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URBAN AC/OR SMOOTH JAZZ (AS RAPKING STATED)

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MR. JAROME_CALVIN

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It is a shame to see that no companies such as (Greater Media, Entercom, Cumulus...) doesn't want to help Boston get either an Urban AC or Smooth Jazz Station. There are no (true) Urban AC nor Smooth Jazz Station here in Boston.
It is very sad what happened to W I L D 1090am and 97.7, as well as what happened to "Star 93.7" after the passiing of Vinnie Paruzzi

Yes, Oldies 103.3 does play a lot of Motown and some disco, but they play nothing like W I L D plays.

I myself work for a famous radio station here in Boston. I'm working on my own and on my free time sending out Programming Philosophies to radio companies asking them that they should help us to get an Urban AC or Smooth Jazz Station here in Boston. In my philosophy, I have some features included. For those who are about 30+, and who used to listen to W I L D way back in the day, do you all remember "The Cler"ence Update" or "Lee Bailey Radio Scope" I have those and simular features included in my programming philosophy.
My idea is to get an Smooth Jazz Station and put it on 1300am, make their signal 50,000 watts in the day and night. Put those features in there.
There is an 24/7 Smooth Jazz Radio Network that I listen to online. It is from Jones Radio Network in Denver, Co. They play the BEST Smooth Jazz like you can never hear in your whole life. You can listen to one of their affilates (Smoothjazzgreenbay.com, or WQJZ.com) the most famous radio personalities on there are Lynn Hughes (AKA Laurie Cobb) She is on weekdays 10am-3pm. They used to have this same network on 99.1 back around 1998-2002
Let us know what you think of this idea.
My other ideas includes a Two Hour Mix show "Groove Boutique" and "Chill with Mindi Abair" What do you all think? Your input?

How about, if not an Urban AC station, what about a Rhythm AC station (like Star 93.7) That is my second idea.

Thank you for your time here

Lauro Jr
 
Ok,
I work for WEEI here in Boston as a producer. MIKE 93.7 is also in our Building (same company)
My idea is either put a Smooth Jazz Station on 93.7 as well as 1300am. Have it on both because, in town, when listenning on a walkman, there are parts of Boston where you can not get 93.7, that's why I have this idea. Have it also on 1300am for people in and around Boston.


My second idea was to get a Rhythm AC staation and put it on 93.7. There is a live 24/7 Radio Network called "Movin" which is with Waitt Radio Network. They are a lot like "Star 93.7, W I L D 1090, and Touch 106.1 put together in all three. This is my second idea.

Please your input please?

Thank you for your time at this moment?

Lauro Jr
 
Smooth Jazz has been tried here, and it won't be back on standard FM as long as the stations are making good money with the formats that they are programming now. If a station became a ratings dog, and there was some sort of indication the public want, or would listen to "smooth jazz" then I'm sure it would get done.

WMJX runs smooth jazz on HD2, so it is there if the public wants to listen online for free, or drop the money for HD radios.

As for Urban AC, as long as 94.5 and 107.9 are able to show they attract the urban AC demographic, it would be hard to get anyone else to compete, having to siphon off listeners from 2 stations that have built big time brand loyalty.

Was the loss of WILD huge? I'm sure it was to the people who liked the format (I will admit we had it on at work sometimes and I liked the classic soul) but it was on a flea powered daytime stick. THat being said I had the utmost respect for Mr. Nash, and for Mrs. Nash as she ran the station for as long as she could. In the era of consolidation she was swimming against the tide, only a handful , well more like one or two owners have been able to make a go of stand alone stations in this market. She took the money, hoping Radio One would keep serving the people of the community. Radio One screwed everyone. See who said RapKing and I couldn't find common ground!

If you want Urban AC your choices in this market are internet streaming, XM, Sirius, or FunkyTown Boston, WMKK HD2 on 93.7

Radio is cyclical, smooth Jazz and Urban AC will be back at some point, I just don't see it anytime soon.

P.S. Hell will freeze over before WJDA 1300 gets a power increase.
 
LAUROJRM said:
My idea is to get an Smooth Jazz Station and put it on 1300am, make their signal 50,000 watts in the day and night. Put those features in there.
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I gather you are serious, which would mean that this station would have to be a pirate because there are so many technical problems with the idea that I can't even list the top 10% of them. The top one problem would be WJDA. And how long would you expect a 50-kW pirate station to remain on the air before the U.S. Marshalls arrived to take it off the air and, if necessary, forcibly render it inoperable?
 
>>the U.S. Marshalls

btw Howie Carr pointed out the other day that a certain lottery winner named James Bulger isn't
collecting his winnings; he's on the lam and is #2 on the FBI most wanted list after Osama.
Instead, checks that would have gone to "Whitey" Bulger are being sent to the U.S. Marshalls
Service...perhaps it can help fund the shutdown of some pirates? (Though the marshalls may be
too busy to do so)
 
Dan I read the post as he wanted to acquire WJDA and apply for a power increase.

Since the owner of WJDA died not too long after buying it, I assume at some point it will be up for sale.

