Two New Translators in Miami

[Roger Wilco]

Wzpp-lp 103.9

Wzop-lp 92.7

Wqnb-lp 103.1

Google it all for yourself and draw your own conclusions. Google "FCC Revokes Washington DC LPFM WOOK-LP" for their "intent to deceive" as an example, and you decide. Not alleging or acusing anything

LPFM rules have loopholes and a non-profit or church can get creative with shells and franchises to work around the rules of only one LPFM allowed per applicant.

---- Wzpp-lp 103.9 Broward Jewish Alliance, Inc in Hollywood seemed odd to me after listening to it, like a previous posted stated. There is nothing "jewish" about it. I can see the word "Jewish" getting one preference for a license, being led to believe it will provide Jewish programming.

Google "WZZP-LP Facebook" and its full of links on the FB page that are not Jewish, but Carribean Reggae oriented. The FB page name is different. It's "WZDB 103.1 HD Miami South Beach, Global HLWD up to NO Good, and it has a link to a website wdbn.com. I can't find any information they "legally" changed the call letters to WDBN or WZDB. Weird.

Wzpp-lp 103.9 Channel 208 is listed as owned by "Broward Jewish Alliance" but there is nothing online indicating what this non-profit does, has no web presence. Corporate paper that are public and on-line show it as owned by "Reuben Rogatinsky" of Hollywood.

---- Wzop-lp 92.7 Channel 224 (not on the air) is owned by non-profit "Hollywood Brothers Helping Others under the name of "Benjamin Rogatinsky." Look at them online, it seems they are an organization that "assists kids in third world countries." (Caribbean?) Are they related and do they have two stations under ownership with Wzzp-lp 103.9 and Wzop-lp 92.7?

---- Wqnb-lp 103.1 calling itself "the Grind." Google "WQNB-LP" and "Beware, Inc." On a Facebook page for "Beware, Inc." its an organization based in North Carolina that helps kids with Austim, and is connected to a church, Grice Ministries.

What is of concern is the negative comments from posters on the Facebook page of allegations that Beware, Inc's owner is involved with N A M B L A?! There are comments that the founder of Grice Ministries and Beware, Inc is an alleged p e d o p h i l e?! There is a screenshot of an old Facebook post (reposted by someone) of the founder confessing his love for 13 year old boy, that age is only a number, and one day he (the founder), is going to marry him (the 13 year old boy).

Just info online that anyone can find and read. Not alleging or accusing anything.

 

[Ai4i]

We are into July, and still no W235CJ/270.

I hope Google Translate was not too far off, I just asked this question on the WOCN website:
"¿Cuando el traductor está en el centro de Miami espera que sea el?"

 

[davideduardo]

We are into July, and still no W235CJ/270.

I hope Google Translate was not too far off, I just asked this question on the WOCN website:
"¿Cuando el traductor está en el centro de Miami espera que sea el?"

That translation makes absolutely no sense at all.

In the US, a translator is a "translator". No translation, in other words. "Traductor" is a person who translates from one language to another, and has nothing to do with radio.

¿Cuándo va a comenzar a funcionar la retransmisora en FM en el centro de Miami de WOCN? might get a response.

 

[Ai4i]

To the average person, a translator has nothing to do with radio either.
This is not the first time that GT has scrod me over...LOL.
Someone might figure it out by the title I used, either "FM 101.9" or "101.9 FM"!

 

[Ai4i]

That translation makes absolutely no sense at all.

They never replied, but I keep checking 101.9.
Why do these things take so loooong?

 

[Ai4i]

WKAT has applied to move W267BW from Sebring to downtown Miami and up to channel 272.
It is proposed to be very directional away from the north and north-northeast
and to be co-located with WCMQ, WRMA, W228BY, and W235CJ (ch. 270).
Who would they be protecting with that sharp pattern, WMBX is way too far north to concern them?

 

[Ai4i]

The reason that W267BW is proposed to be so directional is likely due to a CP for WEXI-LP in Hallandale.

