Have you noticed that, during AM drive in Boston, there are two Jeffs doing political talk. If you look at the front of your AM radio, the Jeff on the left (Santos, 1510) is to the right of the Jeff on the right (Katz 1200). Back in the '60s, there was a pop-folk song about a musical group with a similar situation. The lyric went something like, "the guy in the middle is on the right and the guy on the right is on the left." Somebody who reads this is likely to be able to remember the name of the song and the name of the group that recorded it. An accurate quotation of the lyric would also be welcome.
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Two Jeffs; no waiting
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It was Johnny Cash and I have it on a best of 2 CD set
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnnycash/theoneontherightisontheleft.html
It describes how a fight breaks out between the members, and Johnny suggests
"Don't go mixin' politics with the folk songs of our land...
And if you have political convictions keep them to yourself"
Of course folk singers like Phil Ochs ("Here's To The State of Mississippi", "Love Me I'm a Liberal",
Pete Seeger ("Waist Deep in the Big Muddy"), an anti-Vietnam War song that caused controversy when he performed it on the Smothers Brothers show), and Bob Dylan ("The Times They Are a-Changin'")
would disagree.
Recently on my blues show I played a "jug band" version of an old union song,
"Which Side Are You On?" which goes back to the days of coal mine strikes etc. The revised lyrics spoke of "scoundrels in the White House"--yes, it was recorded before the current administration...circa 2007-08, I think.
As for being on the left and right, conservatives rule on the left side of AM at 680 while
the liberals are on the right side at 1510. However on the FM dial, of course, both NPR
affiliates are "on the left"
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnnycash/theoneontherightisontheleft.html
It describes how a fight breaks out between the members, and Johnny suggests
"Don't go mixin' politics with the folk songs of our land...
And if you have political convictions keep them to yourself"
Of course folk singers like Phil Ochs ("Here's To The State of Mississippi", "Love Me I'm a Liberal",
Pete Seeger ("Waist Deep in the Big Muddy"), an anti-Vietnam War song that caused controversy when he performed it on the Smothers Brothers show), and Bob Dylan ("The Times They Are a-Changin'")
would disagree.
Recently on my blues show I played a "jug band" version of an old union song,
"Which Side Are You On?" which goes back to the days of coal mine strikes etc. The revised lyrics spoke of "scoundrels in the White House"--yes, it was recorded before the current administration...circa 2007-08, I think.
As for being on the left and right, conservatives rule on the left side of AM at 680 while
the liberals are on the right side at 1510. However on the FM dial, of course, both NPR
affiliates are "on the left"
A year or two ago, KMOX in St. Louis had a late evening thing going with two hosts/djs doing a two man show with a lot of talk. Both guys had John for a first name. Thus we had the listening convenience of:
Two JOHNS, No Waiting.
Two JOHNS, No Waiting.
raccoonradio said:It was Johnny Cash and I have it on a best of 2 CD set
As for being on the left and right, conservatives rule on the left side of AM at 680 while
the liberals are on the right side at 1510. However on the FM dial, of course, both NPR
affiliates are "on the left"
And WTKK 96.9 is a little to the left of the center of the FM dial (97.9 or 98.0 depending on how you figure it) but is also decidedly right of center politically, though maybe not quite as far right as WRKO or WXKS.
However, regardless of what you righties say, I think NPR is squarely in the center, which is not good enough for the congressional Republicans, who are determined to cut off all government funding of public broadcasting.
Though with TV and radio alike, there's news coverage and there's talk shows, and diff. people will say that they lean certain ways in each. MSNBC was leaning left as much as Fox News (opinion shows certainly) was leaning right (the latest big rumor btw is that Beck could be leaving FNC;
perhaps to concentrate on his radio show, though both have been suffering in ratings lately).
Would Comcast, new owners of NBC & MSNBC, hire him? Anything could happen.
perhaps to concentrate on his radio show, though both have been suffering in ratings lately).
Would Comcast, new owners of NBC & MSNBC, hire him? Anything could happen.
DanStrassberg said:
I think it would be an interesting event sometime if we could get a panel of 5 or 6 people who have conservative views and who consider NPR to be "content from the left" to create an hour long news/talk broadcast that they consider truly a "centrist" approach to editing and delivery. Do that for three or four days in a row. Distribute it on closed circuit or via podcast or something. That process would be a great learning experience for everyone involved... both the people on the Right having to make the decisions while sifting through the content, and those of us who think we know where the middle is but maybe have our own issues to deal with in sifting through content.
If we are taking bets, my money says the dividing line between NPR and "Juried Center" is paper thin.
At least one talk host claims to be centrist but he isn't exactly a household name (WNSH had him briefly). Alan Nathan calls himself "the militant moderate" and says "we want the Democrats out of our wallets, the Republicans out of our bedrooms, and both away from our first and second amendment rights"). Again, he isn't burning up the airwaves. Some hosts like Dennis Miller can be a bit of both: left ("I don't mind if Larry and Steve get married...") and right
("...but I would hope their wedding isn't firebombed by an Islamofascist")
http://alannathan.com/
(Nathan's site btw mentions the "Bible thumping right" but I can think of at least two conservative figures who are atheists: Christopher Hitchens and Avi Nelson--at least I think
Avi is)
Centrists are looked down upon; just this morning I heard Ingraham mention "the
milquetoast middle".
