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Urban Pirate Radio Birmingham

Heard him at 90.7FM near downtown Birmingham between 6pm and 7pm 9/29/05. My search of that frequency turns up nothing in Birmingham, even LPFM. 90.7 is licensed in Anniston, Tuscaloosa, and Montgomery with smaller stations. Identified themselves as "Club 90.7" in Birmingham with a couple of club jocks playing some damn fine hip-hop tracks.

The signal didn't make it over Shades Mtn very well, and completely gave out in Hoover, stepped over by the Montgomery signal. Don't know how it does in any other direction than south, but they don't have much of a signal at all.

It's a Hip-Hop station with rotten sound but killer music. The "announcers" were obviously not professional. I heard no material in the music that would break the 7 deadly words rule, but it was assuredly not a pro station. Music stayed at a low volume, and the jock vox was so loud it was distorted. Still fun to listen to.

That being said, how do I report the reception? I've looked at the fcc.gov site, but I must be looking in the wrong place.
 
Re: Urban Pirate Radio Birmingham update

> Heard him at 90.7FM near downtown Birmingham between 6pm and
> 7pm 9/29/05. My search of that frequency turns up nothing in
> Birmingham, even LPFM. 90.7 is licensed in Anniston,
> Tuscaloosa, and Montgomery with smaller stations. Identified
> themselves as "Club 90.7" in Birmingham with a couple of
> club jocks playing some damn fine hip-hop tracks.
>
> The signal didn't make it over Shades Mtn very well, and
> completely gave out in Hoover, stepped over by the
> Montgomery signal. Don't know how it does in any other
> direction than south, but they don't have much of a signal
> at all.
>
> It's a Hip-Hop station with rotten sound but killer music.
> The "announcers" were obviously not professional. I heard no
> material in the music that would break the 7 deadly words
> rule, but it was assuredly not a pro station. Music stayed
> at a low volume, and the jock vox was so loud it was
> distorted. Still fun to listen to.
>
> That being said, how do I report the reception? I've looked
> at the fcc.gov site, but I must be looking in the wrong
> place.
>
Was still on the air at 9am, but off by 11am today. I'll check them out tonight.
 
Re: Urban Pirate Radio Birmingham update

Why do you want to report them? I know it's "illegal" but who is the victim of their "crime?" As long as they aren't being received in airport control towers and airplane cockpits, causing interference to area licensed broadcasters, or airing obscene material, I see no harm. They aren't hurting you or anyone else. Leave them alone and let them have fun. Enjoy the "killer music" they're playing. Maybe you could even get involved and help them out with "rotten sound" problem if you have any tech experience. Good grief...seems we have so many bigger problems we should worry about, especially at the federal level. Hunt down Osama bin Laden and make sure he is vaporized, the war in Iraq, the re-building of one of our major cities in the aftermath of Katrina to mention just a few. Such a harmless, albeit illegal endeavor, should fall well below the radar. But if it gets reported, it won't. Another voice, another outlet will be silenced. And more power for Clear Channel, Cox, Infinity etc etc etc. And no, I am not connected in any way with the station, I don't even live in the area or care for hip hop music. Just my two cents. Your mileage may vary. Cheers....


> > Heard him at 90.7FM near downtown Birmingham between 6pm
> and
> > 7pm 9/29/05. My search of that frequency turns up nothing
> in
> > Birmingham, even LPFM. 90.7 is licensed in Anniston,
> > Tuscaloosa, and Montgomery with smaller stations.
> Identified
> > themselves as "Club 90.7" in Birmingham with a couple of
> > club jocks playing some damn fine hip-hop tracks.
> >
> > The signal didn't make it over Shades Mtn very well, and
> > completely gave out in Hoover, stepped over by the
> > Montgomery signal. Don't know how it does in any other
> > direction than south, but they don't have much of a signal
>
> > at all.
> >
> > It's a Hip-Hop station with rotten sound but killer music.
>
> > The "announcers" were obviously not professional. I heard
> no
> > material in the music that would break the 7 deadly words
> > rule, but it was assuredly not a pro station. Music stayed
>
> > at a low volume, and the jock vox was so loud it was
> > distorted. Still fun to listen to.
> >
> > That being said, how do I report the reception? I've
> looked
> > at the fcc.gov site, but I must be looking in the wrong
> > place.
> >
> Was still on the air at 9am, but off by 11am today. I'll
> check them out tonight.
>
<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Urban Pirate Radio Birmingham update

If I owned a station...legally paid for it, went through all the FCC red tape and forms to get it and rely on the listeners of the local area to support the advertisers that pay to be on my station, I would for sure report them to the FCC. Just because you can break the rules, or that its cool to be on or operate a pirate station doesn't make it right. Arrest them, fine them, make an example.



