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UNID 710 station 3/13/2010
- Thread starter crainbebo
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Regular here. Radio Rebelde. Can hear them right now in Boise on 710 Khz and 5025 Khz.
crainbebo said:
Rule out Mexico... nothing on 710 plays salsa, which has an enormously limited appeal in Mexico. WAQI plays no music except for bumpers. Only other possibility would be Caracas, but that is not widely heard except in the East. Caracas is 100 kw, and none of the multiple Cuban blockers on 710 is believed to be above 10 kw.
Crainbebo, could the UNID station be this?
KMIA-AM 710 kHz
Black Canyon City, Arizona
"La Consentida"
They don't have a website nor an online stream to verify ...):
http://radio-locator.com/info/KMIA-AM
KMIA-AM 710 kHz
Black Canyon City, Arizona
"La Consentida"
They don't have a website nor an online stream to verify ...):
http://radio-locator.com/info/KMIA-AM
stormy01 said:
Unless they were running their daytime pattern at night (not unusual nowadays), it wasn't KMIA. Their night pattern is almost 100% to the south, covering metro Phoenix with 3900 watts (Black Canyon City is about 40 miles north of downtown Phoenix). They have to protect Seattle, LA, Sacramento, Amarillo, and Denver on 710.
Besides, unless they've changed formats recently, they carry ESPN Deportes.
stormy01 said:
This has not been La Consentida for 5 years; it is Spanish language sports as ESPN Deportes.
I don't think you would hear salsa on any AM anywhere west of the Mississippi.
Darn! This is a stumper!
We need some means of posting short clips of audio to this site so others can help identify stations that are UNID!
Or, does someone know of a free site that allows posting of audio clips? (and then we can link to it)
It seems kinda silly to video capture to youtube just to get the audio...
We need some means of posting short clips of audio to this site so others can help identify stations that are UNID!
Or, does someone know of a free site that allows posting of audio clips? (and then we can link to it)
It seems kinda silly to video capture to youtube just to get the audio...
I've heard music from R Rebelde in the past, but have not copied both 710 and 5025. This is only the third station I've gotten on 710, KIRO and KFIA out of CA are the other two. I'm still not counting it as a "new logging" or "second farthest station I've ever logged" until I copy 5025 from 710.
-crainbebo
-crainbebo
stormy01 said:
Yes, I agree. Seems the admin doesn't have the "upload attachment" option activated (I run a forum using this same software). With a forum this size, I'm sure this would be abused and be a nightmare to moderate. I might suggest some of the free file sharing sites like http://www.mediafire.com or http://www.4shared.com For fun, I just created a mediafire account to see how it works, and uploaded my DX clips (including 710 Cuba, to get back on topic). Here's the link if anyone wants to check it out.
My guess...just a guess...is R. Rebelde.
They do play contemporary Cuban music mixed in with the talk and other non-music programs. They're also not unusual here in the Midwest. I hear it every day and every night when I'm at the place where we stay on the Gulf Coast on the AL/FL border. Under semi-local WNTM (Mobile) days....blowing out WNTM nights. (5025 also puts in a fine signal on that part of the coast day and night).
10kw, of course, would be quite a hop to Seattle. And then there's the matter of being heard under your local blowtorch.
Hmmm....
They do play contemporary Cuban music mixed in with the talk and other non-music programs. They're also not unusual here in the Midwest. I hear it every day and every night when I'm at the place where we stay on the Gulf Coast on the AL/FL border. Under semi-local WNTM (Mobile) days....blowing out WNTM nights. (5025 also puts in a fine signal on that part of the coast day and night).
10kw, of course, would be quite a hop to Seattle. And then there's the matter of being heard under your local blowtorch.
Hmmm....
Doubt it's only 10 kw. An article on Cuban radio a few years ago indicated they can combine amplifier modules and put potent signals out on almost any frequency. Just a little plumbing, re-direct the power grid for a few hours, dial up the frequency on the synthesizer, and they're killing KSL IN Salt Lake City.
boiseengineer said:
Pretty much what I was thinking. I haven't seen the article you're referring to, but I had heard more or less the same thing. IIRC correctly, about fifteen or so years ago the Cubans were playing havoc with a few Texas stations. And I also seem to remember KSL getting trashed.
boiseengineer said:
Our WAQI in Miami has done field strength readings... there have been, over the years, 3 or 4 stations on 710 in Cuba, usually carrying same network. One was meassured at about the level of one of the Czech 30 kw transmitters running at slightly reduced power to conserve the tubes. then that one cut back, with the belief that we have one or two 10 kw and then one or two in the 1 kw range. Since most of the transmitters are 60's era Czech stuff, using in many cases obsolete Svetlana tubes, they have been retrofitted and that often caused a power reduction. The Czech gear came in a 10, a 30, a 60, a 120 and a 300 kw. The one 300 kw in Cuba is dead, either replaced by a 120 or running very low power.
Remember, the 710's are all there to keep WAQI from making landfall in Cuba.
High power is not always needed to do long North-South paths. While March is a bit early, I can recall Fall and Spring incidents where WKYC (now WTAM) 1100 which was 20 miles from me was overridden by a 10 kw station from Venezuela or a 1kw Venezuelan overriding WOWO in Ft Wayne, not far from Cleveland, all at around 8 PM to 10 PM EsT. So with the right conditions, that diagonal path might make 10 kw seem like 50...
710 (it's the same programming that's on 5025) is putting 150 uV/m into Boise tonight a good a 50% of the time as measured with a Potomac 4100 FIM. WBAP (who's in the clear with California nulled) is doing about the same.
Maybe the people @ WAQI need to make a trip to the south tip of Florida and take some new measurements.
Maybe the people @ WAQI need to make a trip to the south tip of Florida and take some new measurements.
boiseengineer said:
WAQI is at the south tip of Florida (the Keys are not the south tip of the mainland, btw). And the local groundwave signal has not varied, although the flutter from the non-synchronized Rebeldes is more apparent than before when listening with a directional antenna from near the VOA Marathon site. This would indicate nothing more than the two Cuban 710's nearist that location have equal power now. Cuba is 800 miles wide, and not all the 710 signals can be heard there.
The whole purpose of the 710 stations is to block via unlistenable interference WAQI's anti-Castro programming. It does not take any more than about 10 kw at 4 locations to do that.
I recall once hearing AFRTs Ramey AFB, PR, on 780 equal to WBBM and perfectly readable... enough for a specific verification... in Northeast Ohio. Yet the AFRTS station was 50 watts into a 70 foot tower. Power is almost irrelvant during this kind of unusual north-south opening.
There used to be an AM on 710 up around Sacramento (Carmichael, I think). Have they gone dark, or is that a possibility?
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