though I was 4 blocks from WAKW. If you're in an apartment where no outdoor antenna is possible and the future has plans for a house, look in areas where the ground is high and the farther away from powerful FM stations the better. In Cincinnati, I often had stations showing up at spots on the dial where they shouldn't due to overload from all the strong signals when I aimed the antenna downtown. Here, there's one 50KW station (WKKG 101.5) within 12 miles and two 6KW stations and WRZQ/QMIX 107.3 (where I've been the engineer since 1981) is 14 miles. Even though I can stand on the ground & see the towers of all of those stations, no overload. You'll see a pretty good advantage if you can put 10 or miles between yourself and the "big boy" FM stations.
 
Can't use outdoor antenna live in a condo.. I even one time picked up cleveland's WMMS playing nomore mister nice guy for 30 seconds last yr here in Delhi.
 
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