> Why do you want to report them? I know it's "illegal" but
> who is the victim of their "crime?" As long as they aren't
> being received in airport control towers and airplane
> cockpits, causing interference to area licensed
> broadcasters, or airing obscene material, I see no harm.
> They aren't hurting you or anyone else. Leave them alone
> and let them have fun. Enjoy the "killer music" they're
> playing. Maybe you could even get involved and help them
> out with "rotten sound" problem if you have any tech
> experience. Good grief...seems we have so many bigger
> problems we should worry about, especially at the federal
> level. Hunt down Osama bin Laden and make sure he is
> vaporized, the war in Iraq, the re-building of one of our
> major cities in the aftermath of Katrina to mention just a
> few. Such a harmless, albeit illegal endeavor, should fall
> well below the radar. But if it gets reported, it won't.
> Another voice, another outlet will be silenced. And more
> power for Clear Channel, Cox, Infinity etc etc etc. And no,
> I am not connected in any way with the station, I don't even
> live in the area or care for hip hop music. Just my two
> cents. Your mileage may vary. Cheers....
>
>
> > > Heard him at 90.7FM near downtown Birmingham between 6pm
>
> > and
> > > 7pm 9/29/05. My search of that frequency turns up
> nothing
> > in
> > > Birmingham, even LPFM. 90.7 is licensed in Anniston,
> > > Tuscaloosa, and Montgomery with smaller stations.
> > Identified
> > > themselves as "Club 90.7" in Birmingham with a couple of
>
> > > club jocks playing some damn fine hip-hop tracks.
> > >
> > > The signal didn't make it over Shades Mtn very well, and
>
> > > completely gave out in Hoover, stepped over by the
> > > Montgomery signal. Don't know how it does in any other
> > > direction than south, but they don't have much of a
> signal
> >
> > > at all.
> > >
> > > It's a Hip-Hop station with rotten sound but killer
> music.
> >
> > > The "announcers" were obviously not professional. I
> heard
> > no
> > > material in the music that would break the 7 deadly
> words
> > > rule, but it was assuredly not a pro station. Music
> stayed
> >
> > > at a low volume, and the jock vox was so loud it was
> > > distorted. Still fun to listen to.
> > >
> > > That being said, how do I report the reception? I've
> > looked
> > > at the fcc.gov site, but I must be looking in the wrong
> > > place.
> > >
> > Was still on the air at 9am, but off by 11am today. I'll
> > check them out tonight.
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
Brian</P>
 
Re: Urban Pirate Radio Birmingham update

> Why do you want to report them? I know it's "illegal" but
> who is the victim of their "crime?" As long as they aren't
> being received in airport control towers and airplane
> cockpits, causing interference to area licensed
> broadcasters, or airing obscene material, I see no harm.
> They aren't hurting you or anyone else. Leave them alone
> and let them have fun. Enjoy the "killer music" they're
> playing. Maybe you could even get involved and help them
> out with "rotten sound" problem if you have any tech
> experience. Good grief...seems we have so many bigger
> problems we should worry about, especially at the federal
> level. Hunt down Osama bin Laden and make sure he is
> vaporized, the war in Iraq, the re-building of one of our
> major cities in the aftermath of Katrina to mention just a
> few. Such a harmless, albeit illegal endeavor, should fall
> well below the radar. But if it gets reported, it won't.
> Another voice, another outlet will be silenced. And more
> power for Clear Channel, Cox, Infinity etc etc etc. And no,
> I am not connected in any way with the station, I don't even
> live in the area or care for hip hop music. Just my two
> cents. Your mileage may vary. Cheers....

I agree with Big Al. Be glad there is a station that may not sound too great, but at least it playing something different than the usual crap that "Big Radio" always shove down the throats of whoever is listening. I started to refer all big radio companies as "Big Radio" because just like "Big Oil", they make our lives harder every day with progressive crappy playlists.

