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Univision blows up smooth jazz
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teximexi
Guest
> 101.7 is now the beat! Playing old school r&b from the 60's
> (motown)70's (donna summer etc. This format did extremely
> well in that city back sometime in the lates 90's. If it
> will effect everyone from KABG to Magic to Ed
Can you please post a sample hour?
> (motown)70's (donna summer etc. This format did extremely
> well in that city back sometime in the lates 90's. If it
> will effect everyone from KABG to Magic to Ed
Can you please post a sample hour?
E
Ed_Walker
Guest
Jammin' Oldies lives!!!
Good going Mr. Eduardo...I bet it does well.
Good going Mr. Eduardo...I bet it does well.
> Jammin' Oldies lives!!!
> Good going Mr. Eduardo...I bet it does well.
I agree it will probably do well. However, I have to wonder if anyone else will jump on the smooth jazz bandwagon. Although it seems to have a higher share of wobble than most stations, even in Albuquerque, there are enough poor performers in Albuquerque it seems odd no one else would jump on it. If I were AGM (which, thankfully, I'm not), I'd be tempted to do that with 106.7. From what I've heard, the Spanish language oldies on Radio Sol are virtually impossible to sell.
> Good going Mr. Eduardo...I bet it does well.
I agree it will probably do well. However, I have to wonder if anyone else will jump on the smooth jazz bandwagon. Although it seems to have a higher share of wobble than most stations, even in Albuquerque, there are enough poor performers in Albuquerque it seems odd no one else would jump on it. If I were AGM (which, thankfully, I'm not), I'd be tempted to do that with 106.7. From what I've heard, the Spanish language oldies on Radio Sol are virtually impossible to sell.
T
tazman
Guest
> > Jammin' Oldies lives!!!
> > Good going Mr. Eduardo...I bet it does well.
>
> I agree it will probably do well. However, I have to wonder
> if anyone else will jump on the smooth jazz bandwagon.
> Although it seems to have a higher share of wobble than most
> stations, even in Albuquerque, there are enough poor
> performers in Albuquerque it seems odd no one else would
> jump on it. If I were AGM (which, thankfully, I'm not), I'd
> be tempted to do that with 106.7. From what I've heard, the
> Spanish language oldies on Radio Sol are virtually
> impossible to sell.
>
Interesting move on Univision's part. I wonder if part of the reason for the format switch was sales. Smooth jazz types are loyal listeners..but it didn't seem that Horizon had the advertiser support from listening from time to time.
I'm sure the new "Beat" will also shore up the older KKSS listener base too.
AGM doing smooth jazz..now that's a scary thought.
A changing radio landscape in the Burque, I wonder what's next?
> > Good going Mr. Eduardo...I bet it does well.
>
> I agree it will probably do well. However, I have to wonder
> if anyone else will jump on the smooth jazz bandwagon.
> Although it seems to have a higher share of wobble than most
> stations, even in Albuquerque, there are enough poor
> performers in Albuquerque it seems odd no one else would
> jump on it. If I were AGM (which, thankfully, I'm not), I'd
> be tempted to do that with 106.7. From what I've heard, the
> Spanish language oldies on Radio Sol are virtually
> impossible to sell.
>
Interesting move on Univision's part. I wonder if part of the reason for the format switch was sales. Smooth jazz types are loyal listeners..but it didn't seem that Horizon had the advertiser support from listening from time to time.
I'm sure the new "Beat" will also shore up the older KKSS listener base too.
AGM doing smooth jazz..now that's a scary thought.
A changing radio landscape in the Burque, I wonder what's next?
> Interesting move on Univision's part. I wonder if part of
> the reason for the format switch was sales. Smooth jazz
> types are loyal listeners..but it didn't seem that Horizon
> had the advertiser support from listening from time to time.
I would suspect it had everything to do with the change. I noticed that, too, when I was visiting Albuquerque a couple months ago. There were very few commercials on the Horizon.
> I'm sure the new "Beat" will also shore up the older KKSS
> listener base too.
> AGM doing smooth jazz..now that's a scary thought.
AGM doing much of anything is a scary thought. However, I think smooth jazz would be a format that would do a lot better than Radio Sol, and it would be tougher to screw up than many (not to mention that they haven't screwed up KHFM, though I understand Citadel helps, or at least helped, them with the programming side of it). After all, the market has a couple of smooth jazz people looking for work, and AGM had a contract with Jones to provide smooth jazz for 94.7 in Santa Fe, at least until they flipped it less than a week ago. So, that might still be an option. I'm not a fan of satellite formats, but Jones smooth jazz is the best it gets. It's programmed by a competent programmer and delivered as effectively as a generic program can be.
