The general manager of ABC affiliate KLTV 7 is appearing in a new editorial attacking comments by the newest member of "The View" crew, Rosie O'Donnell. At issue is her statement that "radical Christians are as dangerous as radical Muslims" in this country. The editorial compares her to a "bully" who cries foul when she doesn't get way and makes such statements to get attention. In closing the GM urges viewers to send an e-mail ("send lots of e-mails") to ABC and demand that Rosie be shown the door.
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Tyler station livid over Rosie
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Slambang said:
And I agree with her 100% -- those who set off bombs at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics in the name of pro-life (Rudolph) and Christian versions of bin Laden (Pat Robertson) are extreme Christians in my book. And they are just as dangerous as extreme Muslims, or anyone who incites violence in the name of their religion.
Rosie is a kook - and it sounds like she's got plenty of company with the guy from East Texas.
I don't agree with Rosie at all, but ABC hired her to draw viewers to that show. I'd say she's succeeding.
If the GM in Tyler doesn't like her show, he's got the right to pull it. I doubt he will.
I don't agree with Rosie at all, but ABC hired her to draw viewers to that show. I'd say she's succeeding.
If the GM in Tyler doesn't like her show, he's got the right to pull it. I doubt he will.
azumanga said:
Did I miss something? When has Pat Robertson begun funding a terrorist organization with the goal of wiping out western civilization.
What seperates Christians from Muslims is when some wacko commits a terrorist act in the name of Christianity, most Christians condemn it. As opposed to Muslims, who when the WTC was destroyed, celebrated in the streets. (Go back and view footage of the streets of Palestine, Iran, and Saudi Arabia on 9-11.)
But go ahead and slander Christianity. You'll give an account of your words someday.
Good points musicsweep.
You don't see Christians blowing up themselves to glorify God.
You don't see Jews blowing up themselves to glorify God.
You don't see ANY other religion other than ISLAM blowing themselves up to glorify their "God" ????
All terrorists are Muslims, so does that mean all Muslims are terrorists?
You don't see Christians blowing up themselves to glorify God.
You don't see Jews blowing up themselves to glorify God.
You don't see ANY other religion other than ISLAM blowing themselves up to glorify their "God" ????
All terrorists are Muslims, so does that mean all Muslims are terrorists?
musicsweep said:
He hasn't -- I'm just implying that Pat, in the past, has demonised other religions, including the Islamic faith, wholesale, often because of a small percentage who has killed in the name of their religion. And with comments like that Ariel Sharon deserved his stroke and that Hugo Chavez should be assassinated, Pat is the one who likes to play with fire with his rhetoric.
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azumanga said:
A quick comment, if I may.
I think the reason Pat Robertson said what he did about Sharon is the fact Sharon was willing to divide up the Jewish State with the Palestinians. If you go back and read what God said about the land of Israel, you'll see that He never intended it to be divided up. I'm reading "Jerusalem Countdown" by Pastor John Hagee. In the first section, he gives some good background information about Israel and how she came to be...tracing her formation and God's promises and declarations about Israel. May I recommend this to you? I think after reading it, at least the first section, you'll gain a better understanding of why the Sharon remark, inflammatory though it may sound, was made.
With regard to the Chavez comment, that had nothing to do with religion. It had everything to do with the fact this guy's a nut, and Robertson was saying he needed to be dealt with there before having to deal with him here. Kinda like dealing with the terrorists on their soil as opposed to on our soil.
Thanks for your time. Flame away...asbestos suit firmly in place.
"All terrorists are Muslims, so does that mean all Muslims are terrorists?"
Tim McVeigh and Ted Kazinski were Muslim?......
Tim McVeigh and Ted Kazinski were Muslim?......
Those who set off bombs in the name of Christ are liars, not Christians, and certainly not radical or extreme Christians. Jesus said, "Love your neighbor", so by definition, a radical or extreme Christian is one who goes above and beyond in practicing love. So basically, Rosie O'Donnell has no idea what she's talking about, but that doesn't stop her from spewing her hatred and intolerance. Which is really typical of haters and intolerant people.
Pat Robertson should know better - political assassinations were never part of Christian theology either.
Not all terrorists are Muslims; not all Muslims are terrorists. However, no terrorist is a Christian; I don't care what he calls himself.
But back to the original topic - I have no problem with the station manager organizing a boycott or a letter-writing campaign. That's what free speech is all about. He's free to do so; viewers are free to join in or ignore him. The network is free to act on their recommendations or ignore them also. But they'll never know what you or I think if we don't tell them. They program for viewers on the coast and have no inkling what people in "flyover country" care most deeply about - unless we make our views known.
As for the networks: they're too busy censoring Bible references from VeggieTales to worry about hate speech from a television show host.
