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Tyler-Longview DMA Changes UPN/WB

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gbranch

There are some big changes coming to the Tyler-Longview airwaves beginning Jan. 1.

As posted earlier UPN moves to a digital subchannel of KYTX-DT. KYTX-UP 19.2

My sources at KFXK have informed me that, on Jan 1, current UPN affiliate KCEB-54 will become a WB affiliate. WB is currently only available in the market via cable station KWTL.

Also according to my source, current UPN translators KLPN-58 and KTPN-48 will become independent, apparently no longer retransmitting channel 54. This is a good move, since 58 and 48 are redundant and really provide no additional coverage to 54.

Further research on the FCC website indicates that the calls KWTL are available, so I would expect a change of calls from KCEB to KWTL sometime in the near future, possibly along with a move to channel 38
 
I guess Lubbock is indeed not the only market getting a WB...

> There are some big changes coming to the Tyler-Longview
> airwaves beginning Jan. 1.
>
> As posted earlier UPN moves to a digital subchannel of
> KYTX-DT. KYTX-UP 19.2
>
> My sources at KFXK have informed me that, on Jan 1, current
> UPN affiliate KCEB-54 will become a WB affiliate. WB is
> currently only available in the market via cable station
> KWTL.
>
> Also according to my source, current UPN translators KLPN-58
> and KTPN-48 will become independent, apparently no longer
> retransmitting channel 54. This is a good move, since 58 and
> 48 are redundant and really provide no additional coverage
> to 54.
>
> Further research on the FCC website indicates that the calls
> KWTL are available, so I would expect a change of calls
> from KCEB to KWTL sometime in the near future, possibly
> along with a move to channel 38
>
 
> I guess Lubbock is indeed not the only market getting a
> WB...

The WB has been looking at moving its WB100+ channel beyond cable only channels. Almost every new WB over-the-air affiliate outside the top 100 markets has been an over-the-air station picking up the previously cable-only WB100+ feed. KMTF 10 Helena, KWSD 36 Sioux Falls, KREN 27 Reno, KPIF 15 Pocatello/Idaho Falls, KBCA 41 Alexandria, and it would appear KWBZ-TV 22 Lubbock and KCEB 54 Tyler/Longview (if "KWTL" moves there) all carry the localized WB100+ feed.

I assume forthcoming new full-power KLWB Lafayette LA will fall in the same category since the WB100+ Lafayette cable channel is branded as "KLWB."

Moving it over the air has advantages -- it ensures must-carry in all systems (in some markets the WB100+ feed is only one some systems) and ensures a WB local channel if Dish Network or DirecTV offer service in the market.

The online titantv.com TV listings show KCEB as an independent 1/2 -- carrying court shows between 7-9PM. So, if it is headed to the WB, it hasn't made it out to the online TV guides, yet.



>
> > There are some big changes coming to the Tyler-Longview
> > airwaves beginning Jan. 1.
> >
> > As posted earlier UPN moves to a digital subchannel of
> > KYTX-DT. KYTX-UP 19.2
> >
> > My sources at KFXK have informed me that, on Jan 1,
> current
> > UPN affiliate KCEB-54 will become a WB affiliate. WB is
> > currently only available in the market via cable station
> > KWTL.
> >
> > Also according to my source, current UPN translators
> KLPN-58
> > and KTPN-48 will become independent, apparently no longer
> > retransmitting channel 54. This is a good move, since 58
> and
> > 48 are redundant and really provide no additional coverage
>
> > to 54.
> >
> > Further research on the FCC website indicates that the
> calls
> > KWTL are available, so I would expect a change of calls
> > from KCEB to KWTL sometime in the near future, possibly
> > along with a move to channel 38
> >
>
 
WB100+ ?

What in the world is WB100+?