But there is no way the FCC is going to allow them to do anything with that signal. If there was a way to do it it would have been done way before now. Just in New York State there are 4 AM's on that frequency. One in New Haven Ct, one in Plymouth NH,

First Adjacent 1310 WORC has a "distant" signal that comes in past Framingham on the day and night pattern pattern, and a fringe that comes into Boston and over the water on the 5KW day power/pattern

Plus if you look at where WJDA's stick is, it is literally in peoples back yards, no way you are getting that much radiation into a residential area without a million bucks for the lawyers.
( http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=42.25972,+-70.97667+(WJDA-AM)&om=1 )
 
ZRXOA 5248 said:
Dan I read the post as he wanted to acquire WJDA and apply for a power increase.

Since the owner of WJDA died not too long after buying it, I assume at some point it will be up for sale.
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Well, you'd be 100% wrong about Principle Broadcast Group (if that isn't quite the correct name, it's close). Otto Miller, the president of the company did indeed die suddenly shortly after Principle closed on WESX and WJDA, but Miller was in the ground only briefly when Principle named a new president and CEO--like Miller, an alumnus of Arthur Liu's Multicultural Radio Broadcasting (WLYN and WAZN locally, and many dozens more nationwide, including many stations in the New York and Los Angeles markets). Within weeks, Principle closed on the $14 million acquisition of WLIE 540 on Long Island, a HUGE AM signal (at least during daylight hours). Before Miller died, Principle had agreed to LMA WLIE but has now purchased it outright. Principle appears to be a well-financed outfit that understands the brokered-time business just as well as Multicultural does. All indications are that Principle is tightly focused and already quite successful. There is every reason to believe that Principle will be around for a long time to come and that WJDA and WESX are--and will continue to be--significant contributors to its bottom line.
 
Principle Broadcasting, etc.

Yes, The late Otto Miller did, indeed, once work for our parent company,
MRBI. When Principle took over WJDA and WESX, the first thing they did
was to poach a number of our customers. We took a major economic hit, but
have since recovered nicely, thank you. Some of the tactics that were used were,
at best, unethical, at worst illegal. I have my eye on them. If they pull this crap again,
I will have their head on a plate - that's a promise...

Smooth Jazz as a format - it has been done here - it didn't work. No legitimate
station wants to do something that has been proven not to work, despite what a
handful of people claim they would personally like to see, or would support.

Urban AC - if you intend for this to be an advertiser supported format - who do you
realistically expect those advertisers to be? Will they support the intended audience?
That is the only question to be asked here. If you personally think there is money to be
made, put up your own cash - buy a station or buy some time and prove it.
The same holds true for any other format. Talk is cheap...

Pirates, of any kind, deserve to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
They are a disgrace to every law-abiding American citizen. It is really easy to "serve"
a small "community", when you bear none of the expenses or responsibilities that a
legitimate station has to shoulder. Those who advocate illegal activities of any kind,
are irresponsible, and deserve whatever punishment they get...
 
Smooth Jazz as a format - it has been done here - it didn't work. No legitimate
station wants to do something that has been proven not to work, despite what a
handful of people claim they would personally like to see, or would support.
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Now I hate to disagree, however the format was indeed working, cataring to a loyal audience anyway. The only reason why Greater Media dumped it was because they signed Don Imus when WEEI dumped him and thought that they could make more money with him and building a talk format around him instead. Remember that WBOS almost got the ax back then instead.
 
SMOOTH JAZZ

You are free to disagree all you like. It might have worked for you,
it obviously did not work for Greater Media - and it is their station...
 
wlyngm, 100% agree on all points.

If you want a niche' format, find a station, spend the cash and have at it.
Don't wait around in hopes that CC and others will hand you the keys.

Have you ever had the responsiblity of making goal and paying all the bills?
Operative words for Greater Media and any other company, "make more money."

As for Pirate Radio? Put them in jail for a very long time!

In TV, it's very much the same thing.
"How come you don't bring back Super Train? EVERYONE would watch!" ;D
 
All that I am saying is that it wasn't that WZJZ wasn't working, it was because Greater Media decided that they could make even more money with Talk instead. There is a difference.
 
I don't see the difference.
Smooth Jazz wasn't working.

If a company is attracting a limited audience making X dollars doing Y format
and there is a obvious hole in the market for Z, you go with Z.
 
SMOOTH JAZZ

Even for jazz fans - Smooth Jazz was not working. The playlist was
all over the map: Dixieland, Chick Correa, fusion, Kenny G. -
even the jazz fans were not sure what to make of it...
Even they could not decide what jazz IS...
 
It Sound like.. some of you guys will sell off your Daughter, for the right price .
 
get a clue

It soundS like some of you guys have no clue about how business
(radio or any other...) actually works. It is so much more productive to whine about
things that don't go your own way...
 
Run a business like Wal-Mart , that the ticket to kill The American Family ( 1090,97.7,92.9 and 93.7 No Employee on the air, Your job is next to get cut ) .
 
For those of you who haven't ever owned or run a business, it's very much the same as your personal life, except more mouths to feed, many more bills to pay, and far more sleepless nights.

The budget: We all know how much money it takes to pay the bills every month.

How much are you bringing in every month?
Are you stashing aside "just in case" money?
Heating system dies, new roof, driveway, car.

Is it enough?
If not, what are your plans?
Trim the budget? Get a 2nd job? Look for a new job?

After all that, if you've made a success for yourself and family, enjoy! Risk and reward.
I know this is somewhat oversimplified, but it's pretty much how it works in business.
 
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