Pat Robertson should know better - political assassinations were never part of Christian theology either.
Not all terrorists are Muslims; not all Muslims are terrorists. However, no terrorist is a Christian; I don't care what he calls himself.
But back to the original topic - I have no problem with the station manager organizing a boycott or a letter-writing campaign. That's what free speech is all about. He's free to do so; viewers are free to join in or ignore him. The network is free to act on their recommendations or ignore them also. But they'll never know what you or I think if we don't tell them. They program for viewers on the coast and have no inkling what people in "flyover country" care most deeply about - unless we make our views known.
As for the networks: they're too busy censoring Bible references from VeggieTales to worry about hate speech from a television show host.
To clear a few things up. First of all there were plenty of demonstrations in Islamic countries denouncing the terrorists of 9-11. They were on CNN, but those are not the ones people remember.
You can't compare Christian Crusades to today. Because in the centuries that have since past we now know better. Just like we don't burn witches. You might say Christianity was allowed to grow up and advance. Islam doesn't have that flex. Because it was written down, to a Muslim the words of the Koran are EXACTLY what God said. Christians can temper their beliefs by saying there was some room to interpet the Bible.
Any radical group is dangeroous, whether it be Christian, Islam or secular. The difference is religion often has governmental backing.
As for Rosie, I don't like her. She's completely taken over the view, and you can tell that blonde conservative lady hates her guts. LOL
The GM of the station has a right to pull the show or his opinion in editorial, but he was foolish for saying email. Companies pay NO ATTENTION to emails. They are too easy to send and to mass produce. If you want results you need to phone or better yet WRITE a PHYSICAL letter. Companies really pay attention to this.
Every company I have worked with when I analyze the data from consumer feedback gives no weight to emails.
You can't compare Christian Crusades to today. Because in the centuries that have since past we now know better. Just like we don't burn witches. You might say Christianity was allowed to grow up and advance. Islam doesn't have that flex. Because it was written down, to a Muslim the words of the Koran are EXACTLY what God said. Christians can temper their beliefs by saying there was some room to interpet the Bible.
Any radical group is dangeroous, whether it be Christian, Islam or secular. The difference is religion often has governmental backing.
As for Rosie, I don't like her. She's completely taken over the view, and you can tell that blonde conservative lady hates her guts. LOL
The GM of the station has a right to pull the show or his opinion in editorial, but he was foolish for saying email. Companies pay NO ATTENTION to emails. They are too easy to send and to mass produce. If you want results you need to phone or better yet WRITE a PHYSICAL letter. Companies really pay attention to this.
Every company I have worked with when I analyze the data from consumer feedback gives no weight to emails.
You're quite right about the effect of e-mails, but I'm not sure that letters and phone calls prove that much either. As we have seen, boycotts have worked in a limited number of cases, but so often the lunatic fringe has defused such efforts. In any event, the GM at KLTV noted in a follow-up editorial that the network did listen to the complaints about Rosie. What was not expressly stated was that there will be little if any effect. The View breeds controversy and with it comes a boost in ratings, of course.
In keeping with KLTV's professed dedication to family values, the GM spoke up when it became obvious that Rosie had hit a nerve. I'd say that he probably knew, as we do, that his protests would have no impact at the network. But he scored points with the locals; KLTV is the market leader in conservative East Texas, and they've been at it a long time. With that in mind, maybe the initial editorial was not the knee-jerk reaction it seemed to be.
In keeping with KLTV's professed dedication to family values, the GM spoke up when it became obvious that Rosie had hit a nerve. I'd say that he probably knew, as we do, that his protests would have no impact at the network. But he scored points with the locals; KLTV is the market leader in conservative East Texas, and they've been at it a long time. With that in mind, maybe the initial editorial was not the knee-jerk reaction it seemed to be.
Well said. The GM in doing the first editorial apparently was appealing to the East Texas body politic--not an uncommon move in broadcasting. The second installment of his comments literally said, "We're looking out for the public good, here, and your voice has been heard." What went unsaid was that having been heard doesn't equate to anything being done as a result.
If The View staff did in fact respond to protests from KLTV and others, could be it's more or less the same as a judge taking "judicial notice" of evidence submitted in court, whereby the fact introduced can't be actually refuted and the judge more or less says, "The court hears what you say, it is understood, but I'm not going to do anything with or about it."
So, The View's position may be "we did it, we heard you but we're going to keep on with what we're doing, your protestations aside."
If The View staff did in fact respond to protests from KLTV and others, could be it's more or less the same as a judge taking "judicial notice" of evidence submitted in court, whereby the fact introduced can't be actually refuted and the judge more or less says, "The court hears what you say, it is understood, but I'm not going to do anything with or about it."
So, The View's position may be "we did it, we heard you but we're going to keep on with what we're doing, your protestations aside."
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