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Uh Oh...New Logo for the Sound

The Sound appears to have quietly changed its logo recently. I'm not sure how recently, I just noticed it the other day on my smart phone radio app, then confirmed it today with a quick trip to their website. Although the old logo was rather non-descript, I kinda liked it and thought it fit the station. Perhaps this is because I am partial to blue on black look. Of course the new logo is also rather non-descript as well. Red lettering on a white background, with the phrase "Album Rock. More Variety". (the Truth-o-Meter notes a 50% accuracy rate for this new slogan).

What's more important than the new vs. old look is what the change itself represents. This appears to me to be the dreaded "consultant's recommended image change", wherein it is decided that even though the station is underperforming, the sound of the station shouldn't be tinkered with ("indeed, our research shows no burnout on Boston and Cars tracks at all!"), its just the messaging and the logo that needs to be "freshend up" to give new listeners an opportunity to "discover", and older listeners an opportunity to "rediscover" the station. Bringing in a fresh, but known voice like Rita Wilde, but having her announce the same cadre of AOR hit songs, fits right into the plan.

Of course this change is "dreaded" because it is the last stop of a current format before an executive decision gets made to ax it in favor of something else. Since the listening audience does not care about the logo, or who in fact is telling us about the Police song that just aired, the changes that were recommended will fail to move the needle a bit and the end result is almost pre-determined. What it does do is give the current jocks time to freshen up their resumes and air-checks, because they will soon be needing them. Most people consider one year to be more than fair warning. Consider yourselves warned.

The only way I see this working is if the Sound really goes after KLOS head to head, much like KLOS did against KMET back in the day, but that would require a real change in their method of operation, otherwise David E.'s math prevails - there are only so many classic rock shares to be divided among three stations in this market, and someone has to lose.

Speaking of KMET, it looks like the KMET page that the Sound had on their website is gone with the corresponding new webpage design. Bad Move Sound management! The only time anyone has talked to me about your station is to tell me how much they enjoyed the KMET day a few years back and how (for some unknown reason) the current station actually reminds them of KMET. And the only time they got a real bounce in the ratings was in the aftermath of the KMET day, when they went 100% classic rock. I suspect part of the reason the page is gone is because Jeff Gonzer has been gone from the station for awhile now and the KMET day was (for better or worse) his baby.
 
reading an awful lot into a logo change (which happened a week ago...with on-air imaging,too)...ya think?
 
The logo fits for a sports station but the old one was much better. Can't wait to see those new billboards around Los Angeles LOL
 
I think it was a good thing to change the logo. The old one seemed like it came out of a folder of "default" logo templates.

Channelflipper, Hiring KLOS's former PD and jock would be considered a move towards "going after KLOS head to head"
Also, PD Dave Beasing IS a consultant. For Jacobs Media.
 
Buckethead said:
I think it was a good thing to change the logo. The old one seemed like it came out of a folder of "default" logo templates.

Channelflipper, Hiring KLOS's former PD and jock would be considered a move towards "going after KLOS head to head"
Also, PD Dave Beasing IS a consultant. For Jacobs Media.

Rita was brought in to spin records at night. I have heard nothing that indicates she was brought in for her programming or management abilities. But that could definitely change, and if so, I would agree with your assessment.
 
Next thing you know...they'll silently slip rainbow bands around the entire thing!
 
ChannelFlipper said:
This appears to me to be the dreaded "consultant's recommended image change", wherein it is decided that even though the station is underperforming, the sound of the station shouldn't be tinkered with ("indeed, our research shows no burnout on Boston and Cars tracks at all!"), its just the messaging and the logo that needs to be "freshend up" to give new listeners an opportunity to "discover", and older listeners an opportunity to "rediscover" the station.

Why would a lack of music variety hurt The Sound any more than any other "classic rock" station in L.A.? They ALL suffer from lack of variety, it's just that some have more severe cases than others. Based on casual listening, I would judge The Sound to have marginally more variety than, say, KLOS. But let's face it, KLOS has greater name recognition and a more established history, so of course it would be no surprise if it crushed The Sound in ratings. I would say it's too early to judge whether The Sound's actual music has anything to do with its alleged weak performance. How do its ratings compare to 2009 when it became the AOR station it is today?
 
