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lionbk
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Just wonder with the two New York teams and back when you had the two teams in LA. If both teams every play at the same time and not playing each other and How does that all work out with TV.
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Joseph_Gallant
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I don't think that the two NFL teams in New York since 1970 (and the two teams in Los Angeles during the 1980's and 1990's) ever played at the same time.
Their schedules were (almost?) always dovetailed, so that they would not both be playing at the same time.
Their schedules were (almost?) always dovetailed, so that they would not both be playing at the same time.
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KML0224
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Don't forget about San Francisco and Oakland!
> I don't think that the two NFL teams in New York since 1970
> (and the two teams in Los Angeles during the 1980's and
> 1990's) ever played at the same time.
>
> Their schedules were (almost?) always dovetailed, so that
> they would not both be playing at the same time.
I seem to remember a week, and this was maybe in 1991, where the Raiders and Rams were at home at the same time, and both were on NBC! It was something like Kansas City-Rams and ??? at Raiders. I thought it was odd then. Anyone else remember this or can corroborate this?
> (and the two teams in Los Angeles during the 1980's and
> 1990's) ever played at the same time.
>
> Their schedules were (almost?) always dovetailed, so that
> they would not both be playing at the same time.
I seem to remember a week, and this was maybe in 1991, where the Raiders and Rams were at home at the same time, and both were on NBC! It was something like Kansas City-Rams and ??? at Raiders. I thought it was odd then. Anyone else remember this or can corroborate this?
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Joseph_Gallant
Guest
Schmave recalls:
> I seem to remember a week, and this was maybe in 1991, where
> the Raiders and Rams (both then in Los Angeles) were at home
> at the same time, and both were on NBC! It was something
> like Kansas City-Rams and ??? at Raiders. I thought it was
> odd then. Anyone else remember this or can corroborate this?
I haven't gone completely through Shrp Sports.com's NFL archives, but I would think that if NBC had both games, and both sold-out, one of them (maybe the Rams??) was probably broadcast in Los Angeles on an independent station.
Of course, if one of the two games sold out and the other didn't, the game that did sell-out would have been on KNBC-4, and the game that didn't sell-out had to be blacked-out.
> I seem to remember a week, and this was maybe in 1991, where
> the Raiders and Rams (both then in Los Angeles) were at home
> at the same time, and both were on NBC! It was something
> like Kansas City-Rams and ??? at Raiders. I thought it was
> odd then. Anyone else remember this or can corroborate this?
I haven't gone completely through Shrp Sports.com's NFL archives, but I would think that if NBC had both games, and both sold-out, one of them (maybe the Rams??) was probably broadcast in Los Angeles on an independent station.
Of course, if one of the two games sold out and the other didn't, the game that did sell-out would have been on KNBC-4, and the game that didn't sell-out had to be blacked-out.
> I seem to remember a week, and this was maybe in 1991, where
> the Raiders and Rams were at home at the same time, and both
> were on NBC! It was something like Kansas City-Rams and ???
> at Raiders. I thought it was odd then. Anyone else remember
> this or can corroborate this?
>
IIRC, CBS carried NFC home games, and NBC carried AFC home games. For both of them to be on NBC, the Rams would have to have played in KC.
Right???
> the Raiders and Rams were at home at the same time, and both
> were on NBC! It was something like Kansas City-Rams and ???
> at Raiders. I thought it was odd then. Anyone else remember
> this or can corroborate this?
>
IIRC, CBS carried NFC home games, and NBC carried AFC home games. For both of them to be on NBC, the Rams would have to have played in KC.
Right???
> > I seem to remember a week, and this was maybe in 1991,
> where
> > the Raiders and Rams were at home at the same time, and
> both
> > were on NBC! It was something like Kansas City-Rams and
> ???
> > at Raiders. I thought it was odd then. Anyone else
> remember
> > this or can corroborate this?
> >
>
> IIRC, CBS carried NFC home games, and NBC carried AFC home
> games. For both of them to be on NBC, the Rams would have to
> have played in KC.
>
> Right???
>
(John McLaughlin)WRRRONG!(/John McLaughlin)
CBS at the time carried NFC road games, and NBC carried AFC road games. That would mean an AFC team would have to be at Anaheim.