> A changing radio landscape in the Burque, I wonder what's
> next?
You can bet this won't be the last of the changes. Albuquerque is the most volatile radio market in the nation, or at least that's what M Street has said about it several times.
> the reason for the format switch was sales. Smooth jazz
> types are loyal listeners..but it didn't seem that Horizon
> had the advertiser support from listening from time to time.
I would suspect it had everything to do with the change. I noticed that, too, when I was visiting Albuquerque a couple months ago. There were very few commercials on the Horizon.
> I'm sure the new "Beat" will also shore up the older KKSS
> listener base too.
> AGM doing smooth jazz..now that's a scary thought.
AGM doing much of anything is a scary thought. However, I think smooth jazz would be a format that would do a lot better than Radio Sol, and it would be tougher to screw up than many (not to mention that they haven't screwed up KHFM, though I understand Citadel helps, or at least helped, them with the programming side of it). After all, the market has a couple of smooth jazz people looking for work, and AGM had a contract with Jones to provide smooth jazz for 94.7 in Santa Fe, at least until they flipped it less than a week ago. So, that might still be an option. I'm not a fan of satellite formats, but Jones smooth jazz is the best it gets. It's programmed by a competent programmer and delivered as effectively as a generic program can be.
> A changing radio landscape in the Burque, I wonder what's
> next?
You can bet this won't be the last of the changes. Albuquerque is the most volatile radio market in the nation, or at least that's what M Street has said about it several times.
> > Interesting move on Univision's part. I wonder if part of
> > the reason for the format switch was sales. Smooth jazz
> > types are loyal listeners..but it didn't seem that Horizon
>
> > had the advertiser support from listening from time to
> time.
>
> I would suspect it had everything to do with the change. I
> noticed that, too, when I was visiting Albuquerque a couple
> months ago. There were very few commercials on the Horizon.
>
>
> > I'm sure the new "Beat" will also shore up the older KKSS
> > listener base too.
> > AGM doing smooth jazz..now that's a scary thought.
>
> AGM doing much of anything is a scary thought. However, I
> think smooth jazz would be a format that would do a lot
> better than Radio Sol, and it would be tougher to screw up
> than many (not to mention that they haven't screwed up KHFM,
> though I understand Citadel helps, or at least helped, them
> with the programming side of it). After all, the market has
> a couple of smooth jazz people looking for work, and AGM had
> a contract with Jones to provide smooth jazz for 94.7 in
> Santa Fe, at least until they flipped it less than a week
> ago. So, that might still be an option. I'm not a fan of
> satellite formats, but Jones smooth jazz is the best it
> gets. It's programmed by a competent programmer and
> delivered as effectively as a generic program can be.
>
> > A changing radio landscape in the Burque, I wonder what's
> > next?
>
> You can bet this won't be the last of the changes.
> Albuquerque is the most volatile radio market in the nation,
> or at least that's what M Street has said about it several
> times.
>
I listened to "The New Beat" for about 3 hours yesterday and I think the music is better than Hot 95.1. More variety and more uptempo, won't put you to sleep like Hot. Hot plays waaay to much Motown and too many ballads. If The Beat keeps playing more old school dance and get good jocks they very well could give Hot a run for their money. They have imaging saying something like "jamz from back in the day". I like the mix but I'd like to hear more late 80's dance thrown in. If they mix what theyre doing with Bobby Brown, Seduction, Expose, Cover Girls, Stevie B, Salt N Pepa, Tone Loc and one hit wonders like Deee lite, U krew, and Timex Social Club They would have a big edge. They also need imaging help. Another issue to look into is their processing is flat, Hot is louder on the dial if you flip back and forth between the two.
Not a bad idea to go after Hot though. Sometimes I listen to Hot and it sounds good, where they should be, and other times they sound like Big Oldies. This market will not support two Rhythmic Oldies stations, one will live and one will not make it.
> > the reason for the format switch was sales. Smooth jazz
> > types are loyal listeners..but it didn't seem that Horizon
>
> > had the advertiser support from listening from time to
> time.
>
> I would suspect it had everything to do with the change. I
> noticed that, too, when I was visiting Albuquerque a couple
> months ago. There were very few commercials on the Horizon.
>
>
> > I'm sure the new "Beat" will also shore up the older KKSS
> > listener base too.