 

[Ai4i]

I wonder if WEXI-LP could sign a contract with WKAT that in exchange for canceling WEXI's CP and doubling W267BW's coverage area,
they would get a small number of hours each day on WKAT and any translators so long as W267BW exists as a WKAT property,
plus perpetual use of any HD-2 signals, which could be used to feed any future WEXI properties?
It seems that all parties would benefit except that WKAT might require unacceptable programming restrictions on what WEXI could do.

 

[Ai4i]

Barry University has applied to have the third college station in Dade county with WBUJ-LP on 99½ in Miami Shores.
CP expiration date is June 17, 2018

 

[Radio Scoundrel]

I'm a big fan of college and universities receiving translator permits for their campus stations, more so than non-profit religious/foreign language stations, because of the education benefits to the students infected with a love of radio, so best of lucky to Barry. I think its important for every marketing to have at least one, or two, college rock radio stations, and that you can actually hear them (as opposed to close campus or cable FM situations). It's good for the student moral that the station has an actual footprint.

WRGP "Radiate 88" (88.1) at Florida International University has two translators at 95.3 and 96.9 themselves at 70-99 watts. What's interesting is looking at Rec Network's page for WRGP and seeing that list of 23 translators between 92.7 to 107.9 between 20 to 40 watts (I am guessing they applied for all them to see what they got -- which is only two).

Good sounding station, by the way, and you can listen to WRGP online as well (wikipedia).

I'd also like to see more community/eclectic/variety stations like Shake 108 in South Florida where ex/retired radio people or people with no previous radio experience can volunteer. That's hard to do when they're all religious talk and Caribbean and/or Creole based, which doesn't lend much opportunities to the community at large to volunteer for a LPFM.

 

[davideduardo]

I think its important for every marketing to have at least one, or two, college rock radio stations

Why just rock? Rock is no longer the preferred music genre among college students.

 

[itsTheRolyPoly]

Why just rock? Rock is no longer the preferred music genre among college students.

I'm a college student who listens to EDM, not Rock.

So no to college rock or even college radio stations at all! I'm biased because none here deliver EDM at all.

 

[The Rimshot]

Why just rock? Rock is no longer the preferred music genre among college students.

What is the preferred music genre among college students?

 

[davideduardo]

What is the preferred music genre among college students?

It's a fragmented field. If you are looking at Miami, it is definitely rhythmic-related. Everything from hip-hop to EDM to reggaetón to urban.

The leading 18-24 stations in Miami are, in August book order, WMIB, WEDR, WLYF, WHYI, WPOW, WFLC, WKIS, WFEZ, WXDJ.

Not a single rock station among them.

 

[Ai4i]

The leading 18-24 stations in Miami are, in August book order,
WMIB, WEDR, WLYF, WHYI, WPOW, WFLC, WKIS, WFEZ, WXDJ.
Not a single rock station among them.

The first Spanish station that young adults listen to in a market with such a high percentage of Hispanics is only here,
behind a country station and then the one that their grandparents force upon them when come over to they visit?

 

[davideduardo]

The first Spanish station that young adults listen to in a market with such a high percentage of Hispanics is only behind a country station and then the one that their grandparents force upon them when come over to they visit?

None of the Spanish Language stations target 18-24. That is not a "buy" demo for Hispanic media buys in that market. In 25-54, there are four Spanish language stations in the top 10.

Country is a very logical 18-24 participant, and the AC stations get too much one-hour-and-over listening in the demo for it to be accidental.

 

[Radio Scoundrel]

W288DD has been on the air lately but with only a stereo pilot tone.
A translator of WMGE, I assume they will translate WREH.
They are side-mounted on channel four's old tower in the trailer park.

W235CJ will translate WOCN.
It seems that "moving" from 94.9 in Orlantdo to 101.9 in Miami will be quite a move.
They will be on a skyscraper in downtown Miami.

