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Uh-Oh, Another Progressive Talk Station Folds

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Gregg

It was a small player in Reno NV but say goodbye to KJFK 1230.

http://www.1230kjfk.com/news.asp

Last year, Progressive Talk stations folded in

Boston
Detroit
Seattle
Portland
Columbus

I feel badly because I like Thom Hartmann, Ed Schultz, Stephanie Miller, Alan Colmes, Bill Press and the other Progressive Talk hosts. Plus Miller and Press are losing their Current TV simulcasts when the cable station is taken over by Al Jazeera.
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Listeners are growing weary of the madness, and that includes all shows, Progressive and Conservative. Much of Talk Radio has turned trashy, much like the cheap, mindless garbage marketed by Jerry Springer.

Free-For-Alls are fun to watch on Pro Wrestling TV shows, but they're insulting to hear on Talk Radio. Righty & Lefty hosts share equal blame, not only for their own blather, but for losing control of the runaway venom spewed by callers, both partisan and adversary.
 
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Just curious....

I don't see any headlines saying...

Uh-Oh, Another Conservative Talk Station Folds
Uh-Oh, Another Sports Talk Station Folds
Uh-Oh, Another Oldies Station Folds
Uh-Oh, Another Alternative Station Folds

All such flips (and others) have occurred in the past week or two. Stations flip all the time and for other formats, nobody gloats. Very strange.
 
FredLeonard said:
Just curious....

I don't see any headlines saying...

Uh-Oh, Another Conservative Talk Station Folds
Uh-Oh, Another Sports Talk Station Folds
Uh-Oh, Another Oldies Station Folds
Uh-Oh, Another Alternative Station Folds

All such flips (and others) have occurred in the past week or two. Stations flip all the time and for other formats, nobody gloats. Very strange.
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Nothing to be curious about, the difference here is that the Prog talkers are folding and not being replaced. In fact, the last major Progressive talk station that signed on was in Columbus over a year ago, and they have shut down too. With the exception of Oldies, all of the others on your list generally get picked up by another company in the same market.
 
I'm sure if you did some research you could find stations of almost all formats that have changed formats recently. I'll even guess (I have no numbers to prove this) that more conservative talk stations have changed to another format recently than have progressive talk stations.
 
look at KGO and KSFO in SF Bay Area, still on the air but with half the ratings... may be one should say "another talk station folding"
 
It's true, the syndicated Conservative Talk format is also slipping. It's just that Progressive Talk has fewer outlets. So when you lose one, you've lost the format in a given city.

Even in the top 10 markets, only the four largest cities have Progressive Talk outlets...

1. NYC...WWRL
2. LA...KTLK
3. Chicago...WCPT-AM-FM
4. San Francisco...KNEW (but has Glenn Beck in mornings)
5. Dallas...none
6. Houston...none
7. Washington...none (There is WPWC in Dunfries, Northern Virginia, but I'm not sure if it's heard well in D.C.)
8. Philadelphia...none.
9. Atlanta...(Recently lost WGUN which tried Progressive Talk for less than a year)
10. Boston....(Last year lost WWZN, which became NBC Sports WUFC)
 
kc1ih said:
I'm sure if you did some research you could find stations of almost all formats that have changed formats recently. I'll even guess (I have no numbers to prove this) that more conservative talk stations have changed to another format recently than have progressive talk stations.
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That stands to reason since there are roughly 600 stations airing some form of commercial conservative talk programming vs around 30-35 commercial liberal talk stations so even if a fracture of the former flip formats, it would exceed what liberal talk has lost over the past year.
 
One could say Progressive Talk is having to focus sooner on android streaming and other technology than those shows that have 100-500+ stations who think they're sitting on easy street with terrestrial.

What you should look at is how many more stations will be chasing the same dollar bill in a windy parking lot before they fold.

This 64 year old station goes dark tomorrow as the potential new owners couldn't meet the FCC upgrades http://www.newsregister.com/blog?ar...ff-friday--1363636143--6929--open-source-blog
 
^^^ Letters to the Editor published in the Yamhill Valley Register (link, Reply #14) point to one common sentiment, the honoring of KLYC's commitment to Community. That's as high a compliment as one can offer a radio station.
 
Here is one way radio can take another stab at progressive talk: Copy MSNBC. Well, not all of it, but its soon-to-be somewhat revised weekday prime time schedule.
The hosts offer intelligent, nerdy, thoughtful talk. They take swings at the right. But they make their cases intelligently. No ranting.
Why is Ed Schultz really leaving the weekday MSNBC line-up to go to weekends? Because he doesn't fit. His style is based more on what you see and hear on Fox News and conservative talk radio.
Thom Hartman probably best embodies what progressive talk radio should be like. Stephanie Miller does not. She is trying to be John Stewart. For whatever reason, it doesn't work on the radio. Randy Rhodes: nope.
But, radio will take a simplistic look at this and say, "Oh, progressive talk just doesn't work on commercial radio." Perhaps they should try a different style first before coming to that conclusion. Most likely, that won't happen.
 
Thom Hartmann does do a TV show, "The Big Picture with Thom Harmann." It's carried on RT and Free Speech TV, and is streamed online.
 
for one when was Glenn Beck a progressive Talker. last i looked a Majority of his affiliates are conservative Talkers

Ed Schultz isnt moving to weekends because hes out of tune with the MSNBC Evening Line up. it was his choice because he wanted to get back to getting in touch with the people of the progressive/Liberal minded people to talk with them on his show.
 
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