> > AGM doing smooth jazz..now that's a scary thought.
>
> AGM doing much of anything is a scary thought. However, I
> think smooth jazz would be a format that would do a lot
> better than Radio Sol, and it would be tougher to screw up
> than many (not to mention that they haven't screwed up KHFM,
> though I understand Citadel helps, or at least helped, them
> with the programming side of it). After all, the market has
> a couple of smooth jazz people looking for work, and AGM had
> a contract with Jones to provide smooth jazz for 94.7 in
> Santa Fe, at least until they flipped it less than a week
> ago. So, that might still be an option. I'm not a fan of
> satellite formats, but Jones smooth jazz is the best it
> gets. It's programmed by a competent programmer and
> delivered as effectively as a generic program can be.
>
> > A changing radio landscape in the Burque, I wonder what's
> > next?
>
> You can bet this won't be the last of the changes.
> Albuquerque is the most volatile radio market in the nation,
> or at least that's what M Street has said about it several
> times.
>
I listened to "The New Beat" for about 3 hours yesterday and I think the music is better than Hot 95.1. More variety and more uptempo, won't put you to sleep like Hot. Hot plays waaay to much Motown and too many ballads. If The Beat keeps playing more old school dance and get good jocks they very well could give Hot a run for their money. They have imaging saying something like "jamz from back in the day". I like the mix but I'd like to hear more late 80's dance thrown in. If they mix what theyre doing with Bobby Brown, Seduction, Expose, Cover Girls, Stevie B, Salt N Pepa, Tone Loc and one hit wonders like Deee lite, U krew, and Timex Social Club They would have a big edge. They also need imaging help. Another issue to look into is their processing is flat, Hot is louder on the dial if you flip back and forth between the two.
Not a bad idea to go after Hot though. Sometimes I listen to Hot and it sounds good, where they should be, and other times they sound like Big Oldies. This market will not support two Rhythmic Oldies stations, one will live and one will not make it.
E
Ed_Walker
Guest
back in the day?
> They have imaging
> saying something like "jamz from back in the day".
This is off-topic, but I can't help myself. What exactly
is "the day"....whose day is it...and - if those two
questions were not answered right, what era are we talking
about?
So many people use that phrase "back in the day" - but they're
all talking about different times? And how would a radio
station play songs from "back in the day" without knowing what
day that was...
Just asking!
Eddy
> They have imaging
> saying something like "jamz from back in the day".
This is off-topic, but I can't help myself. What exactly
is "the day"....whose day is it...and - if those two
questions were not answered right, what era are we talking
about?
So many people use that phrase "back in the day" - but they're
all talking about different times? And how would a radio
station play songs from "back in the day" without knowing what
day that was...
Just asking!
Eddy
N
nmraydios
Guest
Re: back in the day?
To answer your question consult the "Back In The Day Calculator" at http://www.happyrobot.net/robotchow/backintheday.asp
They say this -
People are always talking about how good things were "back in the day". Recently I have noticed people abusing this phrase to describe a wide range of time, almost to the point that "back in the day" seems to be just a good day someone once had.
At happyrobotUSA, setting and obeying standards is important to us, so we have built an official and nationally sanctioned "back in the day" calculator.
Select the year you were born, press submit, and via computers on the "internet" we will tell you your own individual time frame for "back in the day".
To answer your question consult the "Back In The Day Calculator" at http://www.happyrobot.net/robotchow/backintheday.asp
They say this -
People are always talking about how good things were "back in the day". Recently I have noticed people abusing this phrase to describe a wide range of time, almost to the point that "back in the day" seems to be just a good day someone once had.
At happyrobotUSA, setting and obeying standards is important to us, so we have built an official and nationally sanctioned "back in the day" calculator.
Select the year you were born, press submit, and via computers on the "internet" we will tell you your own individual time frame for "back in the day".
Re: back in the day?
Smooth Jazz had a 3 share 12+ and they flip! I say whats the deal!
Must be low sales and as we know in radio if you can't sell good numbers and a 3.0 is good in Albuquerque you fire the air-staff not the sales staff.
Smooth Jazz had a 3 share 12+ and they flip! I say whats the deal!
Must be low sales and as we know in radio if you can't sell good numbers and a 3.0 is good in Albuquerque you fire the air-staff not the sales staff.
> > Interesting move on Univision's part. I wonder if part of
> > the reason for the format switch was sales. Smooth jazz
> > types are loyal listeners..but it didn't seem that Horizon
>
> > had the advertiser support from listening from time to
> time.
