V 102-5 FM

[yorkie9]

I'm just telling the truth about the business end of this from a GM's eyes, not from some jock, or tech persons eyes!

The truth is that Vol State teaches radio in the same manner Western Kentucky did 15 years ago and multiple other schools do today. Imagine majoring in any topic and hearing gloom and doom on day 1 - that's completely unrealistic. Every major - every job - every career path has the same risks. Few of us are doing what we thought we would be doing on graduation day.

What is happening in radio is what is happening in retail and every other business. There are 4,000 more radio stations today than there were 10 years ago. The market can't support it! Look at Gallatin - is there a need for Home Depot and Lowes and two more 8 miles up the road in Hendersonville? Oversaturation. Banks on every corner. How long until any bubble bursts?

Today's radio is not the radio we grew up with (thank you FCC). But the radio we grew up with is not the one our parents grew up with. Radio has a stronger foothold than newspapers but even newspapers will adapt. XM and Sirius are cool but 98% of the population is not ready to pay for radio. Internet radio in a car? - maybe when dataplans are free and cover the entire country.

I agree with a lot of what you say, Scott. I just can't believe it's all gloom and doom. I know it's hard but what isn't?

 

[jetfli]

Radio has a stronger foothold than newspapers but even newspapers will adapt.

It's news delivery that will adapt. Newspapers, i.e., the publications comprised of news and features published on newsprint, will come close to dying out in my lifetime. The content will live on, but the method of delivery will die.

Radio, on the other hand, will continue to exist. The content as we know it may die, as it has before, but the method of delivery will survive.

 

[yorkie9]

Radio has a stronger foothold than newspapers but even newspapers will adapt.

It's news delivery that will adapt. Newspapers, i.e., the publications comprised of news and features published on newsprint, will come close to dying out in my lifetime. The content will live on, but the method of delivery will die.

Radio, on the other hand, will continue to exist. The content as we know it may die, as it has before, but the method of delivery will survive.

I'm a tad more optimistic on newspapers. Radio was going to kill them, then television. Big city generic papers (Like the Tennessean) will choke and may not prevail in their current form- especially when they do nothing more than print wire service stories and dumb down all original content. Small town newspapers where you can clip out your kid being on the honor roll and your neighbors having an anniversary will live on. The printed word is alive and well and the internet is bringing up a generation of readers who will not be solely addicted to getting their news and entertainment on a computer screen.

 

[opsmngr]

Actually you did start it right here for everyone to see. I would think as a GM you'd confirm your rumor before making a hasty post. What I meant by you thinking your product was better (even though it's not yours) is do you really believe people would rather listen to an AM signal outside of Nashville over FM?

I'm not trying to start anything so please don't yell again.

I DIDN'T START THE RUMOR! Bill Buntin told me this. Pat Julian (deltas69) will tell you Bill picks up all kinds of rumors. None of us who hear them don't know if there is any proof or documentation on things we hear. That is why I put out a "disclaimer" saying it was "unconfirmed" which means I have no real proof at the time Buntin told me that. CAN'T YOU READ OR ARE YOU OUT TO START SOME TROUBLE?

Now your second statement, yes, I think our ABC/Citadel Programming is better than what is on VNS. Now remember, WVNS doesn't have that good of a signal into Gallatin and Northern Sumner County. And yes damn it, I'm being bold about it.

 

[scottwmro]

"The reason why the station was probably on satellite was because of contract reasons. Jones is one of the worst satellite networks to deal with, and the talent they hire out of the Denver Market is terrible. In addition, the network, under contract, requires you to run thier inventory (spots) daily. They may be live now in all dayparts, but there is a chance that Jones still has them under contract to run the network inventory and fill out a weekly/monthly affidavit. I've delt with Jones, and I hate everything about thier cheap, genric operation."

There is much you don't know about the situation at V 102.5, Scott, so allow me to enlighten you on some of it. All of what I'm going to tell you comes from an inside source. The station ran Jones satellite willingly. For the past year or so, they have been consulted by Jones' Seattle operation which were brought in to the situation to help the station reconstruct its programming and image in the market. I'm not sure which of the Seattle consultants is working with V since my source didn't specify which one it was. The source did tell me that it was actually their consultant in tandem with Dean who came up with the plan that it would be best for the station to come off satellite in order to be more consistent with what was being programmed (and consulted) between 6AM and 8PM. So you're likely to continue to have Jones inventory running on V 102.5 because that is what is paying for the consulting services and has since that particular arrangement was made. The idea all along has been to do what is best for the radio station and its success (my source's statement-not mine). I have no dispute with your other comments, Scott, but I felt it was important for you to know that not the entire Jones operation is as "inept" as you make them out to be.

You have totally misunderstood what I'm talking about. How WVNS got into the deal with Jones is irrelevant. That's in the past. Getting out of the contract is what I'm referring to and that is what I'm speaking of. Jones screwed me over back in 1995, and they wanted to move thier "Good Time Oldies" format that I had a contract at the time "barterd" with them, and move the format to the Smyrna Station, AM 710, which was not owned by Moody Bible College back then. The guy that owned AM 710 back then (it's calls were WZRS, and owned by Mike Edie) was the one that called Jones and talked them into pulling the plug on us and move the format to thier station.

I had signed a 4 year contract with Jones in 1994. They wanted to make me run their spots reguarless if I was airing any Jones programming or not, until the end of the termination date of the contract. I threaten to take Jones to Tennessee State Court if they did not terminate that contract right them. That's when I went with Westwood One's "Oldies Channel Format". I was with them and that format from 1995 to 2006. I was pleased with Westwood's Jocks and the music flow.

 

[scottwmro]

Actually you did start it right here for everyone to see. I would think as a GM you'd confirm your rumor before making a hasty post. What I meant by you thinking your product was better (even though it's not yours) is do you really believe people would rather listen to an AM signal outside of Nashville over FM?

I'm not trying to start anything so please don't yell again.

I DIDN'T START THE RUMOR! Bill Buntin told me this. Pat Julian (deltas69) will tell you Bill picks up all kinds of rumors. None of us who hear them don't know if there is any proof or documentation on things we hear. That is why I put out a "disclaimer" saying it was "unconfirmed" which means I have no real proof at the time Buntin told me that. CAN'T YOU READ OR ARE YOU OUT TO START SOME TROUBLE?

Now your second statement, yes, I think our ABC/Citadel Programming is better than what is on VNS. Now remember, WVNS doesn't have that good of a signal into Gallatin and Northern Sumner County. And yes damn it, I'm being bold about it.

Mr. Opsmgr,

Mr. Bill Buntin & Mr. Pat Julian would NOT start rumors like that. The reason I came to this board and ASKED about it was to confirm the rumor. I usually do that when I hear something as big of news as that. But you know, whomever started the rumor was just getting somthing stirred up.....who cares! Don't you have anything better to do than to point fingers at people. What a Operations Manger you are!

 

[opsmngr]

Scott why are you yelling on some lame board? who cares right? surely you've learned by now Buntin doesn't always tell the truth.

now relax and enjoy the weekend.

ops

 

[deltas69]

no one tells me anything..why would they ? i'm just a lone half sane voice crying in the oldies wilderness.. :'(