Getting back to the original topic and intent of the thread, that is, new translators, and the rules and regs of them, and not programming issues and formats, as started by the above, great post/poster who always gives us insightful reads.

Reach (Calvary Chapel) who after selling Reach FM, is unloading all their translators, sold another translator; 94.5 W233AP Oakland Park to Edgewater Broadcasting for $50,000 (it was on a stations sales list of another site; can't post that link here). You can read their mission statement on the website link, Basically, in March of 2003, Edgewater Broadcasting filed approximately 1700 applications for FM translators across the country and was granted 484 construction permits. Edgewater is a religious based broadcaster who purchases translators and transfer them to other broadcast entities, according their website.

Reach's old 94.5 will carry the religion format from 89.1 WLOG Markleysburg PA in South Florida (the Radio Locator link shows a list of 24 translators, some as low at 10 watts). WLOG (Wikipedia) shows they have a "network" of seven translators (now eight with 94.5 Oakland Park added). They are actually, per their website for Free Form Radio FM, on 40 stations (a mix of translators and full service stations). Also see WLOG Rec Networks.

From what I have read, translators have to be local to the station they are translating, right? (Not my opinion, but my understanding, as I have seen this mentioned on two radio message boards and several industry websites, and LPFM blogs that chat about translators as well). So, how can a station in Pennsylvania be "translated" into South Florida?

I seen in old threads on two boards, the talk about the three 93.5 frequencies. Someone asked: Why can't 93.5 The Bar be carried on the 93.5 Bull Fort Lauderdale/Broward and the 93.5 Evolution Miami Dade translator? Now, lets forget (for sake of argument) that IHeartMedia isn't selling them, would never sell them, and would never create a local competitor and make JVC Broadcasting dominate in the market.

Let's say JVC, for arguements sake, could get the other two 93.5s. It would be useless, because, JVC 93.5 The Bar could not be translated onto the Broward and Miami Dade translators because they are not local to the primary station in Palm Beach county; JVC would need to purchase full service, primary stations, put programming on those, then translate those stations, is my understanding.

So, why can WLOG translate out of state. Is it a non-commerical/non-profit, 501 3C issue vs. commercial broadcaster, thus, they are allowed to create these mini networks? I understand that's what it is, but, just trying to encourage some participation on the thread with other insights.

By the way. Great Translator, and LPFM chatter mostly, on What Went Wrong Here. ai4i is very diligent and efficient on keeping up and catching, and letting us all know about these translators popping up and what they're up to. The thread just clears up the confusions regarding two non-profits having CPs for the same translators; they are allow to timeshare and divide the programs and/or years on a license. I was not aware of the "timesharing" provisions for LPFMs. Kudos to posters on b-turner and TheBigA on clarify that fact.

 

[Ai4i]

From what I have read, translators have to be local to the station they are translating, right?
...So, how can a station in Pennsylvania be "translated" into South Florida?

A translator's coverage must lie fully within that of the commercial station they are translating,
but this does not apply to non-coms; they can be anywhere.
I do not listen to Reach,
but I would assume that their HD subchannels of commercial stations,
and all translators thereof, which reside above channel twenty,
can broadcast full commercials including those screaming calls to action,
whereas neither WREH on channel thirteen nor any of its translators can.
It can be extremely dificult to tell the difference on these stations that love to "bend" that line
just a little bit, and then just a little bit more.

 

[Ai4i]

That is not a "buy" demo for Hispanic media buys in that market.

I worked so hard to find what I thought was the perfect "here" link.
This being a radio discussion board and not a music discussion board,
perhaps I should have linked to Poundridge's WVWA.

 

[Ai4i]

I was driving around in Broward county the other night and noticed that two unlikely stations have verrrrry similar footprints.
So I looked them up and they do
3Kw/30m WKPX and WSBR's 250w/119m W245BC in a practical sence, fade out at nearly the same places.
Their height/power/footprint ratios are very similar.