The network carrying the game (except for Sunday/Monday nights) is decided by the conference of the road team; this goes back to the days when all home games were blacked out. The only way an NFC (Fox) city sees its team on CBS is if an AFC team is in town.
> where
> > the Raiders and Rams were at home at the same time, and
> both
> > were on NBC! It was something like Kansas City-Rams and
> ???
> > at Raiders. I thought it was odd then. Anyone else
> remember
> > this or can corroborate this?
> >
>
> IIRC, CBS carried NFC home games, and NBC carried AFC home
> games. For both of them to be on NBC, the Rams would have to
> have played in KC.
>
> Right???
>
(John McLaughlin)WRRRONG!(/John McLaughlin)
CBS at the time carried NFC road games, and NBC carried AFC road games. That would mean an AFC team would have to be at Anaheim.
The network carrying the game (except for Sunday/Monday nights) is decided by the conference of the road team; this goes back to the days when all home games were blacked out. The only way an NFC (Fox) city sees its team on CBS is if an AFC team is in town.
> I seem to remember a week, and this was maybe in 1991, where
> the Raiders and Rams were at home at the same time, and both
> were on NBC! It was something like Kansas City-Rams and ???
> at Raiders. I thought it was odd then. Anyone else remember
> this or can corroborate this?
>
This happened on a couple of occasions. Neither team sold out their games very often, so there probably wasn't a TV conflict.
> the Raiders and Rams were at home at the same time, and both
> were on NBC! It was something like Kansas City-Rams and ???
> at Raiders. I thought it was odd then. Anyone else remember
> this or can corroborate this?
>
This happened on a couple of occasions. Neither team sold out their games very often, so there probably wasn't a TV conflict.
> Just wonder with the two New York teams and back when you
> had the two teams in LA. If both teams every play at the
> same time and not playing each other and How does that all
> work out with TV.
>
Currently, this only affects New York (Giants & Jets) and San Francisco (49ers and Oakland Raiders).
The NFL NEVER has the Giants and Jets playing at the same time. It's fun when a random Giant or Jet game against a division rival gets played in the late afternoon slot, just because the other New York team was scheduled for 1:00. Between bye weeks and the ability to schedule one team for Sunday night or Monday (or Saturday late in the season), this situation probably happens 3-4 times tops a season.
Tough for me to know what happens with 49ers and Raiders, given my perch on the East Coast. Anyone who wants to fill in with more info there - be my guest.
I also wanted to include Redskins and Ravens in the discussion, because they will from time to time play games at the same time. They're separate TV markets, though, maybe even the closest distance between two teams that don't play in the same market.
> had the two teams in LA. If both teams every play at the
> same time and not playing each other and How does that all
> work out with TV.
>
Currently, this only affects New York (Giants & Jets) and San Francisco (49ers and Oakland Raiders).
The NFL NEVER has the Giants and Jets playing at the same time. It's fun when a random Giant or Jet game against a division rival gets played in the late afternoon slot, just because the other New York team was scheduled for 1:00. Between bye weeks and the ability to schedule one team for Sunday night or Monday (or Saturday late in the season), this situation probably happens 3-4 times tops a season.
Tough for me to know what happens with 49ers and Raiders, given my perch on the East Coast. Anyone who wants to fill in with more info there - be my guest.
I also wanted to include Redskins and Ravens in the discussion, because they will from time to time play games at the same time. They're separate TV markets, though, maybe even the closest distance between two teams that don't play in the same market.
>
> I also wanted to include Redskins and Ravens in the
> discussion, because they will from time to time play games
> at the same time. They're separate TV markets, though,
> maybe even the closest distance between two teams that don't
> play in the same market.
>
FedEx Field and M&T Bank Stadium are 28 miles apart as the crow (or Raven or Redskin arrow) flies. RFK Stadium and the former site of Memorial Stadium are 36 miles apart in a straight line. All that according to my Expedia 98 CD.
ixnay
> I also wanted to include Redskins and Ravens in the
> discussion, because they will from time to time play games
> at the same time. They're separate TV markets, though,
> maybe even the closest distance between two teams that don't
> play in the same market.
>
FedEx Field and M&T Bank Stadium are 28 miles apart as the crow (or Raven or Redskin arrow) flies. RFK Stadium and the former site of Memorial Stadium are 36 miles apart in a straight line. All that according to my Expedia 98 CD.
ixnay
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