>
> I would suspect it had everything to do with the change. I
> noticed that, too, when I was visiting Albuquerque a couple
> months ago. There were very few commercials on the Horizon.
>
>
> > I'm sure the new "Beat" will also shore up the older KKSS
> > listener base too.
> > AGM doing smooth jazz..now that's a scary thought.
>
> AGM doing much of anything is a scary thought. However, I
> think smooth jazz would be a format that would do a lot
> better than Radio Sol, and it would be tougher to screw up
> than many (not to mention that they haven't screwed up KHFM,
> though I understand Citadel helps, or at least helped, them
> with the programming side of it). After all, the market has
> a couple of smooth jazz people looking for work, and AGM had
> a contract with Jones to provide smooth jazz for 94.7 in
> Santa Fe, at least until they flipped it less than a week
> ago. So, that might still be an option. I'm not a fan of
> satellite formats, but Jones smooth jazz is the best it
> gets. It's programmed by a competent programmer and
> delivered as effectively as a generic program can be.
did citadel actually do khfm other than sells i think agm did the programming and when that went to agm they had less than 2 days as not to let khfm miss
a thing i think they pulled that off quit well????
>
> > A changing radio landscape in the Burque, I wonder what's
> > next?
>
> You can bet this won't be the last of the changes.
> Albuquerque is the most volatile radio market in the nation,
> or at least that's what M Street has said about it several
> times.
>
> > the reason for the format switch was sales. Smooth jazz
> > types are loyal listeners..but it didn't seem that Horizon
>
> > had the advertiser support from listening from time to
> time.
>
> I would suspect it had everything to do with the change. I
> noticed that, too, when I was visiting Albuquerque a couple
> months ago. There were very few commercials on the Horizon.
>
>
> > I'm sure the new "Beat" will also shore up the older KKSS
> > listener base too.
> > AGM doing smooth jazz..now that's a scary thought.
>
> AGM doing much of anything is a scary thought. However, I
> think smooth jazz would be a format that would do a lot
> better than Radio Sol, and it would be tougher to screw up
> than many (not to mention that they haven't screwed up KHFM,
> though I understand Citadel helps, or at least helped, them
> with the programming side of it). After all, the market has
> a couple of smooth jazz people looking for work, and AGM had
> a contract with Jones to provide smooth jazz for 94.7 in
> Santa Fe, at least until they flipped it less than a week
> ago. So, that might still be an option. I'm not a fan of
> satellite formats, but Jones smooth jazz is the best it
> gets. It's programmed by a competent programmer and
> delivered as effectively as a generic program can be.
did citadel actually do khfm other than sells i think agm did the programming and when that went to agm they had less than 2 days as not to let khfm miss
a thing i think they pulled that off quit well????
>
> > A changing radio landscape in the Burque, I wonder what's
> > next?
>
> You can bet this won't be the last of the changes.
> Albuquerque is the most volatile radio market in the nation,
> or at least that's what M Street has said about it several
> times.
>
> did citadel actually do khfm other than sells i think agm
> did the programming and when that went to agm they had less
> than 2 days as not to let khfm miss
> a thing i think they pulled that off quit well????
I don't know for sure when the programming of KHFM went from Citadel to AGM or exactly who owns the rights to it, though, regardless, Citadel sold a successful product to AGM and allowed 96.3 to promote the move on-air. That was definitely helping AGM program KHFM; they let AGM have their successful product without having to try to rebuild from scratch. I do remember Citadel streaming KHFM 95.5 along with its other products, including the Buzzard, in early 2001 right after the KHFM product went to AGM's 95.5, and that usually indicates some control on the programming side. However, I did not see KHFM offered after Citadel signed a streaming agreement with Yahoo!Broadcast.
> did the programming and when that went to agm they had less
> than 2 days as not to let khfm miss
> a thing i think they pulled that off quit well????
I don't know for sure when the programming of KHFM went from Citadel to AGM or exactly who owns the rights to it, though, regardless, Citadel sold a successful product to AGM and allowed 96.3 to promote the move on-air. That was definitely helping AGM program KHFM; they let AGM have their successful product without having to try to rebuild from scratch. I do remember Citadel streaming KHFM 95.5 along with its other products, including the Buzzard, in early 2001 right after the KHFM product went to AGM's 95.5, and that usually indicates some control on the programming side. However, I did not see KHFM offered after Citadel signed a streaming agreement with Yahoo!Broadcast.
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