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drewbuddy said:
Infact, I am in the demo. That's why I have a great track record with programming CHR.
Good for you, I think everyone should "toot their own horn". My point is, if you don't like it, don't listen.
I don't like Elton John, or Phil Collins so I don't listen to KOOI. I love Rock and Roll but this market's rock station sucks so I don't listen to it. back to my other point, opinions vary. by the way I didn't ask for a resume
I don't like Elton John, or Phil Collins so I don't listen to KOOI. I love Rock and Roll but this market's rock station sucks so I don't listen to it. back to my other point, opinions vary. by the way I didn't ask for a resume
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drewbuddy said:
You're quick to imply I don't know what I'm talking about, hence my last response. My point was being, it should be listenable atleast to people with knowledge of the format, and it is not. I personally think KAFX Lufkin is much better, and is in an alot smaller market. Sad, sad.
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musicsweep said:
I agree with just about all you said, Sweep. As I said in my original post. I only had two problems with Waller. It was what I feel has been KYKX and KFRO operations and his sale of KOOI.
I do disagree with Radio not being about the DJ. It is to a certain extent. When KNUE had John Moore, Amy Austin, Gary Walker (I know he's still there) and others there, their shares were at least 15-20's. Now, with mostly syndicated and voicetracked programming, they are below 10. KYKX's shares with Larry & Lou, then Ken Curtis, Diane Day, Warren Bradley, Gary Mason, Tony McCullough and other's were at least 10's. Now, they are around 6's and sometimes lower. And the few local folks that still are lucky enough to have jobs, are not really "personalities" because they are reading liner cards and scripted material. That's not going to sell a station. It is a total package... good music, good personalities, imaging, and community involvement. It is not totally or only about the DJ, but a good DJ/Personality has a lot of pull.
I never met Dudley, so I cannot judge how he treated people. And, I applauded how he ran KOOI for years. That's why I hate that he sold it. I also have applauded him for keeping the Jacksonville and Longview studios there, when he could have moved them to Tyler. And, yes JR Curtis (may he rest in peace) never ran 95.3 FM to its full potential. I don't know why the signal struggles so. I can pick it up good in Longview and Tyler. I think going CHR was the right move. I thought going AC was a bad move, because I didn't think 95.3/102.3 could compete with KOOI, even with Moreland. And, I don't mean for my post to seem like I am picking on Dudley, especially when I was not. I was just pointing out my two beefs with him. The lack of localism is bad in every market, including Houston where I am now. There is something terribly wrong when the number one station in the market is voicetracking Afternoon Drive. What radio owners seem to forget, is that these are the public airwaves. They are licensed to serve local communities. Most radio owners, especially in small markets, seem to forget this aspect. Hence one of the biggest flaws of the Telecom Act of 1996. When companies were only allowed to own a couple of properties, they could sink more money into each station. Since they are allowed to own so many, the money is spread out and the cost cutting starts with the local product.
And I think all the stations in the market, should cover Tyler & Longview and the surrounding areas equally.
Snoman, that was a different time. Radio is no longer personality driven, just as it no longer carries episodes of the Lone Ranger. The industry changes, hence its ability to survive TV, satellite radio, CD changers and the internet.
As for the declining shares, Radio faces increased competition, not only from other stations (the FM band has grown more crowded over the past 20 years), but from the media mentioned above. It's only natural that shares would decrease.
In 1900, your only source of info was newspapers. By 1940, newspapers and radio had become commpn place. By the 50s, it was radio, TV and newspapers. Now, its radio, TV, newspapers, internet and satellite programming. Times change. IN today's market, you have to keep the music playing and minimize DJ talk unless you have a Ron Chapman, Dave Moreland or even John Moore.
As for the declining shares, Radio faces increased competition, not only from other stations (the FM band has grown more crowded over the past 20 years), but from the media mentioned above. It's only natural that shares would decrease.
In 1900, your only source of info was newspapers. By 1940, newspapers and radio had become commpn place. By the 50s, it was radio, TV and newspapers. Now, its radio, TV, newspapers, internet and satellite programming. Times change. IN today's market, you have to keep the music playing and minimize DJ talk unless you have a Ron Chapman, Dave Moreland or even John Moore.
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musicsweep said:
Hence the reason for the declining shares. Companies will just hire any Harry, Dick, or Tom to read scripted material, who has a half-way decent voice to do the limited local stuff and pump in syndicated talent with a big name or get someone who voicetracking some other stations. That's exactly why I don't listen to local radio anymore.
You can keep the music playing and have someone delivering a good pressentation. John Moore did. Probably one of the reasons for his huge success for so many years. It's also why when I worked in a Longview restaurant in the morning (so I could play radio at night ;D ), that we would put KNUE on the radio, instead of KYKX, because John played more music in the morning. You can have both entertaining, local personalities and keep the music playing. Back to KYKX, I actually like Paula Prince. She's a good personality that balances that.