By the way, late last night I could pick up 99X out of Altanta, Georgia and I live in Guntersville, the worst place now to pick up any good station since WRAX moved. The majority of stations I pick up is country and "Praise the Lord" stations. Maybe 106.1 WTAK or The Source 101.1FM should flip to Alternative Rock. That would solve our lack of a real alternative or modern rock station in northern Alabama.
 
Re: Urban Pirate Radio Birmingham update

I've heard that same thought expressed by others over the years. I just don't subscribe to the mindset that says "I got mine, you keep out." Unlicensed broadcasters are, for the most part, on the air for the love of broadcasting. Of course there are a few on the air to make a political statement or deliver some other message. Whatever the reason, no unlicensed operator ever got rich from operating a station. They're not in it because of greed, the persuit of the almighty dollar. They're in it because they have a passion for the medium and/or the message they wish to deliver...something that is absent at most "Big Radio" stations today. For that, I applaud the unlicensed broadcasters and wish them success. We'll never see this thanks to the NAB; but I would like to see part-15 radio changed with the limit being 25 watts max (AM or FM), FM antenna height not more than 50 feet above ground, FCC type accepted equipment required and one rule: "thou shalt not cause interference, or thou shalt be prohibited from broadcasting." If I owned a cluster of 100kw FMs and 50kw AMs, I would still say this to the unlicensed broadcasters: Keep the signal clean, don't interefere with anything, don't air obscene material, have fun and carry on.



> If I owned a station...legally paid for it, went through all
> the FCC red tape and forms to get it and rely on the
> listeners of the local area to support the advertisers that
> pay to be on my station, I would for sure report them to the
> FCC. Just because you can break the rules, or that its cool
> to be on or operate a pirate station doesn't make it right.
> Arrest them, fine them, make an example.
>
>
>
> > Why do you want to report them? I know it's "illegal" but
>
> > who is the victim of their "crime?" As long as they
> aren't
> > being received in airport control towers and airplane
> > cockpits, causing interference to area licensed
> > broadcasters, or airing obscene material, I see no harm.
> > They aren't hurting you or anyone else. Leave them alone
> > and let them have fun. Enjoy the "killer music" they're
> > playing. Maybe you could even get involved and help them
> > out with "rotten sound" problem if you have any tech
> > experience. Good grief...seems we have so many bigger
> > problems we should worry about, especially at the federal
> > level. Hunt down Osama bin Laden and make sure he is
> > vaporized, the war in Iraq, the re-building of one of our
> > major cities in the aftermath of Katrina to mention just a
>
> > few. Such a harmless, albeit illegal endeavor, should
> fall
> > well below the radar. But if it gets reported, it won't.
>
> > Another voice, another outlet will be silenced. And more
> > power for Clear Channel, Cox, Infinity etc etc etc. And
> no,
> > I am not connected in any way with the station, I don't
> even
> > live in the area or care for hip hop music. Just my two
> > cents. Your mileage may vary. Cheers....
> >
> >
> > > > Heard him at 90.7FM near downtown Birmingham between
> 6pm
> >
> > > and
> > > > 7pm 9/29/05. My search of that frequency turns up
> > nothing
> > > in
> > > > Birmingham, even LPFM. 90.7 is licensed in Anniston,
> > > > Tuscaloosa, and Montgomery with smaller stations.
> > > Identified
> > > > themselves as "Club 90.7" in Birmingham with a couple
> of
> >
> > > > club jocks playing some damn fine hip-hop tracks.
> > > >
> > > > The signal didn't make it over Shades Mtn very well,
> and
> >
> > > > completely gave out in Hoover, stepped over by the
> > > > Montgomery signal. Don't know how it does in any other
>
> > > > direction than south, but they don't have much of a
> > signal
> > >
> > > > at all.
> > > >
> > > > It's a Hip-Hop station with rotten sound but killer
> > music.
> > >
> > > > The "announcers" were obviously not professional. I
> > heard
> > > no
> > > > material in the music that would break the 7 deadly
> > words
> > > > rule, but it was assuredly not a pro station. Music
> > stayed
> > >
> > > > at a low volume, and the jock vox was so loud it was
> > > > distorted. Still fun to listen to.
> > > >
> > > > That being said, how do I report the reception? I've
> > > looked
> > > > at the fcc.gov site, but I must be looking in the
> wrong
> > > > place.
> > > >
> > > Was still on the air at 9am, but off by 11am today. I'll
>
> > > check them out tonight.
> > >
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
Consolidated Corporate Radio S U C K S !!!!!!</P>
 
Re: Urban Pirate Radio Birmingham update

Your thinking like a broadcaster...think like an owner. I would love to do my own home broadcast, so would you. It would be fun and I could do what I want.
What we have to look at is in this case they are playing hip-hop on the pirate station. All this buzz gets built about the pirate station then stations like 95.7 (which is legally licensed and playing hip hop) take a hit in the ratings. We all know that agencies buy on ratings so this could directly affect the income of this station. That is wrong and is stealing.
You can't tell me that if you owned a cluster of stations, you invested multi millions into these stations and now you don't mind that someone is stealing from right under your nose?

