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Utterly Disgusting Radio Dial

Huh? Really? It's statements like this that kill your credibility. The city of Atlanta is loaded with live & local DJs. Lots of local listener events where the DJs interact with listeners. Lots of ways the local DJs engaged with their listeners. Maybe not you or your friends. But lots of other people. Otherwise, why would advertisers buy time on those stations? Why would companies sponsor all those listener appreciation events? Is it all one big charade? Really? More likely you're upset because radio doesn't play your favorite songs, so you invent a bunch of fiction that the whole city feels the same way. I understand that you miss the way things used to be. Lots of people your age feel the same way. That's not a radio problem.

As a friend of mine says, "you know how right you are, by the number of insults you receive"

Live local DJs in Atlanta?

Maybe morning drive- maybe.

I can tell you FOR A FACT that ClearChannel Cluster is 100 percent voice tracked after 7PM and all weekend. Every SINGLE station. 2 board ops for the entire cluster.

I know this because I was there about a month ago.

So where is this live and local radio? In your and my dreams, that's where. It's G O N E.
 
So where is this live and local radio? In your and my dreams, that's where. It's G O N E.

So what happens between 5 AM and 7 PM doesn't matter? Is that what you're telling me? Obviously a "glass-half-empty" person.

You said: "Gone are the local DJ's who interacted with the listeners and made radio fun." But even you admit they're there right now. They're making radio fun for those who listen. You don't, so they're gone. But that doesn't mean they're not there.
 
Try calling into any studio during the day to ask the DJ the name of a song you just heard that you hadn't heard before. Good luck getting the phone answered, and if it is answered, good luck finding a DJ who knows the name of the song.

Granted, the chances of them playing a song you never heard before are also slim and none, but I was making a rhetorical point, not providing a literal example.
 
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Try calling into any studio during the day to ask the DJ the name of a song you just heard that you hadn't heard before.

Just because someone doesn't answer a phone doesn't mean he's not there. Personally I never answer my phone unless I recognize the incoming number.
 
Try calling into any studio during the day to ask the DJ the name of a song you just heard that you hadn't heard before. Good luck getting the phone answered, and if it is answered, good luck finding a DJ who knows the name of the song.

Maybe this is a discussion of how our society, our culture has changed... not a concussion of how radio has changed.

I remember when you could pick up the phone a call the hardware store or other retail outlet and get a question answered about a product, get some how-to-do-it advice. Same was true of automotive information. I grew up in a farm family where we did almost ALL of our own maintenance, repair and at least light overhauls. (Back in the era of 'muscle cars' I could do a pretty rapid and quality rebuild of a GM 4-barrel carburetor! It was a time when if you got in just a little bit over your head, a quick call to the parts department of your dealership or your neighborhood parts store could result in a helpful, delightful exchange of information. Before driving to the dry goods store, you could call and have an answer to the question: "Do you have in stock my favorite brand of underwear in my size?" and the phone would be answered and the information obtained.

There are very few places where you can make a phone call today that will be answered by a human being who will make you happy that you made the call. Why do we expect radio to be the exception to that rule?
 
P.S. If someone answered the phone, more than likely it would be Rachel calling from Card Holder Services to deliver your SECOND and FINAL notice.
 
There are very few places where you can make a phone call today that will be answered by a human being who will make you happy that you made the call. Why do we expect radio to be the exception to that rule?

Because that's the sort of interaction with the audience that makes local, well, local. It's just one more example of how not local the voices heard on local radio stations are. I don't give a damn where the DJ is sitting, if he never interacts with the local audience, he might as well be a recorded voice from someplace far away.

I also notice that TheBigA found this statement beyond his ability to comprehend, "I was making a rhetorical point, not providing a literal example."
 
I also notice that TheBigA found this statement beyond his ability to comprehend, "I was making a rhetorical point, not providing a literal example."

And then you come back and defend it as a literal example. So which is it?

DJs interact with the local audience in many ways besides answering the phone. For example, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Typically a DJ is posting on all three during his/her show. DJs receive texts and emails. But as far as your "rhetorical" example, if a listener wants to find out what song was just played, most stations list their playlist on their website, so you can easily check there. I know none of these methods of interaction existed back in the day, but this is how people interact today.
 
I guess we could pursue this small nuance of this thread as almost a new thread because I think it addresses THE ISSUE which not only does radio have to come to grips with, but so does politics.... and education... and the economy.

What is "real interaction"?

Does 'real interaction' only take place when human being sit down in a room, face to face, and have a discussion? If we expand the venue with two-way teleconferencing so that live human beings sitting in may 8 or 12 rooms around the nation or around the world have live interaction where we can hear the tone of voice and see the facial expressions, do we still have 'real interaction'?

If I pick up the phone and call my sister three states away and we talk for 40 minutes, is that 'real interaction'? After all, we can still hear the inflection and tone of voice, and from our many years of being in each others presence, we can imagine the facial expressions.