You know I agree with most of what you say. You've been in the area and in the business for quite awhile, but I have to respectfully disagree with you in this area. And, I am not saying that I disagree with you about everything. You are right, times have changed, but radio has made so many drastic, unnecessary changes over the past 10-15 years that are a result of the Telecom Act of 1996, and not necessarily because of the internet, satellite radio, and HD Redio competition. It is more about the bottom line, rather than listeners wanting to hear their favorite song. If it weren't John Moore (or someone of his ilk) would be doing the morning show at KNUE, rather than Big D & Bubba (I believe that's their morning show, I apologize if that's incorrect). That is my opinion and I realize it's coming from someone who has not been in the business in awhile, but I do know the formula for success. And, it would still work, if companies wanted to really invest in their product.
Snoman, even if I were to accept your premise that personality-driven radio would get better results and drive up ratings, and more importantly, revenue, there would still be a problem. People like John Moore aren't exactly walking the streets anymore. Post a job opening on All-Access, TVandRadioJobs, or the TAB Web site, and the bulk of your replies will be recent graduates of a certain broadcast school in the DFW metroplex, most of whom have attitudes and think they know more about the business than you do. The few diamonds out there, if any, are priced out of your market.
It's better for the station to have no personalities on the station than bad personalities. Your John Moores are either locked into a long-term gig that is perfectly suited for them, or they are happily working for TMF.
It's better for the station to have no personalities on the station than bad personalities. Your John Moores are either locked into a long-term gig that is perfectly suited for them, or they are happily working for TMF.
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musicsweep said:
And what a shame, too.
I miss Apu and the Birthday Wake-Up Calls.
I was at KNUE when John, Amy, Michael Millsap, Chuck McKinley and Danny Stapleton pulled down that 21+ share book in the spring of 1995. I was a part-timer that joined the ranks during the book, but I can tell you...people enjoyed listening to all of 'em. There was just the right balance between personality and music. It was great!
I think you'd have to agree...that magic and chemistry just ain't out there anymore.
Ah, the good old days................
These conglomerates have figured out how to squeeze blood from a turnip. They've got hundreds of stations covered by a single air talent while having people just above trained monkey status babysitting the computers, monitoring the EAS RCVR and calling the CE when something local goes bump in the night.
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C414B said:musicsweep said:
And what a shame, too.
I miss Apu and the Birthday Wake-Up Calls.
I was at KNUE when John, Amy, Michael Millsap, Chuck McKinley and Danny Stapleton pulled down that 21+ share book in the spring of 1995. I was a part-timer that joined the ranks during the book, but I can tell you...people enjoyed listening to all of 'em. There was just the right balance between personality and music. It was great!
I think you'd have to agree...that magic and chemistry just ain't out there anymore.
Ah, the good old days................
These conglomerates have figured out how to squeeze blood from a turnip. They've got hundreds of stations covered by a single air talent while having people just above trained monkey status babysitting the computers, monitoring the EAS RCVR and calling the CE when something local goes bump in the night.
What.
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Shame.
Indeed. KNUE sounds worse than KYKX these days. Even Gary doesn't sound as good as he used to. He sounds very scripted (like Paul Christy/Eric Chase does here in Houston). It is a shame when corporate radio ties the hands of Personalities who actually know a thing or two about this business. :
And Sweep, you are right, most of the good ones are gone. Most of them saw the light and got out. However, there are still some pros out there that are looking for work. Our good friend Musicradio knows East Texas Radio better than most, and he's been trying to find a gig for quite awhile now. It's a shame that someone of his caliber can't find a gig.
And yes, I do agree that no personalities are better than bad ones.
ilistentotheradio said:
I never implied that you don't know what you're braggin about, hence my last response. Don't listen, I'm sure they're "tweeking". They just changed over, give'em a chance to tweek their format before you say they don't know what they're doing. Yes, KAFX is a good station, Dan is a good jock. They could do without Kidd.
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drewbuddy said:
No, they couldnt. 27.0 Share Women 18-49, 29.0 Share Women 18-34, 25.9 Share Women 25-54. You'd have to be really crazy to dump a show with those ratings. Music seems to have lost a llittle focus recently, but it's not bad. The good news is, it appears The Breeze has ad's out on All-Access. Maybe they'll find someone who actually knows what they're doing. Hope you enjoy working for Waller.
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Nope. I can gladly say I've never worked for Waller.
How can you gladly say you've never worked for someone whom you've never worked for? How do you know you wouldn't like working there? ???
I've known several people who have worked for Waller, ranging from top-rated on-air talent, to production personnel, to overnight board ops and even sales people. Most like the company and the man's vision... while admitting that there are bad days as well... which is usually the case in any working environment... as opposed to working for Russell, where every day was a bad day with the rare decent day thrown in.
I've known several people who have worked for Waller, ranging from top-rated on-air talent, to production personnel, to overnight board ops and even sales people. Most like the company and the man's vision... while admitting that there are bad days as well... which is usually the case in any working environment... as opposed to working for Russell, where every day was a bad day with the rare decent day thrown in.
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I must say, they're really bumping.... for a satellite feed. :
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drewbuddy said:
Nope. Never applied, thanks for your assumptions. My point is, I'm glad to say I don't work for a company that thinks doing CHR is throwing up mediocre music programming and imaging.
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