> I've heard that same thought expressed by others over the
> years. I just don't subscribe to the mindset that says "I
> got mine, you keep out." Unlicensed broadcasters are, for
> the most part, on the air for the love of broadcasting. Of
> course there are a few on the air to make a political
> statement or deliver some other message. Whatever the
> reason, no unlicensed operator ever got rich from operating
> a station. They're not in it because of greed, the persuit
> of the almighty dollar. They're in it because they have a
> passion for the medium and/or the message they wish to
> deliver...something that is absent at most "Big Radio"
> stations today. For that, I applaud the unlicensed
> broadcasters and wish them success. We'll never see this
> thanks to the NAB; but I would like to see part-15 radio
> changed with the limit being 25 watts max (AM or FM), FM
> antenna height not more than 50 feet above ground, FCC type
> accepted equipment required and one rule: "thou shalt not
> cause interference, or thou shalt be prohibited from
> broadcasting." If I owned a cluster of 100kw FMs and 50kw
> AMs, I would still say this to the unlicensed broadcasters:
> Keep the signal clean, don't interefere with anything, don't
> air obscene material, have fun and carry on.
>
>
>
> > If I owned a station...legally paid for it, went through
> all
> > the FCC red tape and forms to get it and rely on the
> > listeners of the local area to support the advertisers
> that
> > pay to be on my station, I would for sure report them to
> the
> > FCC. Just because you can break the rules, or that its
> cool
> > to be on or operate a pirate station doesn't make it
> right.
> > Arrest them, fine them, make an example.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Why do you want to report them? I know it's "illegal"
> but
> >
> > > who is the victim of their "crime?" As long as they
> > aren't
> > > being received in airport control towers and airplane
> > > cockpits, causing interference to area licensed
> > > broadcasters, or airing obscene material, I see no harm.
>
> > > They aren't hurting you or anyone else. Leave them
> alone
> > > and let them have fun. Enjoy the "killer music" they're
> > > playing. Maybe you could even get involved and help
> them
> > > out with "rotten sound" problem if you have any tech
> > > experience. Good grief...seems we have so many bigger
> > > problems we should worry about, especially at the
> federal
> > > level. Hunt down Osama bin Laden and make sure he is
> > > vaporized, the war in Iraq, the re-building of one of
> our
> > > major cities in the aftermath of Katrina to mention just
> a
> >
> > > few. Such a harmless, albeit illegal endeavor, should
> > fall
> > > well below the radar. But if it gets reported, it
> won't.
> >
> > > Another voice, another outlet will be silenced. And
> more
> > > power for Clear Channel, Cox, Infinity etc etc etc. And
>
> > no,
> > > I am not connected in any way with the station, I don't
> > even
> > > live in the area or care for hip hop music. Just my two
>
> > > cents. Your mileage may vary. Cheers....
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Heard him at 90.7FM near downtown Birmingham between
>
> > 6pm
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > > 7pm 9/29/05. My search of that frequency turns up
> > > nothing
> > > > in
> > > > > Birmingham, even LPFM. 90.7 is licensed in Anniston,
>
> > > > > Tuscaloosa, and Montgomery with smaller stations.
> > > > Identified
> > > > > themselves as "Club 90.7" in Birmingham with a
> couple
> > of
> > >
> > > > > club jocks playing some damn fine hip-hop tracks.
> > > > >
> > > > > The signal didn't make it over Shades Mtn very well,
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > > completely gave out in Hoover, stepped over by the
> > > > > Montgomery signal. Don't know how it does in any
> other
> >
> > > > > direction than south, but they don't have much of a
> > > signal
> > > >
> > > > > at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's a Hip-Hop station with rotten sound but killer
> > > music.
> > > >
> > > > > The "announcers" were obviously not professional. I
> > > heard
> > > > no
> > > > > material in the music that would break the 7 deadly
> > > words
> > > > > rule, but it was assuredly not a pro station. Music
> > > stayed
> > > >
> > > > > at a low volume, and the jock vox was so loud it was
>
> > > > > distorted. Still fun to listen to.
> > > > >
> > > > > That being said, how do I report the reception? I've
>
> > > > looked
> > > > > at the fcc.gov site, but I must be looking in the
> > wrong
> > > > > place.
> > > > >
> > > > Was still on the air at 9am, but off by 11am today.
> I'll
> >
> > > > check them out tonight.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
Brian</P>
 