> > I guess Lubbock is indeed not the only market getting a
> > WB...
>
> The WB has been looking at moving its WB100+ channel beyond
> cable only channels. Almost every new WB over-the-air
> affiliate outside the top 100 markets has been an
> over-the-air station picking up the previously cable-only
> WB100+ feed. KMTF 10 Helena, KWSD 36 Sioux Falls, KREN 27
> Reno, KPIF 15 Pocatello/Idaho Falls, KBCA 41 Alexandria, and
> it would appear KWBZ-TV 22 Lubbock and KCEB 54
> Tyler/Longview (if "KWTL" moves there) all carry the
> localized WB100+ feed.
>
> I assume forthcoming new full-power KLWB Lafayette LA will
> fall in the same category since the WB100+ Lafayette cable
> channel is branded as "KLWB."
>
> Moving it over the air has advantages -- it ensures
> must-carry in all systems (in some markets the WB100+ feed
> is only one some systems) and ensures a WB local channel if
> Dish Network or DirecTV offer service in the market.
>
> The online titantv.com TV listings show KCEB as an
> independent 1/2 -- carrying court shows between 7-9PM. So,
> if it is headed to the WB, it hasn't made it out to the
> online TV guides, yet.
>
>
>
> >
> > > There are some big changes coming to the Tyler-Longview
> > > airwaves beginning Jan. 1.
> > >
> > > As posted earlier UPN moves to a digital subchannel of
> > > KYTX-DT. KYTX-UP 19.2
> > >
> > > My sources at KFXK have informed me that, on Jan 1,
> > current
> > > UPN affiliate KCEB-54 will become a WB affiliate. WB is
> > > currently only available in the market via cable station
>
> > > KWTL.
> > >
> > > Also according to my source, current UPN translators
> > KLPN-58
> > > and KTPN-48 will become independent, apparently no
> longer
> > > retransmitting channel 54. This is a good move, since 58
>
> > and
> > > 48 are redundant and really provide no additional
> coverage
> >
> > > to 54.
> > >
> > > Further research on the FCC website indicates that the
> > calls
> > > KWTL are available, so I would expect a change of calls
>
> > > from KCEB to KWTL sometime in the near future, possibly
> > > along with a move to channel 38
> > >
> >
>
 
Re: WB100+ ?

> What in the world is WB100+?

When the WB first launched, it and UPN had problems finding affiliates since most markets outside the top 100 didn't have free, unaffiliated stations operating to affiliate with. UPN mostly just went after secondary affiliations (i.e. the local Fox affiliate would run some UPN shows on weekends or overnight). Thr WB used superstation WGN to clear the nation (WGN owner Tribune owned 25% of the network).

WB affiliates weren't thrilled with having WGN on cable carrying the same programming in their market and the WB wasn't thrilled with it since the WB programming aired before prime time in the west coast (5-7PM PT on WGN), so the WB decided to create a cable channel that would be branded with faux calls to create a local-looking affiliate in markets without an over-the-air affiliate. In most cases, it partnered with a local TV station to sell ad time on it. When that was launched, WGN's superstation feed ceased carrying WB shows (though WGN-TV 9 Chicago remained a WB affiliate).

If you do a google search on "WB100+" you'll see various references to it. It essentially buys syndicated programming for outside the WB prime time like one giant group owner. So, all of them have the same schedule with a few variations (I think, for example, in Beaumont CBS KFDM 6 was producing a 9PM newscast for the WB100+ cable station there).