If I pick up the phone and call a local politician that I have never met face to face, and we have a conversation about a local political issue, and we have a free, wide ranging discussion of the issue, is the 'real interaction'? Now, I have followed the politician through news reports through the years... but he/ she have never heard of me or had opportunity to read about me, is it possible for us to experience 'real interaction' during such a phone call? (Isn't that a parallel of calling the radio announcer I have heard on the radio, but he/she has never heard of me?)

What if instead of calling the politician, we engaged in an e-mail exchange, or a series of Facebook posts? Would that be 'real interaction'?

If the politician is older than 60 and I am older than 60, does that result in different answers to any of these questions.... than if the politician is 34, and I am 24?

I look back to the days when I started in radio. As some one under 20 years of age at the time, I didn't have a whole lot to say that was profound. I didn't have a lot of "social interaction experience" that allowed me to be an overflowing reservoir of personality and tales to share. But we had one thing going for us. We had a stock of records, a Billboard magazine with some music industry insights, and maybe a few other industry publications. If you lived in a city (which I didn't) maybe you had actually been to some concerts by the artists you were playing. We didn't give the name of the artist and the title of the song because the whole world was waiting with baited breath to hear our dear sweet voice roll off such information.... we were cooped up in a studio somewhere in a pasture or maybe a back street in town and title and artist was the only damned thing we knew that the audience could possibly be interested it.... other than the time and the temperature.

And, fortunately for us, our audience was fresh and naive, and had no idea what they really wanted to hear us say. They assumed because we had the job, we must know what we were doing and should be doing. They ate it up. Isn't he great!

Today's modern radio receivers tend to have this little "ticker tape display" giving the name of the song and the artist going across the dial of trhe radio. Who needs to hear... or phone call the announcer. The lowly entry level announcer has no idea what he/she should be talking about... the youthful audience has no idea what they should be hearing... so a lot of radio today doesn't talk TO the audience, and a lot of the audience is happy with that.

But scattered among the human race are a few gifted individuals who have the charisma to be elected to public office, a few gifted individuals who have the smarts to run a corporation, and a few gifted individuals who have the charm to sound good talking on the radio. In the absence of charisma, smarts and charm, today's radio stations seem to know when and how 'real interaction' can actually happen and when it can't and won't.
 
If the politician is older than 60 and I am older than 60, does that result in different answers to any of these questions.... than if the politician is 34, and I am 24?

Bingo! I think you've got it.

A lot of this thread, and the continuing discussion of Atlanta radio, is coming from male posters of a certain age who are upset that their format doesn't exist on the dial. Then you have the associated posts from people who have certain expectations of radio based on how things used to be. But yes, it's cultural and social, based largely on age and experience, and a resulting antagonism when those things change. Thank you Dr. Goat.
 
As many have noted before, the problem with Atlanta has more to do with the population than the radio stations. When almost half of the metro audience is Black or Hispanic, it eats up a big chunk of the potential audience. That shift in population affects a whole lot of things besides radio. If you don't like Atlanta radio, there are probably a bunch of other similar things you encounter every day.

Wait, so the hispanic audience has grown that much there to be recognized and remembered in discussions about demographics? Are there enough hispanics to support a rhythmic format? Maybe the weakest rated major urban station could & should benefit by shifting towards the rhythmic route...
 
Incidentally, as a male poster of a certain age, when I first moved to Atlanta, I used to really enjoy 92.9 FM. It was, as I recall, playing a AAA format, one which I had never encountered before. I remember really enjoying their morning show even though it was rather light in amount of music played. When they did play music during the regular part of the day, I really enjoyed hearing the new songs by artists I wasn't at all familiar with, since the city I moved from had no AAA station on the air at all. I'd make a point of listening to Mara Davis at lunchtime. Her show was always entertaining, even if she often had more spoken word content than music.

I tried to give "The River" a chance, but their playlist was just way too limited. It got to be too predictable too quickly.
 
Try calling into any studio during the day to ask the DJ the name of a song you just heard that you hadn't heard before. Good luck getting the phone answered, and if it is answered, good luck finding a DJ who knows the name of the song.

Granted, the chances of them playing a song you never heard before are also slim and none, but I was making a rhetorical point, not providing a literal example.

Sometimes you just cannot be an octopus and answer all of the phone calls. It depends on what needs to be done.
 
I have 6 presets in my auto.....often they are all garbage. The SCAN button is black with white "SCAN" on it. I have hit that button so many times the the black button has worn and is half white and only the letters SC are now visable.

That's how bad radio is here.
 
I have 6 presets in my auto.....often they are all garbage. The SCAN button is black with white "SCAN" on it. I have hit that button so many times the the black button has worn and is half white and only the letters SC are now visable.

That's how bad radio is here.

It's not just Atlanta radio, it's about the same in every major U.S. city.
Thanks to the 1996 Telcom Act.
 
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