Re: Urban Pirate Radio Birmingham update

so that same opinion, you would hold that against legally licensed internet radio stations?

if you were throwing every dime you had into your fm station, only to get you thunder stolen away by a fully ascap/BMI licensed net radio station that is getting huge buzz around town, you'd pitch a fit and cry like a baby because someone else is getting more attention than you?




> Your thinking like a broadcaster...think like an owner. I
> would love to do my own home broadcast, so would you. It
> would be fun and I could do what I want.
> What we have to look at is in this case they are playing
> hip-hop on the pirate station. All this buzz gets built
> about the pirate station then stations like 95.7 (which is
> legally licensed and playing hip hop) take a hit in the
> ratings. We all know that agencies buy on ratings so this
> could directly affect the income of this station. That is
> wrong and is stealing.
> You can't tell me that if you owned a cluster of stations,
> you invested multi millions into these stations and now you
> don't mind that someone is stealing from right under your
> nose?
>
> > I've heard that same thought expressed by others over the
> > years. I just don't subscribe to the mindset that says "I
>
> > got mine, you keep out." Unlicensed broadcasters are, for
>
> > the most part, on the air for the love of broadcasting.
> Of
> > course there are a few on the air to make a political
> > statement or deliver some other message. Whatever the
> > reason, no unlicensed operator ever got rich from
> operating
> > a station. They're not in it because of greed, the
> persuit
> > of the almighty dollar. They're in it because they have a
>
> > passion for the medium and/or the message they wish to
> > deliver...something that is absent at most "Big Radio"
> > stations today. For that, I applaud the unlicensed
> > broadcasters and wish them success. We'll never see this
> > thanks to the NAB; but I would like to see part-15 radio
> > changed with the limit being 25 watts max (AM or FM), FM
> > antenna height not more than 50 feet above ground, FCC
> type
> > accepted equipment required and one rule: "thou shalt not
> > cause interference, or thou shalt be prohibited from
> > broadcasting." If I owned a cluster of 100kw FMs and 50kw
>
> > AMs, I would still say this to the unlicensed
> broadcasters:
> > Keep the signal clean, don't interefere with anything,
> don't
> > air obscene material, have fun and carry on.
> >
> >
> >
> > > If I owned a station...legally paid for it, went through
>
> > all
> > > the FCC red tape and forms to get it and rely on the
> > > listeners of the local area to support the advertisers
> > that
> > > pay to be on my station, I would for sure report them to
>
> > the
> > > FCC. Just because you can break the rules, or that its
> > cool
> > > to be on or operate a pirate station doesn't make it
> > right.
> > > Arrest them, fine them, make an example.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Why do you want to report them? I know it's "illegal"
>
> > but
> > >
> > > > who is the victim of their "crime?" As long as they
> > > aren't
> > > > being received in airport control towers and airplane
> > > > cockpits, causing interference to area licensed
> > > > broadcasters, or airing obscene material, I see no
> harm.
> >
> > > > They aren't hurting you or anyone else. Leave them
> > alone
> > > > and let them have fun. Enjoy the "killer music"
> they're
> > > > playing. Maybe you could even get involved and help
> > them
> > > > out with "rotten sound" problem if you have any tech
> > > > experience. Good grief...seems we have so many bigger
>
> > > > problems we should worry about, especially at the
> > federal
> > > > level. Hunt down Osama bin Laden and make sure he is
> > > > vaporized, the war in Iraq, the re-building of one of
> > our
> > > > major cities in the aftermath of Katrina to mention
> just
> > a
> > >
> > > > few. Such a harmless, albeit illegal endeavor, should
>
> > > fall
> > > > well below the radar. But if it gets reported, it
> > won't.
> > >
> > > > Another voice, another outlet will be silenced. And
> > more
> > > > power for Clear Channel, Cox, Infinity etc etc etc.
> And
> >
> > > no,
> > > > I am not connected in any way with the station, I
> don't
> > > even
> > > > live in the area or care for hip hop music. Just my
> two
> >
> > > > cents. Your mileage may vary. Cheers....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Heard him at 90.7FM near downtown Birmingham
> between
> >
> > > 6pm
> > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > > 7pm 9/29/05. My search of that frequency turns up
> > > > nothing
> > > > > in
> > > > > > Birmingham, even LPFM. 90.7 is licensed in
> Anniston,
> >
> > > > > > Tuscaloosa, and Montgomery with smaller stations.
> > > > > Identified
> > > > > > themselves as "Club 90.7" in Birmingham with a
> > couple
> > > of
> > > >
> > > > > > club jocks playing some damn fine hip-hop tracks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The signal didn't make it over Shades Mtn very
> well,
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > > completely gave out in Hoover, stepped over by the
>
> > > > > > Montgomery signal. Don't know how it does in any
> > other
> > >
> > > > > > direction than south, but they don't have much of
> a
> > > > signal
> > > > >
> > > > > > at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's a Hip-Hop station with rotten sound but
> killer
> > > > music.
> > > > >
> > > > > > The "announcers" were obviously not professional.
> I
> > > > heard
> > > > > no
> > > > > > material in the music that would break the 7
> deadly
> > > > words
> > > > > > rule, but it was assuredly not a pro station.
> Music
> > > > stayed
> > > > >
> > > > > > at a low volume, and the jock vox was so loud it
> was
> >
> > > > > > distorted. Still fun to listen to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That being said, how do I report the reception?
> I've
> >
> > > > > looked
> > > > > > at the fcc.gov site, but I must be looking in the
> > > wrong
> > > > > > place.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Was still on the air at 9am, but off by 11am today.
> > I'll
> > >
> > > > > check them out tonight.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Urban Pirate Radio Birmingham update