> > > I guess Lubbock is indeed not the only market getting a
> > > WB...
> >
> > The WB has been looking at moving its WB100+ channel
> beyond
> > cable only channels. Almost every new WB over-the-air
> > affiliate outside the top 100 markets has been an
> > over-the-air station picking up the previously cable-only
> > WB100+ feed. KMTF 10 Helena, KWSD 36 Sioux Falls, KREN 27
>
> > Reno, KPIF 15 Pocatello/Idaho Falls, KBCA 41 Alexandria,
> and
> > it would appear KWBZ-TV 22 Lubbock and KCEB 54
> > Tyler/Longview (if "KWTL" moves there) all carry the
> > localized WB100+ feed.
> >
> > I assume forthcoming new full-power KLWB Lafayette LA will
>
> > fall in the same category since the WB100+ Lafayette cable
>
> > channel is branded as "KLWB."
> >
> > Moving it over the air has advantages -- it ensures
> > must-carry in all systems (in some markets the WB100+ feed
>
> > is only one some systems) and ensures a WB local channel
> if
> > Dish Network or DirecTV offer service in the market.
> >
> > The online titantv.com TV listings show KCEB as an
> > independent 1/2 -- carrying court shows between 7-9PM. So,
>
> > if it is headed to the WB, it hasn't made it out to the
> > online TV guides, yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > There are some big changes coming to the
> Tyler-Longview
> > > > airwaves beginning Jan. 1.
> > > >
> > > > As posted earlier UPN moves to a digital subchannel of
>
> > > > KYTX-DT. KYTX-UP 19.2
> > > >
> > > > My sources at KFXK have informed me that, on Jan 1,
> > > current
> > > > UPN affiliate KCEB-54 will become a WB affiliate. WB
> is
> > > > currently only available in the market via cable
> station
> >
> > > > KWTL.
> > > >
> > > > Also according to my source, current UPN translators
> > > KLPN-58
> > > > and KTPN-48 will become independent, apparently no
> > longer
> > > > retransmitting channel 54. This is a good move, since
> 58
> >
> > > and
> > > > 48 are redundant and really provide no additional
> > coverage
> > >
> > > > to 54.
> > > >
> > > > Further research on the FCC website indicates that the
>
> > > calls
> > > > KWTL are available, so I would expect a change of
> calls
> >
> > > > from KCEB to KWTL sometime in the near future,
> possibly
> > > > along with a move to channel 38
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
 
> The WB has been looking at moving its WB100+ channel beyond
> cable only channels. Almost every new WB over-the-air
> affiliate outside the top 100 markets has been an
> over-the-air station picking up the previously cable-only
> WB100+ feed. KMTF 10 Helena, KWSD 36 Sioux Falls, KREN 27
> Reno, KPIF 15 Pocatello/Idaho Falls, KBCA 41 Alexandria, and
> it would appear KWBZ-TV 22 Lubbock and KCEB 54
> Tyler/Longview (if "KWTL" moves there) all carry the
> localized WB100+ feed.

How localized can that feed be when broadcast stations carry it? Do they have freedom to replace a certain amount of the national feed, or are they expected to carry it 24/7?
 
Re: WB100+ ?

Ah..
So KWBZ (WB23 on Cox Cable), was really a WB100+. There was vitually nothing local about WB23, and I got the feeling that WB23 was seen in other cox markets as well. KCBD 11, the NBC affiliate was running it for a while and was even offering them on the website. Back then, it was called Z23. Then, at some point, Cox took it over. Then, RAMAR took control, and RAMAR already runs the UPN and Fox affliate. I think they were just waiting for the opportunity, since RAMAR runs several low power tv stations in Lubbock, most running shopping channels.

I get it...