The Sound has bad ratings (went from a 2.1 to a 1.8 in one month) so a new logo will surely bring them back up. :p
 
ChannelFlipper said:
OC Radio Geek said:
The Sound has bad ratings (went from a 2.1 to a 1.8 in one month) so a new logo will surely bring them back up. :p

That's true. I love seeing a new logo when I listen to the radio.

my radio flat screen display is not working too well....
 
Channel Flipper is correct about radio stations with ratings problems doing things like changing the logo rather than attacking the true cause of their ratings slump.

So what are the differences between KLOS and KSWD, other than longevity? KLOS has a harder edge. Looking over www.yes.com it seems KLOS plays more Metallica, Black Sabbath, Guns n Roses, etc. KSWD is a bit more pop-leaning. I noticed one of KSWD's songs Saturday was The Monkees' "Stepping Stone." I also saw The Guess Who, Toto, Blondie and "Dark Star" by Crosby Stills & Nash. I doubt KLOS would play those artists. The only female artists I noticed in the hours I checked KLOS were Heart and Fleetwood Mac. KLOS is definately harder than KSWD. In most markets, that might give KSWD the advantage since they're going to get more female listeners if they lean more pop, without alienating men.

And of course, KLOS has Mark & Brian. Their ratings aren't what they once were, when NBC even gave them a Sunday evening show on the network. But I'm sure there are Classic Rock listeners who have been putting KLOS on their radios for decades, starting with Mark & Brian in the morning.

So are there enough shares in LA for two Classic Rock stations? LA supported KLOS and Arrow 93.1 for a few years, although LA was less Hispanic in the 80s and 90s than it is now, making it tougher for Classic Rock. What other formats are there for 100.3? They started out as an Adult Alternative staton but that didn't work. And other West Coast AAA stations (KFOG, KINK, KMTT, KPRI) aren't doing very well in a People Meter world. I guess if they can just bring the numbers up a little bit, Classic Rock KSWD is safe for now.


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Strange, they say Album Rock True Variety. But why I hear only the hit singles and less album tracks on The Sound?
 
The Sound did 100 Top Vinyl Album Sides Selected by the Sound D-Jays from A-Z over the Fourth of July weekend....It was different than the usually countdowns heard on other stations.....That and the Top Ten at ten during the week and triple play thursdays and sometime vinyl Wednesdays ......At least they are trying different stuff than the other guys.....I listen sometimes but then I'm all over the radio dial at different times of the work day......
 
Pronkie said:
The Sound did 100 Top Vinyl Album Sides Selected by the Sound D-Jays from A-Z over the Fourth of July weekend....It was different than the usually countdowns heard on other stations.....That and the Top Ten at ten during the week and triple play thursdays and sometime vinyl Wednesdays ......At least they are trying different stuff than the other guys.....I listen sometimes but then I'm all over the radio dial at different times of the work day......

That was a nice idea to do that. But I wanna hear more album tracks and less hit singles because they saying that they playing album rock.
 
The Sound is waiting for KLOS to go all Talk, staying with Mark & Brian in the mornings and then adding Sean Hannity and others throughout the day. Then, the Sound will be the only Classic Rocker in town and maybe climb up to a 2.5 share.
 
AM FM listener said:
The Sound is waiting for KLOS to go all Talk, staying with Mark & Brian in the mornings and then adding Sean Hannity and others throughout the day. Then, the Sound will be the only Classic Rocker in town and maybe climb up to a 2.5 share.

Well, the people at Bonneville are going to be waiting quite awhile as KLOS still brings in a nice amount of money.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibly some form of talk may come to 95.5, if not an outright AM/FM simulcast of KABC, but I think that is a few years away and depends on variables.

One of those variables is how soon KFI comes to FM, which it will. Maybe not this year or next, and maybe not on 92.3, but it's happening all over the country as news/talk comes to FM. Once it happens Citadel will see the results and they may plan their move... or perhaps KLOS will still be doing okay.

In our market Citadel, unlike Clear Channel, doesn't have several stations they could flip formats on and, for lack of a better term, "hedge their bets," which is why I predict Citadel will keep KLOS as is for a time so the money keeps coming.
 
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