Unlicensed broadcasters are, for the most part,
on the air for the love of broadcasting.

Using that logic, I'll rob a bank for the love of money.

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> so that same opinion, you would hold that against legally
> licensed internet radio stations?
>
> if you were throwing every dime you had into your fm
> station, only to get you thunder stolen away by a fully
> ascap/BMI licensed net radio station that is getting huge
> buzz around town, you'd pitch a fit and cry like a baby
> because someone else is getting more attention than you?

now that's just stupid...
the key word they YOU used is "legally"...but how do you
license an internet station? oh...you DON'T. got it.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > so that same opinion, you would hold that against legally
> > licensed internet radio stations?
> >
> > if you were throwing every dime you had into your fm
> > station, only to get you thunder stolen away by a fully
> > ascap/BMI licensed net radio station that is getting huge
> > buzz around town, you'd pitch a fit and cry like a baby
> > because someone else is getting more attention than you?
>
> now that's just stupid...
> the key word they YOU used is "legally"...but how do you
> license an internet station? oh...you DON'T. got it.
>


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> Unlicensed broadcasters are, for the most part,
> on the air for the love of broadcasting.
>
> Using that logic, I'll rob a bank for the love of money.
>

Since the pirate broadcasters aren't going to a licensed radio tower and yanking the transmitter off to use for their own broadcasts, counterfeiting would be a better analogy . . .

But as long as they are respecting spacing and not broadcasting indecent or obscene material, leave them alone. This one, however, isn't using proper spacing . 90.3 and 91.1 are already in use by licensed stations, and I suspect one or both of them (most likely the flea-power Samford and Jeff State stations on 91.1) get stepped on by this pirate and could presumably complain.

92.5 or 92.7 would be the frequencies to put a pirate on in B'ham. WXJC and WTDR are the closest stations on those channels and they're strictly DX, and either can be done w/o adjacency issues.
 
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> Why do you want to report them? I know it's "illegal" but
> who is the victim of their "crime?" As long as they aren't
> being received in airport control towers and airplane
> cockpits, causing interference to area licensed
> broadcasters, or airing obscene material, I see no harm.
> They aren't hurting you or anyone else. Leave them alone
> and let them have fun. Enjoy the "killer music" they're
> playing. Maybe you could even get involved and help them
> out with "rotten sound" problem if you have any tech
> experience. Good grief...seems we have so many bigger
> problems we should worry about, especially at the federal
> level. Hunt down Osama bin Laden and make sure he is
> vaporized, the war in Iraq, the re-building of one of our
> major cities in the aftermath of Katrina to mention just a
> few. Such a harmless, albeit illegal endeavor, should fall
> well below the radar. But if it gets reported, it won't.
> Another voice, another outlet will be silenced. And more
> power for Clear Channel, Cox, Infinity etc etc etc. And no,
> I am not connected in any way with the station, I don't even
> live in the area or care for hip hop music. Just my two
> cents. Your mileage may vary. Cheers....