> > What in the world is WB100+?
>
> When the WB first launched, it and UPN had problems finding
> affiliates since most markets outside the top 100 didn't
> have free, unaffiliated stations operating to affiliate
> with. UPN mostly just went after secondary affiliations
> (i.e. the local Fox affiliate would run some UPN shows on
> weekends or overnight). Thr WB used superstation WGN to
> clear the nation (WGN owner Tribune owned 25% of the
> network).
>
> WB affiliates weren't thrilled with having WGN on cable
> carrying the same programming in their market and the WB
> wasn't thrilled with it since the WB programming aired
> before prime time in the west coast (5-7PM PT on WGN), so
> the WB decided to create a cable channel that would be
> branded with faux calls to create a local-looking affiliate
> in markets without an over-the-air affiliate. In most
> cases, it partnered with a local TV station to sell ad time
> on it. When that was launched, WGN's superstation feed
> ceased carrying WB shows (though WGN-TV 9 Chicago remained a
> WB affiliate).
>
> If you do a google search on "WB100+" you'll see various
> references to it. It essentially buys syndicated programming
> for outside the WB prime time like one giant group owner.
> So, all of them have the same schedule with a few variations
> (I think, for example, in Beaumont CBS KFDM 6 was producing
> a 9PM newscast for the WB100+ cable station there).
>
>
>
> > > > I guess Lubbock is indeed not the only market getting
> a
> > > > WB...
> > >
> > > The WB has been looking at moving its WB100+ channel
> > beyond
> > > cable only channels. Almost every new WB over-the-air
> > > affiliate outside the top 100 markets has been an
> > > over-the-air station picking up the previously
> cable-only
> > > WB100+ feed. KMTF 10 Helena, KWSD 36 Sioux Falls, KREN
> 27
> >
> > > Reno, KPIF 15 Pocatello/Idaho Falls, KBCA 41 Alexandria,
>
> > and
> > > it would appear KWBZ-TV 22 Lubbock and KCEB 54
> > > Tyler/Longview (if "KWTL" moves there) all carry the
> > > localized WB100+ feed.
> > >
> > > I assume forthcoming new full-power KLWB Lafayette LA
> will
> >
> > > fall in the same category since the WB100+ Lafayette
> cable
> >
> > > channel is branded as "KLWB."
> > >
> > > Moving it over the air has advantages -- it ensures
> > > must-carry in all systems (in some markets the WB100+
> feed
> >
> > > is only one some systems) and ensures a WB local channel
>
> > if
> > > Dish Network or DirecTV offer service in the market.
> > >
> > > The online titantv.com TV listings show KCEB as an
> > > independent 1/2 -- carrying court shows between 7-9PM.
> So,
> >
> > > if it is headed to the WB, it hasn't made it out to the
> > > online TV guides, yet.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > There are some big changes coming to the
> > Tyler-Longview
> > > > > airwaves beginning Jan. 1.
> > > > >
> > > > > As posted earlier UPN moves to a digital subchannel
> of
> >
> > > > > KYTX-DT. KYTX-UP 19.2
> > > > >
> > > > > My sources at KFXK have informed me that, on Jan 1,
> > > > current
> > > > > UPN affiliate KCEB-54 will become a WB affiliate. WB
>
> > is
> > > > > currently only available in the market via cable
> > station
> > >
> > > > > KWTL.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also according to my source, current UPN translators
>
> > > > KLPN-58
> > > > > and KTPN-48 will become independent, apparently no
> > > longer
> > > > > retransmitting channel 54. This is a good move,
> since
> > 58
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > > 48 are redundant and really provide no additional
> > > coverage
> > > >
> > > > > to 54.
> > > > >
> > > > > Further research on the FCC website indicates that
> the
> >
> > > > calls
> > > > > KWTL are available, so I would expect a change of
> > calls
> > >
> > > > > from KCEB to KWTL sometime in the near future,
> > possibly
> > > > > along with a move to channel 38
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
 
> The WB has been looking at moving its WB100+ channel beyond
> cable only channels. Almost every new WB over-the-air
> affiliate outside the top 100 markets has been an
> over-the-air station picking up the previously cable-only
> WB100+ feed.

...

> I assume forthcoming new full-power KLWB Lafayette LA will
> fall in the same category since the WB100+ Lafayette cable
> channel is branded as "KLWB."

That's exactly what is happening. KLWB signs on January 2 relaying WB100+, but only temporarily - as is the case with KBCA in Alexandria - until a locally-programmed schedule could be built. I would imagine that the Tyler station will follow the same formula, as all three stations are co-owned (by Charles Chatelain d/b/a Dimension Broadcasting, with KBCA and KCEB being controlled by ComCorp.)

Stelly
 
All I'll say is about time.....I've never been able to handle the Tyler Morning Telegraph's logic in carrying KWTL in its listings since basically it had probably a two, maybe three city reach (Jacksonville, Tyler, and does anyone know if it's carried on Cox in Athens).

The carriage of UPN on the KYTX digital subchannel makes sense, but shuts the signal off to those of use who are sadly without DTV recievers.

Now KCEB picking up WB is even better, as I said, KWTL only had a very limited reach. But the setback to that is the fact that KCEB, despite being full power, isn't that well recieved outside of Longview. (I can't even get KFXK well....even with amplified rabbit ears.)
 
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