A few years ago I believe Morning Edition on NPR tried a segment --seven minutes long, once a week--profiling conservatives. They got howls of protest from their core audience...
Seven...minutes...long.
I don't think Harry Shearer's satire show Le Show is on in Boston but you can hear it on its site, I think, and it's def. from the left. As far as I know NPR does not have a similar show from the right.
("...but I would hope their wedding isn't firebombed by an Islamofascist")
http://alannathan.com/
(Nathan's site btw mentions the "Bible thumping right" but I can think of at least two conservative figures who are atheists: Christopher Hitchens and Avi Nelson--at least I think
Avi is)
Centrists are looked down upon; just this morning I heard Ingraham mention "the
milquetoast middle".
A few years ago I believe Morning Edition on NPR tried a segment --seven minutes long, once a week--profiling conservatives. They got howls of protest from their core audience...
Seven...minutes...long.
I don't think Harry Shearer's satire show Le Show is on in Boston but you can hear it on its site, I think, and it's def. from the left. As far as I know NPR does not have a similar show from the right.
Goat Rodeo Cowboy said:
Don't you think that the righties would say that there was no need to manufacture a newscast that had a "juried" centrist approach? Just use Fox News. At the top and bottom of each 'cast, Fox says very clearly that their product is fair and balanced. I really believe that the majority of righties consider Fox to be fair and balanced--or maybe even somewhat left leaning. If they could put together what they themselves considered fair and balanced, it would be even further right than Fox.
Fox newcasts on 1200 are syndie by Premiere/Clear Channel (which admittedly prob leans right anyway). Fox (TV and radio alike) may be claiming that the news segments are balanced (who knows). Opinion shows are quite different. It was said Keith Olbermann hardly had any conservative voices on, and some on the right claim that in terms of show guests, "Fox News has more liberals than the other, left-leaning, channels have conservatives". Some on the right say that Fox News hosts like Shep Smith lean left, and more than a few on the right do not consider Bill O'Reilly a true conservative. But again it all depends where you are on the political spectrum; John McCain was considered right-wing by those on the left; yet those on the right call him "Republican in Name Only" and bring up the fact that John Kerry actually asked him to be his running mate in '04 (the AZ Senator politely turned down the offer)
Similarly, ask those on the far right what they think of Scott Brown--the "RINO" label gets brought up again, esp. considering his recent votes (like repealing don't ask don't tell). They weren't listening to his ads and talk show appearances before the election in which he said he would vote depending on the issue not solidly with Republicans. Many conservatives would rather ignore a candidate who is with them 70 per cent of the time and allow a liberal Dem. to win instead...If anything, MA Republican pols like Ed Brooke, Scott Brown, Bill Weld,
Paul Cellucci, etc. would be considered "liberals" in other states.
Similarly, ask those on the far right what they think of Scott Brown--the "RINO" label gets brought up again, esp. considering his recent votes (like repealing don't ask don't tell). They weren't listening to his ads and talk show appearances before the election in which he said he would vote depending on the issue not solidly with Republicans. Many conservatives would rather ignore a candidate who is with them 70 per cent of the time and allow a liberal Dem. to win instead...If anything, MA Republican pols like Ed Brooke, Scott Brown, Bill Weld,
Paul Cellucci, etc. would be considered "liberals" in other states.
Which is why Weld couldn't get appointed Ambassador to Mexico, and Romney is (thank God) unelectable at the national level.
Cellucci's appointment to the Canadian position was a favor to Andy Card.
Cellucci's appointment to the Canadian position was a favor to Andy Card.
LOLDanStrassberg said:
Wondering if someday the idea of a morning show with "one on the left, one on the right"
(remember Clapprood and Whitley?) might develop: "The Two Jeffs (Katz and Santos)"*
*--or how about The Two Millers (Stephanie and Dennis) or
The Two Schulzes (Ed, and occasional Savage fill in Dwight Schulz (sp? Schultz?) of A Team fame)
(remember Clapprood and Whitley?) might develop: "The Two Jeffs (Katz and Santos)"*
*--or how about The Two Millers (Stephanie and Dennis) or
The Two Schulzes (Ed, and occasional Savage fill in Dwight Schulz (sp? Schultz?) of A Team fame)
Cap-n Spackle said:
Thank you for helping me make my point!
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Over the weekend, I watched the Janet Wu on the channels 41/42 newscast, and the Janet Wu at channel 20 interviewing Globe political cartoonist Dan Wasserman. During this interview broadcast yesterday (03/6) there was a quiz about politics. WOULD THIS HAVE BEEN A WASSERMAN TEST? Anyway, after being bombarded with Jan Wus, I was getting Wuzy.
Very funny indeed! Well certainly there are "the name's the same" people around; someone at my cartoon convention is Tom Brady; when I was a news intern at WFNX I found they had a Gene Kelly working for them etc. (And Donna mentioned, when I interviewed her yesterday,
the "Bob Kennedy, no relation" that worked for WBZ.)
And Gene Burns (and later Severin) had a producer named Jimmy Carter. (And there's a comedian, and a blues singer, who share my name: Bob Nelson. Fairly common name.)
the "Bob Kennedy, no relation" that worked for WBZ.)
And Gene Burns (and later Severin) had a producer named Jimmy Carter. (And there's a comedian, and a blues singer, who share my name: Bob Nelson. Fairly common name.)
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