I agree somewhat...if I heard a pirate I'm not going to be all that up in arms about it unless 1)they interfered with a station I liked 2)interfered with a station I worked at or 3)they're airing "N[gger Free Radio":

http://bristolpress.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15229101&BRD=1643&PAG=461&dept_id=10486&rfi=6

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> Your thinking like a broadcaster...think like an owner. I
> would love to do my own home broadcast, so would you. It
> would be fun and I could do what I want.
> What we have to look at is in this case they are playing
> hip-hop on the pirate station. All this buzz gets built
> about the pirate station then stations like 95.7 (which is
> legally licensed and playing hip hop) take a hit in the
> ratings. We all know that agencies buy on ratings so this
> could directly affect the income of this station. That is
> wrong and is stealing.
> You can't tell me that if you owned a cluster of stations,
> you invested multi millions into these stations and now you
> don't mind that someone is stealing from right under your
> nose?
>

I get what you're saying, and can't wholesally disagree. However, if you (as a commerical broadcaster) somehow lost ratings and revenue to a pirate station, that says way more about the commercial outfit than it does the pirate one. <P ID="signature">______________
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> Your thinking like a broadcaster...

Thank you! I always have and I always will. :)

> What we have to look at is in this case they are playing
> hip-hop on the pirate station. All this buzz gets built
> about the pirate station then stations like 95.7 (which is
> legally licensed and playing hip hop) take a hit in the
> ratings. We all know that agencies buy on ratings so this
> could directly affect the income of this station. That is
> wrong and is stealing.
> You can't tell me that if you owned a cluster of stations,
> you invested multi millions into these stations and now you
> don't mind that someone is stealing from right under your
> nose?

If someone is running a little 20 watt "pirate" station and the legally licensed 100kw (or 50kw or even 3kw) station is taking a hit in the ratings because of it and all the "buzz" about it, believe me, the legal station has much bigger problems than the fact that a "pirate" has come on and is competing with them. Sounds to me like the "pirate" is more in touch with the target demo than the licensed station. Sounds to me like the "pirate" is giving the audience what it wants, the licensed broadcaster is not. Rather than go after some kid with a passion for what he's doing, look at what you can do better. Make your station so damn good that no one in your target demo would dare listen to anything else for fear of missing something! Think about this... Why would someone listen to a pirate broadcast with non-professional DJs, a very unpolished and unprofessional sound, a weak signal, distorted audio, an erratic broadcast schedule etc? What possible reason would anyone have for listening to that? Ohhhhh! Correct! It's the c o n t e n t! FM radio didn't catch on because it had better technical quality. FM caught on in the 70s when stations got with it and started putting programming on that connected with the audience. Cable TV, despite its superior quality to rabbit ears, didn't really catch on until the programming was there that people wanted. The same will be true for digital radio and TV. Content is what drives the choices made by the listeners (or viewers). I do understand where you are coming from and the points you make. We just look at it differently. I guess we'll have to agree to respectfully disagree on this. Cheers.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > Why do you want to report them? I know it's "illegal" but
>
> > who is the victim of their "crime?" As long as they
> aren't
> > being received in airport control towers and airplane
> > cockpits, causing interference to area licensed
> > broadcasters, or airing obscene material, I see no harm.
> > They aren't hurting you or anyone else. Leave them alone
> > and let them have fun. Enjoy the "killer music" they're
> > playing. Maybe you could even get involved and help them
> > out with "rotten sound" problem if you have any tech
> > experience. Good grief...seems we have so many bigger
> > problems we should worry about, especially at the federal
> > level. Hunt down Osama bin Laden and make sure he is
> > vaporized, the war in Iraq, the re-building of one of our
> > major cities in the aftermath of Katrina to mention just a
>
> > few. Such a harmless, albeit illegal endeavor, should
> fall
> > well below the radar. But if it gets reported, it won't.
>
> > Another voice, another outlet will be silenced. And more
> > power for Clear Channel, Cox, Infinity etc etc etc. And
> no,
> > I am not connected in any way with the station, I don't
> even
> > live in the area or care for hip hop music. Just my two
> > cents. Your mileage may vary. Cheers....
>
> I agree with Big Al. Be glad there is a station that may not
> sound too great, but at least it playing something different
> than the usual crap that "Big Radio" always shove down the
> throats of whoever is listening. I started to refer all big
> radio companies as "Big Radio" because just like "Big Oil",
> they make our lives harder every day with progressive crappy
> playlists.
>
> By the way, late last night I could pick up 99X out of
> Altanta, Georgia and I live in Guntersville, the worst place
> now to pick up any good station since WRAX moved. The
> majority of stations I pick up is country and "Praise the
> Lord" stations. Maybe 106.1 WTAK or The Source 101.1FM
> should flip to Alternative Rock. That would solve our lack
> of a real alternative or modern rock station in northern
> Alabama.
>

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> > Your thinking like a broadcaster...
>
> Thank you! I always have and I always will. :)
>
> > What we have to look at is in this case they are playing
> > hip-hop on the pirate station. All this buzz gets built
> > about the pirate station then stations like 95.7 (which is
>
> > legally licensed and playing hip hop) take a hit in the
> > ratings. We all know that agencies buy on ratings so this
>
> > could directly affect the income of this station. That is
>
> > wrong and is stealing.
> > You can't tell me that if you owned a cluster of stations,
>
> > you invested multi millions into these stations and now
> you
> > don't mind that someone is stealing from right under your
> > nose?
>
> If someone is running a little 20 watt "pirate" station and
> the legally licensed 100kw (or 50kw or even 3kw) station is
> taking a hit in the ratings because of it and all the "buzz"
> about it, believe me, the legal station has much bigger
> problems than the fact that a "pirate" has come on and is
> competing with them. Sounds to me like the "pirate" is more
> in touch with the target demo than the licensed station.
> Sounds to me like the "pirate" is giving the audience what
> it wants, the licensed broadcaster is not. Rather than go
> after some kid with a passion for what he's doing, look at
> what you can do better. Make your station so damn good that
> no one in your target demo would dare listen to anything
> else for fear of missing something! Think about this...
> Why would someone listen to a pirate broadcast with
> non-professional DJs, a very unpolished and unprofessional
> sound, a weak signal, distorted audio, an erratic broadcast
> schedule etc? What possible reason would anyone have for
> listening to that? Ohhhhh! Correct! It's the c o n t e n
> t! FM radio didn't catch on because it had better technical
> quality. FM caught on in the 70s when stations got with it
> and started putting programming on that connected with the
> audience. Cable TV, despite its superior quality to rabbit
> ears, didn't really catch on until the programming was there
> that people wanted. The same will be true for digital radio
> and TV. Content is what drives the choices made by the
> listeners (or viewers). I do understand where you are
> coming from and the points you make. We just look at it
> differently. I guess we'll have to agree to respectfully
> disagree on this. Cheers.
>

I totally agree. There is a lack of content when it comes to the current choice of hip hop or R&B in Birmingham. If 95.7 fears that the low power illegal outlet is going to hurt them, then they're in bigger trouble than they ever realized. Not only will competition hurt them, it may totally shut them down permanantly. <P ID="signature">______________
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> I totally agree. There is a lack of content when it comes
> to the current choice of hip hop or R&B in Birmingham. If
> 95.7 fears that the low power illegal outlet is going to
> hurt them, then they're in big trouble than they ever
> realized. Not only will competition hurt them, it may
> totally shut them down permanantly.
>

A small pirate operation wouldn't shut the #2 station in Birmingham down or even make it change format. However, I'd bet they have someone listening and taking notes.
 
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> > I totally agree. There is a lack of content when it comes
>
> > to the current choice of hip hop or R&B in Birmingham. If
>
> > 95.7 fears that the low power illegal outlet is going to
> > hurt them, then they're in big trouble than they ever
> > realized. Not only will competition hurt them, it may
> > totally shut them down permanantly.
> >
>
> A small pirate operation wouldn't shut the #2 station in
> Birmingham down or even make it change format. However, I'd
> bet they have someone listening and taking notes.
>

Oh, I didn't the pirate station, meant by actual competition on a legally licensed full-power frequency. Jamz would go in panic mode literally, because it has never faced competition on a fully audible signal in Birmingham. <P ID="signature">______________
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